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when are the science ships getting the second deflector ...whats the hold up ?

wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
edited June 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
ok so we know that the secondary deflectors are coming I thought they would have been out by now anybody have a idea when they might be coming finally ? we have cruiser commands and flanking this one seems to be taking a little longer than expected so should we look for it for season 9.5 of 10 or 10.5? just wonder if there was word .........................because I know the pvp revamp is season 22 /sarcasm
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  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Soon(tm)

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  • vocmcpvocmcp Member Posts: 1,134 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    While they usually don't really test for balance in a sufficient manner they must have found quite some balancing issues with them I assume. They'll still be unbalanced once they're out but at least it won't be as bad anymore.
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  • tarastheslayertarastheslayer Member Posts: 1,541 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2014
    It took a while for the raiders to get their flanking bonus as well, so I'm expecting probably around the next expansion. Most likely anyway.
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  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I want a third deflector, psychic ponies, elastic polyacrylic badge runnels, and replicator bacon.

    But not in that order.
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited June 2014
    Upcoming content and blog posts confirm the 2ndary deflector is due in the later half of the season 9 release.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I hope the holdup is them designing and testing new, unique, and interesting powers attached to the secondary deflectors.
  • isvarnaisvarna Member Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The secondary deflector won't be installed until Tuesday.
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  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    I hope the holdup is them designing and testing new, unique, and interesting powers attached to the secondary deflectors.

    I'm pretty sure the secondary deflectors are just going to be minor skill boosts...like the full sized deflectors, but smaller.

    Then again, they could do it like Warp Cores and add unique mods that would make Science Vessels super-awesome.
  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I wish they wouldn't test these things, a bit like they didn't test the Valdore console... or the pre-nerf Elachi console... Science boff skills might become worth something then...
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  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Can I get one that gives a +10km radius on Gravity Wells so I'm snatching things into the black hole from 15km+ away? :P

    In all seriousness, I really do hope they add something to these deflectors that buffs up Sci Powah.

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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    ddesjardins wrote: »
    Upcoming content and blog posts confirm the 2ndary deflector is due in the later half of the season 9 release.

    Confirms nothing. That list is rarely up to date or accurate.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Devs are busy on expansion numero dos. Everything else has been delayed until then.

    See ya in November! :P
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  • bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    This is why the deflectors were a bad idea, they should have been powers like the cruisers received, how long of a delay did it take between the launch of the avenger and mogh before the powers were retrofitted to all other CRUISERs in the game compared to this deflector fiasco



    http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/star-trek-online/detail/3031123-season-8-dev-blog-_47
    this is where the 2nd deflector debuted...some might remember it


    this is when the comm array was first discussed

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  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The "Let's tell everyone something that they want is on the way to keep them playing then hold out as long as humanly possible" strategy. Interesting.
  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I guess in the next expansion..

    If they are not introduced in the next expansion.. i will say you can just forget about em. I guess it will be something included in the list of cryptic's "things that we promise, and we relase fully bugged or we dont release em at all". I hope im wrong, honestly.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    baelogventure wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the secondary deflectors are just going to be minor skill boosts...like the full sized deflectors, but smaller.

    Then again, they could do it like Warp Cores and add unique mods that would make Science Vessels super-awesome.

    Not quite. If they were just tiny skill boosts, there'd be no point. Here's the Solonae Secondary Deflector from the DSD. It's got three tiny skill boosts, and adds a passive shield stealing proc to several sci powers.

    What I *hope* for is a decent variety of such passive procs on secondary deflectors. If they're too weak, they're pointless. If they're strong, they require more work and more time for design, balancing, and testing. And the secondary deflectors probably aren't the highest priority right now.

    Maybe I'm putting a positive spin on it, but I'd rather they take their time and give us something good than rush something useless.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Secondary deflectors?
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2014
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    Not quite. If they were just tiny skill boosts, there'd be no point. Here's the Solonae Secondary Deflector from the DSD. It's got three tiny skill boosts, and adds a passive shield stealing proc to several sci powers.

    What I *hope* for is a decent variety of such passive procs on secondary deflectors. If they're too weak, they're pointless. If they're strong, they require more work and more time for design, balancing, and testing. And the secondary deflectors probably aren't the highest priority right now.

    Maybe I'm putting a positive spin on it, but I'd rather they take their time and give us something good than rush something useless.

