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Yautja lockbox?

notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Ten Forward
There has been some "wishes" about borg lockbox, and a "wish" for a flyable borg cube. Would it be wrong to "wish" for Yautja motherships or scout ship?

Ok, forget everything..how about a Xenomorph pet?
or assimilated Xenomorph Queen



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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Not sure, are Predators or Xenomorphs part of the STO canon like Undine or Borg?
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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    Not sure, are Predators or Xenomorphs part of the STO canon like Undine or Borg?

    There you go:

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  • hunteralpha84hunteralpha84 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    notapwefan wrote: »
    There you go:

    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/AlienArt/Xenoborg.jpg

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  • causalityeffectcausalityeffect Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The hirogen are Star Trek's rip off of the Yatuja.

    As for the xenomorphs - Voyager tried to rip off Aliens with that Macrovirus episode and Janeway going Ripley more than once.


    Xenomorphs would not work in this game. Star Trek would slaughter them wholesale with a blink of an eye unless you take so many liberties it becomes just as stupid as most of the Alien films.
    Predators, might work but they will just end up being the same as the Hirogen. Good luck trying to get either of these races in the game when it would require hilarious amounts of gore.

    Putting them in without people getting chestbusters or their heads cut off is just a lame implementation.
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  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,790 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    notapwefan wrote: »
    Ok, forget everything..how about a Xenomorph pet?
    or assimilated Xenomorph Queen




    You don't want a Xenomorph on your ship. It'll wipe out your entire crew in under twenty-four hours.


    causalityeffect wrote: »
    Xenomorphs would not work in this game. Star Trek would slaughter them wholesale with a blink of an eye unless you take so many liberties it becomes just as stupid as most of the Alien films.


    Don't underestimate the Xenos. They can be sly little serpents. Besides, they don't show up on sensors, remember? AND Trek ships are full'ah crawl spaces.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jslyn wrote: »
    Don't underestimate the Xenos. They can be sly little serpents. Besides, they don't show up on sensors, remember? AND Trek ships are full'ah crawl spaces.
    They show up on sensors. The hand-held motion tracker and the automatic turrets were able to track them just fine.

    The motion trackers just sucked because of their low range - by the time you detect them, they are already on you. Tricorder range tends to be a lot higher.

    Man, if only someone would make another Alien vs. Predator game in good.

    Aboard a Starfleet vessel, where you can monitor and shield off pretty much any location (even the jeffries tubes), they wouldn't last all that long.
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  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,790 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    No the only idiots are the people who think Xeno's wouldn't kick butt.



    Indeed. People tend to forget that Xenos are intelligent because they tend to work without tools. They have been shown to understand speech and operate human machinery with ease.

    Here is to hoping that the Q are immune to facehuggers.
  • latiasracerlatiasracer Member Posts: 680 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'm up for this if the [M41A Pulse Rifle][Dmg x3] is added to the Lobi store!
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    Yeah motion trackers not life signs. Xeno's have the biological ability to mask themselves from sensors just like that ex soldier was able to do while on the Enterprise on that TNG episode.
    Don't remember all t his talk about sensor masking ability from the movies. They didn't seem to have any of the techno-babble stuff that Startrek is famous for to detect lifeforms.

    And if you talk about additional sources - well, in the Alien vs Predator game, Predators had special sight modes that also allowed detecting Aliens. So I think we got everything covered.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Well we did get Collector Armor
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Is this a thread about requesting a race or item in Star Trek that is not part of the Star Trek franchise?

    Really?
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    johngazman wrote: »
    Is this a thread about requesting a race or item in Star Trek that is not part of the Star Trek franchise?

    Really?

    I blame you. You could have made an interesting and insightful topic, but you didn't, so all we had to reply to was this post. ;)
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Nausicaans were based on the Predators

    And Elite Force 2 had Xenomorph ish
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    notapwefan wrote: »
    There has been some "wishes" about borg lockbox, and a "wish" for a flyable borg cube. Would it be wrong to "wish" for Yautja motherships or scout ship?

    Ok, forget everything..how about a Xenomorph pet?
    or assimilated Xenomorph Queen



    :D

    You are wrong. There are no wishes, just supositions. I do not wish to have a borg lockbox, but i know we will, so its just a question of when. Honestly, i dont want any more lockboxes, im pissed and tired of em. Specially the idiotic ones , like the last undine one.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    I blame you. You could have made an interesting and insightful topic, but you didn't, so all we had to reply to was this post. ;)

    Maybe.

    Maybe OP could have engaged his noggin' before posting. STO has enough trouble getting the green light to use things from it's own franchise, let alone someone else's.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    But it's so much fun poking holes in the trekkies defensive arguments. :P
    Bah, Xenos would get slaughtered by Star Trek weapons and you know it. :P
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,405 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Just give us a Xindi box with biorifles, starships and a 800-lobi superweapon, that'd beat any Borg/Xenomorph/Yautja/Q/Dev lockbox. :P
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  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Last time I checked, the Xenomorphs (and Yautja) aren't a part of the authorized material STO can use in the game. It would be a violation of ... the ToS or the EULA, not sure which, for Cryptic to put these into the game.

