What kind of storylines would everyone like to see coming up. Or at least, what do they THINK they'll see.
Personally, I'm unrealistically hoping (as I mentioned in another thread) for a "Captain Ahab" type story, a type of story that's a commonly recurring theme. I think it would be nice to see a tribute. An important character (Shon is a good choice, we've seen him a lot) could perhaps die, and we have to chase down the killer. I'm thinking some kind of rogue Starfleet element, perhaps in a badass new ship we could see in the Zen store or something.
As for the overall story, I think it would be nice to come across a friendly Iconian, perhaps give them some explanation.
the expansion has made mention of Harry Kim, probably captain of the Rhode Island nova refit. considering the dyson sphere in the delta quadrant, the 8472 and various bits mentioned about the delta quadrant, it is not a stretch to guess its going to be a storyline probably based on something significant to the quadrant, in SOI you see a planet called Quarra, if im not mistaken thats the people who abducted the entire voyager crew, blocked the crews original thoughts and created a new personality to work in some massive industrial area on the planet, iconians were hoping to get the Quarren mind control technology by trying to make a direct offer. my bet is that these Quarren are in the middle of it and perhaps more distant actions from the iconians bringing more trouble to the newly allied kdf/ufp/rr group. if the team manage to get Ethan Phillips then you know for certain its in the delta quadrant because my favorite character, neelix wil be put on the game, no doubt.
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I enjoyed the Xindi weapon story from enterprise season 3, one of those types of story for a new episode arc would be awesome.
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
--Seven of Nine gets re-assimilated and replaced by an ex-Borg who is NOT a sex object.
Oh wheeee! Another Neo-Victorian heard from :P. Oh well, just means more rampant nookie for the rest of us
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What kind of storylines would everyone like to see coming up.
How about one featuring characters who actually act with a modicum of intelligence and common sense.
-- Fire Jiro Sugihara.
-- Send an expedition into fluidic space to yell at the Undine for having their heads jammed even further up their asses than the Federation had done.
-- Kill off Koren for being an annoying, whiny b*tch.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
How about one featuring characters who actually act with a modicum of intelligence and common sense.
-- Fire Jiro Sugihara.
-- Send an expedition into fluidic space to yell at the Undine for having their heads jammed even further up their asses than the Federation had done.
-- Kill off Koren for being an annoying, whiny b*tch.
--Supported.
--Oh, yeah, THAT's gonna end well...tell a bunch of racist xenophobes to stop being racist xenophobes. Uh-huh.
--Oh, come on! She's being a good, proper Klingon woman! From her perspective, the Federation are honorless traitors! WE broke the Khitomer accords by refusing to support the Klingons (our allies) in the destruction of an enemy force (the Undine). And the fact that we were infiltrated by Undine the entire time doesn't help.
--Oh, yeah, THAT's gonna end well...tell a bunch of racist xenophobes to stop being racist xenophobes. Uh-huh.
More like "tell a bunch of racist xenophobes to stop being complete idiots".
Undine: "The weak will--" Kanril Eleya: "Yeah, about that. I think us completely obliterating several of your fleets while being outnumbered by at least twenty to one conclusively demonstrates us to be the exact opposite of weak. Now start acting like sensible people, as you and I both damn well know you are capable of, or we'll give the Klingons free rein to slaughter qa'meH QuV. The weak will perish, jackass!"
--Oh, come on! She's being a good, proper Klingon woman! From her perspective, the Federation are honorless traitors! WE broke the Khitomer accords by refusing to support the Klingons (our allies) in the destruction of an enemy force (the Undine). And the fact that we were infiltrated by Undine the entire time doesn't help.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about her continuous immature harping on the Federation only managing to send two ships to Qo'noS.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
More like "tell a bunch of racist xenophobes to stop being complete idiots".
Undine: "The weak will--" Kanril Eleya: "Yeah, about that. I think us completely obliterating several of your fleets while being outnumbered by at least twenty to one conclusively demonstrates us to be the exact opposite of weak. Now start acting like sensible people, as you and I both damn well know you are capable of, or we'll give the Klingons free rein to slaughter qa'meH QuV."
Response: Planet killer beams from all directions. The old kind, not the new shock-and-awe-so-big kind.
They're racists. They don't listen to reason and logic.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about her continuous immature harping on the Federation only managing to send two ships to Qo'noS.
Continuous?
