Asus VS228NE - Worst screen ever!!!

r9xchaos

Cathy's Screen died on powersaving error... and we had to buy a new one...

we installed it and it and its so bad i need to warn anyone...especially for spacegames this screen is a NO GO.


the only area where it shows almost "black" is at the top... wich is like 10% of the screen area... the rest is some milky grey... i made a picture of it and a picture of the screen i use so you see what i mean:


Link to image

as you can see on my BENQ the image is black on all areas .. on cathy's screen there is almost no black...

spacegames are unplayable like that.. what you say?


P.S. sorry for the bad quality of the photos but my cellphone is real as making them
But even on the bad quality pics you can see it^^

hypl

Interesting. I use an ASUS VS247H-P and haven't had much problems other than 1 tiny dead pixel that's barely noticeable. Although this further convinces me that I won't purchase any ASUS screens for the foreseeable future.

r9xchaos

hypl wrote: »

Interesting. I use an ASUS VS247H-P and haven't had much problems other than 1 tiny dead pixel that's barely noticeable. Although this further convinces me that I won't purchase any ASUS screens for the foreseeable future.

I had an older model of Asus and it was nice, ive no clue why this model does have that issue

almost all reviewers said " fantastic color" or similiar... then there was only 1 guy speaking honestly stating exactly the same isssues we have here...

I texted also the inplemented functions called "splendid" that didnt help at all.. it only looked worse.... then there is "smartview" option wich makes the entire area grey'ish looking...

so i get a grey image instead of partial grey'ish... wow...

I dont wanna say all Asus screens are bad because some were really nice .. but this Asus VS228NE Model really is bad.

i hate bringing tech back to the store...meh

sunfrancks

It looks like the backlight is causing that. If you can turn it down, it might make the difference

r9xchaos

sunfrancks wrote: »

It looks like the backlight is causing that. If you can turn it down, it might make the difference

Ive looked into all options in the OSD menu and sadly ive only found "smart view" wich makes the entire screen looking grey'ish instead of only 90% of it ( 90% depending on view angle )

zipagat

If you are using an Nvidia GPU then you can manually adjust the colours in the Nvidia control panel, it might help somewhat. (I assume AMD have similar options but I don't use their GPUs so I can't comment)

By the sounds of it though Asus should stick to Motherboards.

r9xchaos

Well it is not the colors its is really only this Backlight/View Angle thinyg that is nuts...lol


ive tested different colorprofiles and all that there is no change at all its like i am looking through a fresnel at some point..lol


if you look at the comparison image it looks exactly like that when you sit here ... y.y


i paid 107 Euro for my BENQ when its was new'ish and the image is crystal clear...

96 Euro for the asus and yeah.. fresnel style.. y.y


i wish i knew the exact name for the issue other than "Backlight/View Angle issue".

doffingcomrade

What the heck am I even looking at here? That doesn't look like STO, I've never seen STO look like that on either screen.

r9xchaos

doffingcomrade wrote: »

What the heck am I even looking at here? That doesn't look like STO, I've never seen STO look like that on either screen.

well THIS is the original screenshot oO

zbzzn

It looks like an artefact of a cheap TN screen, as not all of them are created equally. In my own experience with Asus, their build and component quality has been steadily declining for years.

Depending on how much you are willing to spend, I would recommend returning the monitor and getting one with a higher quality TN screen, such as a Samsung, or shelling out for a display with an IPS panel.

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tiekosora

skollulfr wrote: »

pro-tip. **** pc monitors, buy tv screen.:D

checklist:
native (not dynamic flash beam) contrast
disablable/ non present "overscan"
over 60hz refresh rate (or equivailent)

result = 32"+ pc monitor.

I have to agree 100% on this. I am using an Emerson 39" LED TV as my monitor, and I love it.

rickeyredshirt

There is the possibility that you got a defective monitor, it happens. Why not return it to the vendor and exchange it? Also, naming and shaming is against forum policy!

I have a 48" tv and prefer my 2x25" monitors personally. Sometimes I will switch it up but I always go back to the monitors.

neppakyo

My Asus VE247 is awesome tho. Almost 2 years old.

r9xchaos

rickeyredshirt wrote: »

There is the possibility that you got a defective monitor, it happens. Why not return it to the vendor and exchange it? Also, naming and shaming is against forum policy!

I have a 48" tv and prefer my 2x25" monitors personally. Sometimes I will switch it up but I always go back to the monitors.

Its not a naming and shaming.. its a kind of review...since people here play STO and that screen will not do its job well for this type of game.. since black would become grey...so its good for everyone to know...


from what ive found on the internet now it is supposed to have that bad angle view / backlight...

zbzzn wrote: »

It looks like an artefact of a cheap TN screen, as not all of them are created equally. In my own experience with Asus, their build and component quality has been steadily declining for years.

Depending on how much you are willing to spend, I would recommend returning the monitor and getting one with a higher quality TN screen, such as a Samsung, or shelling out for a display with an IPS panel.

Yeah there is one IPS Panel screen for 107 Euros, i hope that one is better , going there in a few hours.

mjarbar

Probably to late to mention now but it looks like the casing is compressing the LCD display causing it to warp (and not in the STO way).

