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Is the "Bug Ship" worth the money?

stomperx99stomperx99 Member Posts: 863 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
As the title says, is it worth the money. It's a bit expensive at the moment, at least 3/4 months of saving. Just looking for some opinions, and some builds for it would be nice :)

P.S. I do own the Dreadnought Carrier.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    No.

    It's a good ship. Great, even. If it were priced competitively with other lockbox ships, it would certainly be worth that much.

    But now you can get a Nicor for less than 1/3 the price, or spend $25 for Steamrunner, $30 for a Fleet AE or FPE-R...

    If you want it as a status symbol, or to unlock the pets, that sort of throws out the value assessment, and I certainly won't discourage you from setting a goal to get one. But as a ship, the value isn't there.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited May 2014
    As an unlock for the pets for your dreadnaught... seems a shame not to have it.

    But it's not the 'end-all-be-all' it once was. Several ships now equal or eclipse it in capabilities based on your preferences.
  • alys0banealys0bane Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    As an escort is in a good ship, one of the betters for sure. But as a hangar it is like I am playing a different ship with my JHDC. I have wing commander and they stay level 5 in most battles unlike the fighters.
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The Bug is not worth it at all IMO, at this stage in the game it has been surpassed by some of the other escorts available in-game.

    I have the Bug and the only real reason that I even wanted it was to unlock the Hangars for my Jem Dread.

    The Bug is still a nice ship but unless you really want to unlock the Hangars for the Dread you can get better bang for your buck elsewhere.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    stomperx99 wrote: »
    As the title says, is it worth the money. It's a bit expensive at the moment, at least 3/4 months of saving. Just looking for some opinions, and some builds for it would be nice :)

    P.S. I do own the Dreadnought Carrier.
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  • stomperx99stomperx99 Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Well I guess I'll get the Nicor for now. some day in the future I may put up my buck for the Bug.

    Thanks kids! :D
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  • foundrelicfoundrelic Member Posts: 1,380 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The JHAS is a great ship, in fact, if I weren't so damn partial to my defiant, it would be my go-to ship when I'm not in my Dreadnaught.
  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    foundrelic wrote: »
    The JHAS is a great ship, in fact, if I weren't so damn partial to my defiant, it would be my go-to ship when I'm not in my Dreadnaught.

    Same here, I have one, and I love it.

    But I still love my defiant more.
  • albinovampire987albinovampire987 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The leader of my fleet has the bug ship, and he is down-right deadly in it!
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I got a bug from the Winter box when it first came out. It's nice, but it's not worth the price it goes for. Maybe when it first came out, but there are so many ships now that are comparable for a fraction of the price. (I'd gladly sell it for 400M if I could find a way to stuff it back in the box! :D)
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Is the Bug worth the 400 million EC price tag? No. Not even to use the Bug pets on a J-Dread. Bug pets are nice and all, but not 400 million nice.

    However, the Bug itself is still very very good. I would argue it's the best non-gimmick escort in the game.

    It isn't a hybrid of some kind
    It doesn't have any silly universal consoles
    It doesn't have some kind of silly gimmick to it
    It has no cloak.

    What it is though, is fast, durable, and hard hitting. It's an escort with a couple of arguably not-very-universal, universal BOFF slots, namely the 2 Lt's. But it does it's job of killing, and it does it very well.
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  • r9xchaosr9xchaos Member Posts: 249
    edited May 2014
    im happy with my mirror dhelan :D
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Fleet Patrol Escort Refit nailed it.