And look, the Federation promised support. There's a whole f*cking Undine battle fleet thrashing the hell out of the Empire's finest, and the Feds send the Voyager and the [Insert PC's ship name here]. Not exactly a lot of support, especially given that Voyager's a t4 Intrepid that's been in service for well over 30 years.
I have to agree with Ba'alfan for once, racists usually have their heads shoved up so far up their backside that if the race they hate states that the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west, they'll insist on the opposite being true. The Undine fit this irrational devotion to their self-described superiority to a T.
I have to agree with Ba'alfan for once, racists usually have their heads shoved up so far up their backside that if the race they hate states that the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west, they'll insist on the opposite being true. The Undine fit this irrational devotion to their self-described superiority to a T.
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I've had some really head-scratching experiences with racists. The Undine fit the bill completely.
The thing is, they've demonstrated the ability to be reasonable in the past (VOY: "In the Flesh"). I'm not disputing that they're bad people, just that they're not as bad as Cryptic seems to think they are.
The storyline as written requires them to be so stupid it's a wonder they manage to get up in the morning. Just like it required the Federation to be stupid dumbass f*cks about a blatantly obvious infiltration problem (i.e. the Undine actually really suck at infiltrating).
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
The thing is, they've demonstrated the ability to be reasonable in the past (VOY: "In the Flesh"). I'm not disputing that they're bad people, just that they're not as bad as Cryptic seems to think they are.
The storyline as written requires them to be so stupid it's a wonder they manage to get up in the morning. Just like it required the Federation to be stupid dumbass f*cks about a blatantly obvious infiltration problem.
Well...
With the Undine, an explanation that I saw that I really liked is that from their perspective, they're going to wipe us out for not keeping up our end of the bargain and keeping our issues in our space.
Even if they KNOW about the false-flag op, it still implies that we are weak enough that a faction in our space is able to annoy the Undine even though we promised to stay away.
Basically, we're adolescents who promised to watch the toddlers and failed. So we must be punished. And to the Undine, inferiors like us can only be punished with death.
From the Fed side, it was pretty clear from the storyline and stuff that the UFP was completely infiltrated from the start. An Admiral, the leading expert on alien tech, ESD's chief science officer, a Vulcan ambassador and former councilor, a starship Captain...these are just the ones we FOUND.
I would actually be happy if Cryptic tied up the current mission series with an end episode that didn't need an immediate conclusion. A bit like how The Next Generation ended (2366-2369) and DS9 began (2369-2375). In sense, we would be seeing a new series in STO begin, with some previous episodes also featured so as to set the scene, only those missions would be heavily modified to be logical, along with the new stuff.
I say this mainly because the current line up of missions is ragged, clumsy and unorganised, a bit like making up the storyline as you go. Not the best option in my opinion. Rather this new series storyline would be created before the first episode was made, so everyone in the dev team knew where the next episode would go and could therefore connect the episodes logically.
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- What happened to the Ocumpa? The Caretaker left them with only 5 years of power.
- Also what happened to the Evil Ocumpa who were with the other Caretaker?
Went extinct within a couple decades from being an evolutionary dead end.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I would really like to see some more action from the Cardassians, there is still a lot of rebuilding to do from the Dominion War which might provide some interesting story lines. Especially if they flesh out the True Way and perhaps bring the Marquis into it. I realise this would be more engineered towards Federation players over the KDF or Romulan Republic but I think it would be really fun, especially with Thomas Riker still out there up to mischief .
Other than that, more Undine content especially interesting ground content. Give us a reason to want to get that ground set, since they retconned the entire Undine story arc there are only two missions which have them on the ground in any numbers, that mission from the Borg arc and Undine Infiltration. TWO missions, sucks to be honest. Hopefully there will be a Season 9.5 update with some more content to sink our teeth into.
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During the Prison mission where you got the Founder. Several inmates has escaped. I would like to see what happened to them. What trouble did they cause next? Did we get them captured again?
What about the Remen area on New Romulas? We can't access that area. So what it look like? Did they find a new threat down there?
From the Voyager Episode Dragon's Teeth. The crew found the Vaadwaur. What became of them?
What about all the other types of civilizations from Voyager and DS9? What came of them?
What about some of the older civilizations like from Enterprise, TOS, or TNG? What came of them.
The sky is the limit on what you can do.
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Traditionally, I'd have been against the Emperor being someone we know. But then DS9 went and gave us Regent Worf and Enterprise gave us Empress Hoshi.
