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Is pvp bootcamp really teaching the skills of pvp or how to click buttons faster?
the4monkeys
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Is pvp bootcamp really teaching the skills of pvp or how to click buttons faster?
Quite simple really, just that, I played in some pug games lately and my build granted 1 year old now still holds out.
the problem is the people of today are not playing with maths like the legends, making themselves squishy and to be quite frank clueless about the game.
what do you think?
Quite simple really, just that, I played in some pug games lately and my build granted 1 year old now still holds out.
the problem is the people of today are not playing with maths like the legends, making themselves squishy and to be quite frank clueless about the game.
what do you think?
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The stuff of legends, huh?
@DevolvedOne
I think the 2x Tac, 2x Sci, 1x Eng vs. 4x Tac, 1x Sci doohickamabob Devolved linked is something that many folks don't get when they rage about STO being a Tac game.
wow and i thought i had anger......but yeah they are squishy as hell
@DevolvedOne
Btw, we were all set up for that rematch. What happened with that?
Cheers!
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Let's do it. Hobo's vs. Pandas. We usually have peeps on at night. If y'all can't play during a weekday evening/night (U.S. timezone) we could set one up for two weekends from now (I can't play this coming weekend). Let me know.
@DevolvedOne
I think you are bored.
And congratulations on "holding your own" against pugs.
Reading "guides" and c/p-ing builds is funny.
Who says that person that wrote the guide or made a build knows what he's doing?
I just like when they call it "master builds"
And also by c/p-ing you never get to figure out why is something there, or can you take it of and try something else.
Super SpecialStar Trek Online Review
SpecialTemporal PUG 100K DPS Build
We are Travelers
or short : New people can't spam the spacebar like vet players lol
Yeah, that's why I take advice, but I build my own ship. I've tried other people's builds but they usually just don't feel right or rely on a tactic that I don't use. Also, I think I've learned more about the game from experimenting with powers than from guides. Don't get me wrong, guides helped a lot at first, but after a while I needed to form my own play style.
lol, wrong. is a player more likely to learn the game with a build that will work? or a build that he came up with that wont.
some one succeeding is much more likely to figure out why the build he is using works then someone with a build that fundamentally doesn't work, and has no success with. once a player understands why the build he is using works, he doesn't need help making builds anymore.
"lol, wrong"??
-how can a player that needs to c/p other people's builds even know what is a good build?
-he won't ever figure it out that way, and he will need more advice every step of the way.
I know tons of examples of such behavior.
If you don't want to learn game mechanics, read tooltips, and actually notice in real-time what, why, how and when then no amount of build c/p-ing will help you.
Unless if we are here talking about broken dual a2b faw3 dem3 marion spiral valdore leech "builds" that you can indeed c/p, only thing you need is a spacebar and enough EC.
the point?
Super SpecialStar Trek Online Review
SpecialTemporal PUG 100K DPS Build
We are Travelers
Cookie-cutter builds can help set a foundation for learning PvP.
Using one to start, doesn't mean you can't learn about the game at the same time. You can pick it apart and remake it as your own.
LOL seeing this post reminded me of fs on ground pvp
http://www.meijiamerica.com/#products/panda
Was a trip, looking at the site though - seeing these there as well...
http://www.meijiamerica.com/#products/chocorooms
Meh, now I'm hungry.
edit: Tuscany Tuesday at Pizza Hut...woot, woot!
your argument is basically that training wheels are a BS way to learn how to ride a bike.
until about season 7, i was maintaining the go to thread for cookie cutter build. i received a ton of feedback about it from people that used it and it worked for them exactly as i described. they had no idea what they were doing, what a functional build looked like, or how any ability interacted and how and when they should be used. they had no way to learn ether if all their experienced was total failure every time.
with a build that works if used right, at least they have a foundation from which they can learn. when they figure out how to make the functional build work, they understand WHY it works, and they don't need to be spoon fed anymore. that's the theory behind that thread, and everyone i talked to that used it told me that's how they learned to play well.
@DevolvedOne
"If I left the game forever, I would hope I dont come back just to troll."
House of Beautiful Orions
PUNISH THE FEDs
I certainly agree on this, Mindsharp.
As tedious as it may have seemed to some to answer the same questions over and over from different folks on things - I think it's far worse that the questions simply aren't being asked as much. Threads weren't stickied - the search is still more miss than hit - so yeah, either there's no new players coming in (which doesn't match what's being seen in the game by examples of gameplay from players) or folks just don't care about learning in the least and are just working their spacebars harder and faster while hoping for the best...sometimes not even caring for the best...just mash TRIBBLE faster.