    FPER: 5 FSMs or 2500 Zen + 1 Module
    34.700 HP.
    1.045 shield modifier
    4/3+1 weapon layout
    Comm tac, LtComm uni, LtComm engi, Lt. Sci
    3 / 2 / 5 console layout
    Nadion bomb that's WELL worth equipping if you use phasers.
    16 turn
    .20 impulse mod

    JHAS - 450mil EC or more unique than rare drop
    34.500 HP
    1 shield modifier
    4/3 weapon layout
    Comm tac, LtComm tac, ensign engi, double Lt Uni.
    4 / 1 / 5 console layout
    20 turn
    .22 impulse mod

    Now, is the JHAS worth that much anymore? No, and it never was. Patrol fused Lt + Ensign to LtComm, therefore your rank 1 crappy skill is potentially upgraded to rank 3. As a result it's a lot more tanky, and with AtD, EPTE, two RCS and a tachyo I get turn rate over 70. Bugs aren't a problem anymore really.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The game has moved on. It is still a great ship, but not really worth the price unless you really want it.

    There are better ships for less now, especially since the new FPE was released. I don't really use mine anymore...
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  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It's complicated and you'll hear answers from both "sides" .

    For me it's not actually worth 400-500M .
    It is also for a specific type of player -- those who enjoy speed-tanking in PVP .

    I have seen it being deadly in PVP , I have experienced it being less then very endurant in PVE (where you sit still and pew-pew the Borg cube/gate for the 10.000th time) .

    From my experience , the Hirogen attack ship came closest in performance -- if you slap a couple of Fleet RCS consoles on the Hirogen ship .
    I've seen the Nicor come up here , but with only 2 Eng consoles , that ship has been a bit squishy for me . Still fun but squishy .

    So , in short , it has a nice turn (but sometimes you can overdo the turn) , it has a less then clear front/back section (from afar you have problem to tell head from tail unless you see the weapons fire coming out from one side) .

    As for build suggestions , I don't PVP with it much (so no real need for an A2B build) , so these are two of my PVE builds for it .
    It may not be the best , but it's good for starters . :)

    Also speaking for myself , I'm interested in seeing it preform with a Romulan Crit Tac .
  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It's a good ship and a beast when kitted right. But so are a few others that are far less expensive.


    Nowadays, it's just a pricey status symbol.
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  • r9xchaosr9xchaos Member Posts: 249
    edited May 2014
    You can do fine with any tier 5 ship...its just about taste and preference really...

    i personally dont see why i should buy a ship for money or lots of EC/Dilithium when i can do all content with the free ships...


    i bought myself a Mirror version of the ship i wanted and i do okay.

    based on that you can byu any ship and pay any amount... from 0 - 1 billion...if you want it you buy it... worth depends on how much worth it is TO YOU ^^
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Whether it's worth 400 million ecs is up to you. But if you're not gonna fly the bug then it probably seems like a waste just to get the jem pets. They're really good pets but not 400 million ecs good. The difference between best attack pets and second best attack pets is probably measured in seconds.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    400m+ is extremely expensive for a pet. Especially considering the DPS gain is extremely minor (you'll be happy if there is any). The only thing you'll have over scorpion fighters (for example) is more survivability, which mean less micromanagement.

    As for the ship itself, it used to be OP, but powercreep happened, and we have new toys that are as good/better.


    I honestly think 400m is overpriced by a huge margin compared to what it does in the current meta. But then it's up to you, if you have billions and nothing to spend on, go for it.
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  • stomperx99stomperx99 Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    If Cryptic puts it in a doff pack again I'll make a decent effort to get it. But for now I'll stick with the Nicor.

    Thanks y'all.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    As a durable, hard hitting dogfighting Escort, you will not find anything better. You may see Escorts rivaling its firepower. Maybe even durability. But no other Escort has the natural agility and speed of the JHAS. Only the Risian Corvette is faster. Only the KDF B'Rel BOP and Risian Corvette has better turn. But the Corvette and BOPs will get destroyed by the JHAS. They don't have the firepower nor survivability of the JHAS.

    But for the money it goes for now, no.

    You have a lot of options of Escorts that are close enough to the total package of a JHAS, but not cost you such a high amount.

    And getting the JHAS for the sake of the Elite JHAS unit for the JHDC is very, very expensive. It's a great unit, but not so powerful that you need to fork 400m+ for it, as other Frigate units are comparable in their performance (albeit with other Carriers).
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