There are a variety of reasons for this.
Wil Wheaton loves playing villains and is good at it. He doesn't want to play the traditional Wesley anymore.
In video games, there is always the risk of a guest voiceover overshadowing the player as the hero. Villain voiceovers get around this.
If people are annoyed by Wesley, that actually makes him a good villain to fight. If he's a walking plot device in terms of his intellect, that again is a trait that you may hate on a hero but which makes for a GREAT villain.
Think of the Companion Cube from Portal. Think of how almost every classic Trek villain was known for their ability to verbally taunt you. Now you're in a base full of death traps and imagine Wesley Crusher is over the intercom constantly calling you an idiot, critiquing everything you do, daring you to stop him and them making it very hard for you to do.
In imagining a Mirror Wesley, I realized that he's probably more or less Hamlet. His uncle "Jean-Luc" probably did kill his father and marry his mother, even moreso than in the Prime Universe. Hence, there is some pedigree to the character, some weight.
Now... Why "Emperor"? Well, think about what made the normal Wesley frustrating for many viewers. He was good at everything (including cosmic mind skills) except talking to women. And then Ashley Judd just sort of ran into him so he's even lucky at the one thing he's bad at. Yet in spite of being good at everything, the source of his "whining" was that he lacked direction. He COULD do anything but the Federation encouraged people to do whatever they wanted and so like many real young people, Wesley drifted and bounced back and forth between ambitions, unsure of what to do or become until the Traveler showed up with a new offer. (And even then, Wesley rejected that going by the Nemesis deleted scenes and the Titan experience which, unlike the books, established that Wesley went back to Starfleet and served as Riker's chief engineer on the Titan.)
Now... All this aimlessness and uncertainty and teen angst is the product of a cushy Federation life. Take a Wesley with the same skill and potential and imagine him in a world where it's kill or be killed, hunt or be hunted, conquer or be enslaved. Suddenly all that teen angst goes out the window and you're left with a cunning and resourceful jack of all trades who never has to think twice about how to use his gifts: he'll use them for survival and he'll use them for advancement. First under the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance, then probably in a rebel camp... And by the time the Terran Federation/Empire comes back, you have this starving genius who no longer needs to worry about mere survival. Now he can have revenge and he can dominate.
Someone with all of Wesley Crusher's skills and none of his indecision, hesitation, angst, or morality would be in the running for the throne. Either someone else gets the drop on him before he can reach it or he winds up running the show, either as the Emperor or a top advisor who pulls the strings of a puppet emperor (come to think of it, that would be good for a Mirror Data type).
Also, I think by focusing on the Terran politics, we can get around some of the wackiness of how they rebuilt an empire in 30 years. We know from the game's lore that this isn't some alternate Mirror Universe. This is the Mirror Universe and the new Terran Empire was built in under 30 years. We have the story of Smiley and some misguided idealists who tried to make a better empire but I think that story is a hard sell if we're focused too much on the Terran Starfleet as a whole. But becomes much easier to sell if we're looking at a more personal side of the story that acknowledges there were many players and events that contributed to where we are now. Rather than being "Smiley built a few thousand ships", it could be political wheeling and dealing, Romulan backing, hundreds of researchers collaborating... A complete Path to 2409 to rival our own. And Wesley could be a very large piece of that if there's a Mirror Wesley who has the luck and skill of regular Wesley.
I think it would be cool to see Khazons (or however you spell it) in a story where they try to capture Federation Space.
Kazons? Aren't they that species whom even the Borg consider to be complete dumbasses?
For crying out loud, these people killed themselves with a replicator. They raid planets for water, one of the more common substances in the universe.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Yeah, really, they wouldn't even make it past the first colony they encountered simply because they're idiots. Sure, they've got decent weapons, but that's because another species gave those to them.
What would I like to see besides continuing the Iconian plot?
1) Advance or wrap-up some of the dangling Tholian plotlines.
2) Do something more with the flagships and develop their crews.
3) What's going on over in the mirror universe? Why do Terran ships come flying out of anomalies caused by Tholian ships exploding? And what are the mirror Romulans even like?
3) What have the Breen been upto since we prevented them from getting the Preserver archive?
4) Why did the Dominion tell us they know the Iconians are coming and that when they do we're on our own?
5) The Klingon Empire isn't exactly one big happy family. What kind of political fallout is happening now that the war is over?
