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So, about that K'Vort...

hawke89305092hawke89305092 Member Posts: 237 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Klingon Discussion
If the official stance on this is that it's not going to happen because it's an oversized B'Rel...

You might want to not reference it in the game. :rolleyes:
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    They didnt even reference it right LOL

    Ka'vort class battlecruiser
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jellico1 wrote: »
    They didnt even reference it right LOL

    Ka'vort class battlecruiser

    The K'vort was referenced as a Battle Cruiser in the "Yesterday's Enterprise" alternate timeline. It's a Bird-of-Prey in the prime timeline.

    edit: It's not the only example of different folks calling the same ship something different in a Star Trek series/movie/etc.

    edit2: Still wish they'd split the difference on it and make it a Heavy Raptor Carrier to fill in the missing Zen Raptor. ;)
  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    The K'vort was referenced as a Battle Cruiser in the "Yesterday's Enterprise" alternate timeline. It's a Bird-of-Prey in the prime timeline.

    edit: It's not the only example of different folks calling the same ship something different in a Star Trek series/movie/etc.

    edit2: Still wish they'd split the difference on it and make it a Heavy Raptor Carrier to fill in the missing Zen Raptor. ;)

    what prime timeline is it ever refered too I dont seem to recall the ka'Vort refered about ever again

    The larger bop style ships saw in the klingon civil war i believe were great birds

    and those Kavorts in yesterdays enterprise were not class 5 scout bop's there were very much larger
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_Bird-of-Prey
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    The K'vort was referenced as a Battle Cruiser in the "Yesterday's Enterprise" alternate timeline. It's a Bird-of-Prey in the prime timeline.

    edit: It's not the only example of different folks calling the same ship something different in a Star Trek series/movie/etc.

    edit2: Still wish they'd split the difference on it and make it a Heavy Raptor Carrier to fill in the missing Zen Raptor. ;)

    Actually it was first called "Bird of Prey" by Riker in "Yesterday's Enterprise" in the scene where a single one attacks the two Enterprises and kills Garrett.
    Before the second attack by the three ones it's called "battlecruiser" by Wes.

    As I understand it from the Hayne's Manual, Bird of Prey is not actually a class of ship but it defines a shape.
    So it can be basically any class of ship as long as it's shaped properly.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jellico1 wrote: »

    what prime timeline is it ever refered too I dont seem to recall the ka'Vort refered about ever again

    The larger bop style ships saw in the klingon civil war i believe were great birds

    and those Kavorts in yesterdays enterprise were not class 5 scout bop's there were very much larger

    The IKS Koraga in the DS9 episode "Penumbra" was identified as a K'vort class ship.
  • ddemlongddemlong Member Posts: 294
    edited May 2014
    The type players want will never happen. instead we will get a butchered cruiser comparable tho a normal T5 cruiser. this is all IFF, they even do it.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The Hegh'ta would work for this if they would tweak it a bit, give it stats close to a Dhelan and it would be a very solid destroyer-class BOP, leaving the others to cover the frigate and escort weights
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Hegh'ta=K'vort+art upgrade. its the same size
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    According to hard canon By the creator of star trek

    S-11 scout romulan = klingon bop K-22 class 5 ..........47.000 mt

    D-32 stronger bird class VII........................................ 80.000 mt

    L-42 great bird class X ............................................146.000 mt
    Klingon starship recognition manual

    The Kavort class should be larger than the L-42 imo there is no published tech manual for it I know of

    anything endorsed by gene roddenbury trumps anything found elsewhere in my book

    including the wiki and sto..........anything in sto is considered soft canon

    If someone bought a trek franshise and made klingons all wearing pink lipstick and wearing pink Tutu's with rainbow colored ships !!!
    would you call that cannon because there in a movie ?

    I would not....A lot of fans dont like the JJ changes to canon as well

    But there you go ..........Trek can be most anything today because current lisense holders instead of supporting canon attempt to creat there own version of something already established for a quick buck................It doesnt make it cvanon tho

    ........................................ From a certian point of view...............................
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    jellico1 wrote: »
    According to hard canon By the creator of star trek

    ........................................ From a certian point of view...............................