Personally I'd take it back and ask for a replacement and to check it before you leave to ensure its good, basically you don't need to run a program on it as just plugging it in and wait for a blank screen should show if there is an even colour across it.

If there isn't it may be inherent to the model and would ask for something else.

jaguarskx

r9xchaos wrote: »

Cathy's Screen died on powersaving error... and we had to buy a new one...

we installed it and it and its so bad i need to warn anyone...especially for spacegames this screen is a NO GO.


the only area where it shows almost "black" is at the top... wich is like 10% of the screen area... the rest is some milky grey... i made a picture of it and a picture of the screen i use so you see what i mean:


Link to image

If it is new, then just exchange it for another Asus monitor of the same model.

The monitor is suffering from extreme backlight bleeding. I have never seen anything quite as bad in recent years, but such things do happen. Backlight bleeding is one of inherent flaws of LCD monitors. All LCD monitors suffers from backlight bleeding (TN, IPS, VA, PLS panels) whether is very faint to not be noticeable or an extreme amount as in your case.

Return it for another one. It should be pretty simple.

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Oh, I did not notice you last post where you stated you were gonna get another monitor for 107 euros.

Personally, I dislike TN panel monitors so kudos for you getting an IPS monitor. Though at that price it is likely an e-IPS panel monitor rather than the more expensive S-IPS, H-IPS or P-IPS panels. Still e-IPS panels are much better than TN panels when it comes to color accuracy (not important for games) and wider viewing angles.

shadowwraith77

Unfortunately when it comes to electronic devices, there is always that chance of a defective one.

r9xchaos

Okay we returned the screen and had a long talk with the people there and in the end they offered us a BENQ GW2265 .. we are really happy with it.

it only costed 100 euros and a VA Panel, reviews say its to slow but i dont notice any issue


its a great model

jaguarskx

skollulfr wrote: »

pro-tip. **** pc monitors, buy tv screen.:D

checklist:
native (not dynamic flash beam) contrast
disablable/ non present "overscan"
over 60hz refresh rate (or equivailent)

result = 32"+ pc monitor.

Note: The wall of text below explains refresh rate for HDTVs which is different compared to the refresh rate for PC monitors.


When using HDTVs for games I actually recommend that you set the HDTV to "Game Mode" or manually drop the refresh rate to 60Hz.

HDTVs and PC monitors do not work the same way. A 120Hz (or higher) can actually display 120 frames on the screen if the graphics card is powerful enough to do so. Monitors have dual linked DVI ports. Each "link" operates at 60Hz therefore dual linked DVI ports can accept up to 120Hz or 120 frames per second.

HDTVs only have a single DVI or HDMI port. Both of which only operates at 60Hz meaning it only accepts 60 FSP at most. However, they do output up to 120Hz or 120 frames per second on the screen itself. So 60 frames input and up to 120 frames output. What does this mean exactly?

HDTVs have internal circuitry that does video interpolation which creates an "in between" (interpolated) frame in between every two actual frames and displays it on the screen. This helps make the video displayed on the screen look better because it of smoother playback (more on this further below) and it helps bring out some details. The way video interpolation works is a follows:

The HDTV receives frames from whatever source whether it is a DVD player, Blu-Ray Player, graphics card (GPU), etc. When it receives frame #0 (blank screen) and #1 it compares the frames and then creates an interpolated from that slots in between those two frames. Meaning frame #0.5 is created on the fly and is displayed on the screen in between frames #0 and #1. When frame #2 is received from the video source, frames #1 and #2 are compared to create frame #1.5. This process is continuously repeated. Thus, from a source providing only 60 frames per second, another 60 interpolated frames can be created and all 120 frames are displayed on the screen every second.

As you can imagine it takes a little bit of processing power to create the interpolated frame. This means there is a slight lag from the time the HDTV receives the video signal and when it is displayed on the screen. This is known as input lag which is the small time delay when you input commands from your keyboard, mouse, gamepad, etc to when your commands (or actions) is displayed on the screen.


"Smoother Playback"

In the US there are basically two dominate frame rates from video sources. The movie industry films movies at 24 FPS (actually it is 23.976 I believe); it is simply an old practice meant to cut cost because fewer frames on the movie reel meant lower costs; also a smaller reel to handle as well. Broadcast TV is filmed at 30 FPS. Side Note: I think the Hobbit movies are the 1st movies to switch to filming at 48 FPS.

Because broadcast TV show are filmed at 30 FPS and a 60Hz HDTV is capable of displaying 60 FPS, this means each frame is displayed twice every second. When the HDTV is operating at 120Hz, then each frame is displayed 4 times each second. 30 can divide evenly into 60 and 120.

Movies are filmed at 24 FPS, but 60 cannot be evenly divided by 24, the result is 2.5. It is rather impossible for a TV to only display half a video frame. What this means is that some frame are displayed 2 times every second while other frames are display 3 times per second when the HDTV is operating at 60Hz. This results in jerky motion that some people may not notice, however there are people who notices this effect. I have read of people complaining about headaches as a result of this. Not the majority of those people though.

When the HDTV is operating at 120Hz the result is much smoother playback of movies. This is because 24 evenly divides into 120. The result is each frame is display 5 times every second. Since all frames are displayed for an equal amount of time every second, the video plays back much smoother.

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