6) Are the Gorn going to finally decide to rebel or not?
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--More Breen and Dominion stuff. Because Breen and Dominion = awesome.
--Cardassia ground and space maps, possibly with missions attached.
--Dominion faction.
--Seven of Nine gets re-assimilated and replaced by an ex-Borg who is NOT a sex object.
--Obisek gets assimilated and self-liberates through sheer badassness, and we get to work with him to save something. Because Obisek is awesome.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Iconian, Undine STF stories.
Oh wheeee! Another Neo-Victorian heard from :P. Oh well, just means more rampant nookie for the rest of us
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How about one featuring characters who actually act with a modicum of intelligence and common sense.
-- Fire Jiro Sugihara.
-- Send an expedition into fluidic space to yell at the Undine for having their heads jammed even further up their asses than the Federation had done.
-- Kill off Koren for being an annoying, whiny b*tch.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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--Supported.
--Oh, yeah, THAT's gonna end well...tell a bunch of racist xenophobes to stop being racist xenophobes. Uh-huh.
--Oh, come on! She's being a good, proper Klingon woman! From her perspective, the Federation are honorless traitors! WE broke the Khitomer accords by refusing to support the Klingons (our allies) in the destruction of an enemy force (the Undine). And the fact that we were infiltrated by Undine the entire time doesn't help.
Undine: "The weak will--"
Kanril Eleya: "Yeah, about that. I think us completely obliterating several of your fleets while being outnumbered by at least twenty to one conclusively demonstrates us to be the exact opposite of weak. Now start acting like sensible people, as you and I both damn well know you are capable of, or we'll give the Klingons free rein to slaughter qa'meH QuV. The weak will perish, jackass!"
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about her continuous immature harping on the Federation only managing to send two ships to Qo'noS.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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They're racists. They don't listen to reason and logic.
Continuous?
And look, the Federation promised support. There's a whole f*cking Undine battle fleet thrashing the hell out of the Empire's finest, and the Feds send the Voyager and the [Insert PC's ship name here]. Not exactly a lot of support, especially given that Voyager's a t4 Intrepid that's been in service for well over 30 years.
This^^^^^
I've had some really head-scratching experiences with racists. The Undine fit the bill completely.
The storyline as written requires them to be so stupid it's a wonder they manage to get up in the morning. Just like it required the Federation to be stupid dumbass f*cks about a blatantly obvious infiltration problem (i.e. the Undine actually really suck at infiltrating).
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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Well...
With the Undine, an explanation that I saw that I really liked is that from their perspective, they're going to wipe us out for not keeping up our end of the bargain and keeping our issues in our space.
Even if they KNOW about the false-flag op, it still implies that we are weak enough that a faction in our space is able to annoy the Undine even though we promised to stay away.
Basically, we're adolescents who promised to watch the toddlers and failed. So we must be punished. And to the Undine, inferiors like us can only be punished with death.
From the Fed side, it was pretty clear from the storyline and stuff that the UFP was completely infiltrated from the start. An Admiral, the leading expert on alien tech, ESD's chief science officer, a Vulcan ambassador and former councilor, a starship Captain...these are just the ones we FOUND.
- Also what happened to the Evil Ocumpa who were with the other Caretaker?
I say this mainly because the current line up of missions is ragged, clumsy and unorganised, a bit like making up the storyline as you go. Not the best option in my opinion. Rather this new series storyline would be created before the first episode was made, so everyone in the dev team knew where the next episode would go and could therefore connect the episodes logically.
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This^^^^^
Ocampa biology and reproduction makes NO SENSE at ALL.
Other than that, more Undine content especially interesting ground content. Give us a reason to want to get that ground set, since they retconned the entire Undine story arc there are only two missions which have them on the ground in any numbers, that mission from the Borg arc and Undine Infiltration. TWO missions, sucks to be honest. Hopefully there will be a Season 9.5 update with some more content to sink our teeth into.
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During the Prison mission where you got the Founder. Several inmates has escaped. I would like to see what happened to them. What trouble did they cause next? Did we get them captured again?
What about the Remen area on New Romulas? We can't access that area. So what it look like? Did they find a new threat down there?
From the Voyager Episode Dragon's Teeth. The crew found the Vaadwaur. What became of them?
What about all the other types of civilizations from Voyager and DS9? What came of them?
What about some of the older civilizations like from Enterprise, TOS, or TNG? What came of them.