    That Solonae deflector in particular is actually pretty good. I really want the devs to release the 2nd deflector update so I can slot it in my ship.
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    When it's done!

    Thats probably the most accurate release date you'll ever get.

    But in all fairness I must say, implementing them must be a huge load of work. Just think of it, implementing: mission rewards, random drops, different models with different modifiers for Mk I - Mk XII, and the overall balance of the game.
  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    I hope the holdup is them designing and testing new, unique, and interesting powers attached to the secondary deflectors.

    Probably more likely that it is to try to decide what pay gates and fleet build walls to put them behind.
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    Secondary deflectors?
    ^ this.
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  • stumpfgobsstumpfgobs Member Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I see the fact that the deflectors are still missing as a sign that the implementation they had with the dyson ship was insufficient and needed a major rework. Maybe they actually figured out that some science skills are too weak too and are working on fixing those before finishing the deflectors.
    Then again, they might as well do some major workaround without touching the broken skills, turning the deflectors into a gimmick that benefits everyone more than actual science characters.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    stumpfgobs wrote: »
    I see the fact that the deflectors are still missing as a sign that the implementation they had with the dyson ship was insufficient and needed a major rework. Maybe they actually figured out that some science skills are too weak too and are working on fixing those before finishing the deflectors.
    Then again, they might as well do some major workaround without touching the broken skills, turning the deflectors into a gimmick that benefits everyone more than actual science characters.
    Come on, this is Cryptic we are talking about. They are probably busy making another lockbox ship or anything that can make them money, instead of trying to balance skills that are useless for years now.
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    Secondary deflectors?
    orangeitis wrote: »
    ^this.

    Ah, but what year?? ;)


    I am guessing either season 9.5 (if it happens) or season 10....

    Nearly no effort was put into season 9, so the next expansion should be pretty epic! :cool:
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Nearly no effort was put into season 9, so the next expansion should be pretty epic! :cool:

    I really hope you are right about that!

    S9 was pretty poor quality really. Lots more bugs, most of which never even get ackowledged and barely any new story except for one FE.
    The STFs they added in are empty most ofthe time and the battlezone is a poor copy of the Voth ground battlezone that doesn't payout as well.

    I've built my sci ships around not having a 2nd deflector, and assuming they will never arrive. If they do then it will be a nice supprise i guess, i'm not holding out any hope though!
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  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    I really hope you are right about that!

    S9 was pretty poor quality really. Lots more bugs, most of which never even get ackowledged

    Hmm, this is pretty much the career of cryptic about STO since about the past 2 years... i think people is really get used to it. Expect 3 times more bugs in the next expansion.. :(, now i think the next expansion should be Epic, at least, the community of STO really need something huge!!.
  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    Come on, this is Cryptic we are talking about. They are probably busy making another lockbox ship or anything that can make them money, instead of trying to balance skills that are useless for years now.

    Dont get mad, its just there are still people out there that must be playing another different game for the past years.. lol. But yup, pretty much what you said.. unfortunately.
  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    S9 was pretty poor quality really. Lots more bugs, most of which never even get ackowledged and barely any new story except for one FE.

    Which is why I don't foresee good things moving forward either. S9 was about Species 8472, right? What improvement were made to Pelia sector? None. Actually outside of the FE and a few mini-raids there was nothing new. Leaves me with 0 faith the Delta Quadrant will have any appeal outside of the 'new car smell'.
  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    rickeyredshirt wrote: »
    Which is why I don't foresee good things moving forward either. S9 was about Species 8472, right? What improvement were made to Pelia sector? None. Actually outside of the FE and a few mini-raids there was nothing new. Leaves me with 0 faith the Delta Quadrant will have any appeal outside of the 'new car smell'.

    I think the major "improvement" in the next expansion will be the addition of new zones to explore and new sectors. At least that is what everybody is expecting.. (and the devs commented about that time ago). More than that i dont have a clue on what will be the next expansion based. The Delta Quadrant, yes.. but .. Borg Homeworld? Another dimension? or what.. honestly, they will need a lot of imagination.. of course a lot of people are waiting for the secondary deflectors, but if i need to say, i dont think we will ever see secondary deflectors. That is too much work, plus the expansion.. pff, i dont think so.
  • rickeyredshirtrickeyredshirt Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    policestate76 wrote: »
    That is too much work, plus the expansion.. pff, i dont think so.

    Exactly, especially when they have made it clear that if something is too 'hard' it will not get done.
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