    What the hell are you on?
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    What the hell are you on?

    Im on star trek...................:P

    look up

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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    jellico1 wrote: »
    Im on star trek...................:P

    look up

    klingon starship recognition manual

    So noncanon then :cool:.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    During a podcast, they said they wasn't going to do a larger BOP for a K'Vort. However they did say maybe make it into a different new ship.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ursusmorologus wrote: »
    The Hegh'ta would work for this if they would tweak it a bit, give it stats close to a Dhelan and it would be a very solid destroyer-class BOP, leaving the others to cover the frigate and escort weights
    I'd fly it.
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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    K'vort? Bah! Lets go the whole hog and bring in the 600m long bops seen in TNG! :P


    I must admit, the KDF does need some ship-shaped loving.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    captainoblivous wrote: »
    K'vort? Bah! Lets go the whole hog and bring in the 600m long bops seen in TNG! :P


    I must admit, the KDF does need some ship-shaped loving.

    You mean the ones that looked like they were 600 meters.

    http://www.suricatafx.com/?p=274

    It's a proven fact that the scene would not have worked with 600 meter tall ships.
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    You mean the ones that looked like they were 600 meters.

    http://www.suricatafx.com/?p=274

    It's a proven fact that the scene would not have worked with 600 meter long ships.

    Party pooper :P

    But who the heck wouldn't want a 600m long bop?
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    captainoblivous wrote: »
    Party pooper :P

    But who the heck wouldn't want a 600m long bop?

    Someone with a very small garage...?:P
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Someone with a very small garage...?:P

    I can see it now, it would be marketed as the "ultimate mid-life crisis boat"!
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    captainoblivous wrote: »
    I can see it now, it would be marketed as the "ultimate mid-life crisis boat"!

    "Here, buy this ship. It has an extra-high fuel consumption of 15,000 gallons per light year just so it can leave a bigger power signature to intimidate others. It also has very big wings with very big guns to compensate for any and all shortcomings you may have.":cool:
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    hawke89305092 wrote: »
    If the official stance on this is that it's not going to happen because it's an oversized B'Rel...

    You might want to not reference it in the game. :rolleyes:

    That being said that is one of three reasons the STO team will not make the k'vort.

    #1. Oversized B'rel

    #2. Its for the minority (The KDF)

    #3. The next KDF ship is currently scheduled to be released 2 years after the mogh was released.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I would just be happy with a MU BoP in the next box, Hegh-ta stats, B'rel hull, and allows you to use the mirror skin on a B'rel if you own one.

    Looks like a B'rel but no Battlecloak. Then Release a Fleet Hegh-ta, call that a K'vort, and let it use the B'rel style hull if you have unlocked the MU BoP.
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  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I would buy a bop kvort cruiser/destroyer as well. I've always liked the look of bops but disliked the escort style of game play so a destroyer bop would fit exactly what I want. Give it commander engineer, 2 universal ensigns, universal Lt., and universal Lt. commander. Give it around 36k hull, comparable to the Veteran destroyer, with a battle cloak and turn rate of 12. Lastly, give it a unique 2409 skin that is minimalistic but instills fear as well.
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  • kestrelliuskestrellius Member Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    knuhteb5 wrote: »
    I would buy a bop kvort cruiser/destroyer as well. I've always liked the look of bops but disliked the escort style of game play so a destroyer bop would fit exactly what I want. Give it commander engineer, 2 universal ensigns, universal Lt., and universal Lt. commander. Give it around 36k hull, comparable to the Veteran destroyer, with a battle cloak and turn rate of 12. Lastly, give it a unique 2409 skin that is minimalistic but instills fear as well.

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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    kestrellius wrote: »
    Heretic! Traitor! Don't you know you're not allowed to like one aspect of gameplay but not another? If you want to fly a destroyer, you have to play Fed! Regardless of how much you might not like playing Fed!

    I didn't know the first destroyer in the game (the Guramba) was a Federation starship.;)
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