The sky is the limit on what you can do.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Mirror Universe Wesley Crusher, Terran Emperor.
Traditionally, I'd have been against the Emperor being someone we know. But then DS9 went and gave us Regent Worf and Enterprise gave us Empress Hoshi.
There are a variety of reasons for this.
Wil Wheaton loves playing villains and is good at it. He doesn't want to play the traditional Wesley anymore.
In video games, there is always the risk of a guest voiceover overshadowing the player as the hero. Villain voiceovers get around this.
If people are annoyed by Wesley, that actually makes him a good villain to fight. If he's a walking plot device in terms of his intellect, that again is a trait that you may hate on a hero but which makes for a GREAT villain.
Think of the Companion Cube from Portal. Think of how almost every classic Trek villain was known for their ability to verbally taunt you. Now you're in a base full of death traps and imagine Wesley Crusher is over the intercom constantly calling you an idiot, critiquing everything you do, daring you to stop him and them making it very hard for you to do.
In imagining a Mirror Wesley, I realized that he's probably more or less Hamlet. His uncle "Jean-Luc" probably did kill his father and marry his mother, even moreso than in the Prime Universe. Hence, there is some pedigree to the character, some weight.
Now... Why "Emperor"? Well, think about what made the normal Wesley frustrating for many viewers. He was good at everything (including cosmic mind skills) except talking to women. And then Ashley Judd just sort of ran into him so he's even lucky at the one thing he's bad at. Yet in spite of being good at everything, the source of his "whining" was that he lacked direction. He COULD do anything but the Federation encouraged people to do whatever they wanted and so like many real young people, Wesley drifted and bounced back and forth between ambitions, unsure of what to do or become until the Traveler showed up with a new offer. (And even then, Wesley rejected that going by the Nemesis deleted scenes and the Titan experience which, unlike the books, established that Wesley went back to Starfleet and served as Riker's chief engineer on the Titan.)
Now... All this aimlessness and uncertainty and teen angst is the product of a cushy Federation life. Take a Wesley with the same skill and potential and imagine him in a world where it's kill or be killed, hunt or be hunted, conquer or be enslaved. Suddenly all that teen angst goes out the window and you're left with a cunning and resourceful jack of all trades who never has to think twice about how to use his gifts: he'll use them for survival and he'll use them for advancement. First under the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance, then probably in a rebel camp... And by the time the Terran Federation/Empire comes back, you have this starving genius who no longer needs to worry about mere survival. Now he can have revenge and he can dominate.
Someone with all of Wesley Crusher's skills and none of his indecision, hesitation, angst, or morality would be in the running for the throne. Either someone else gets the drop on him before he can reach it or he winds up running the show, either as the Emperor or a top advisor who pulls the strings of a puppet emperor (come to think of it, that would be good for a Mirror Data type).
Also, I think by focusing on the Terran politics, we can get around some of the wackiness of how they rebuilt an empire in 30 years. We know from the game's lore that this isn't some alternate Mirror Universe. This is the Mirror Universe and the new Terran Empire was built in under 30 years. We have the story of Smiley and some misguided idealists who tried to make a better empire but I think that story is a hard sell if we're focused too much on the Terran Starfleet as a whole. But becomes much easier to sell if we're looking at a more personal side of the story that acknowledges there were many players and events that contributed to where we are now. Rather than being "Smiley built a few thousand ships", it could be political wheeling and dealing, Romulan backing, hundreds of researchers collaborating... A complete Path to 2409 to rival our own. And Wesley could be a very large piece of that if there's a Mirror Wesley who has the luck and skill of regular Wesley.
Kazons? Aren't they that species whom even the Borg consider to be complete dumbasses?
For crying out loud, these people killed themselves with a replicator. They raid planets for water, one of the more common substances in the universe.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
You don't need to make rational sense when you have PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS.
1) Advance or wrap-up some of the dangling Tholian plotlines.
2) Do something more with the flagships and develop their crews.
3) What's going on over in the mirror universe? Why do Terran ships come flying out of anomalies caused by Tholian ships exploding? And what are the mirror Romulans even like?
3) What have the Breen been upto since we prevented them from getting the Preserver archive?
4) Why did the Dominion tell us they know the Iconians are coming and that when they do we're on our own?
5) The Klingon Empire isn't exactly one big happy family. What kind of political fallout is happening now that the war is over?
6) Are the Gorn going to finally decide to rebel or not?