    In other words, if you really want this in the game, talk to CBS, which is the company putting restrictions on what Cryptic can produce and use in STO. Posting anything here is moot.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    notapwefan wrote: »
    Yautja
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  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    It'd be a violation of trademark/copyright laws.

    Exactly. It's the same reason why we haven't seen the JJprise or Star Wars ships or the Andromeda Ascendant. All of them are not a part of the authorized list that is drafted up by CBS and placed either in the EULA or the ToS. (JJprise is Trek, yes, but it falls under Paramount's jurisdiction.)
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  • chrisbrown12009chrisbrown12009 Member Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Since this has turned into a star trek universe versus AvP universe i will say star fleet WILL get owned however, the klingons would save us. Why? The kdf went all jihad on TRIBBLES. And theyre harmless.a xeno v klingon war would be the most epic fight in scifi history.
  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    chrisbrown12009 wrote: »
    Since this has turned into a star trek universe versus AvP universe

    No it hasn't. STO, with the exception of the Synchronic-Proton *cough* Ghostbusters *cough* gun, is pretty much Trek-only.
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  • causalityeffectcausalityeffect Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Xenomorphs would not survive and their intelligence is heavily reliant on plot. They only become a threat in mass numbers against enemies who are dumb, clueless or weakened. They are NOT immune to detection, where the hell that came from I do not know.

    Facehuggers - The medical technology of Star Trek should be more than capable of removing a facehugger and stopping a chest buster. Acid is not an issue with forcefields and you could have a holographic doctor handle the thing so it cant do any harm. Even if nothing can be done for the victim, a forcefield will keep a chestbuster contained long enough to kill it.
    That is even assuming it gets that far to actually chest bust.

    So... since the Facehuggers are eliminated no other xenos can be made.

    Between forcefield technology, better sensors and heavier firepower that can vaporise targets or wide beam attacks. The Xenos have no chance without plot hand holding.

    Which anyone with a brain would have seen since every movie with Xenos literally requires them to be handheld through it.
    Movie 1: The android was shielding the Xeno AND it was fighting poorly civilians
    Movie 2: The marines lose all of their equipment because of plot and plot ticking clock.
    Movie 3: Unarmed prisoners
    Movie 4: Poorly armed scientists and plot ticking clock.

    AVP 1 - Poorly armed civilians and the soldiers get wasted by the Predators more than any alien.
    AVP 2 - Poorly armed civilians and the aliens are being held off until the nuke gets dropped

    Games - Taking them as evidence of anything is just desperation.

    The pattern should be fairly obvious: Xenos are only a threat to the unprepared and unarmed. Much like zombies.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    stardestroyer001 wrote: »
    No it hasn't. STO, with the exception of the Synchronic-Proton *cough* Ghostbusters *cough* gun, is pretty much Trek-only.

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    The alien/predator movies are more realistic and believable and thus didn't focus on techno-babble nonsense that Star Trek writers rely on to justify the Mcguffins they create to fill gaping plotholes and TRIBBLE-poor writing. :rolleyes:
    Argueably something that killed the franchise on TV eventually. At least when it wasn't poorly written characters.
    Yes the citizens of the Federation all walk around in combat body armor with HUD's that offer multiple spectrum's of visual displays. :rolleyes:

    Xeno's win. Star Trek loses. :P
    No, but Starfleet officers have tricorders, and all types of ships seem to have decent internal and external sensors. (I am not sure if they also all have as many force fields as Starfleet ships have).

    Calling the next Starfleet ship for help seems standard practice. Just think of the Horta problem...

    And the Federation has one key advantage that helps even when all sensors are offline - their places are usually well-lit. :)
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Getting back to the original topic, the really sad part? It would make about as much sense as the frakking Nicor.

    Of course, as shpoks is fond of saying, at this point a Nimbus 2000 would make more sense.
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    stardestroyer001 wrote: »
    No it hasn't. STO, with the exception of the Synchronic-Proton *cough* Ghostbusters *cough* gun, is pretty much Trek-only.

    LOL. I wish that could be true..
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    Oh yes, every single sapient being in the Star Trek universe is a Star Fleet officer with a tricorder. There are no civilians anywhere. Everyone is military and lives under the tightest security conditions imaginable. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    Every time they enter or leave a room/building they must verify their retinal scans, voice analysis, fingerprints, DNA, as well as urine and stool samples, and then go thru rigid decontamination procedures. :rolleyes:

    Xeno's win. Star Trek loses. :P

    No, but every single Federation planet has access to Starfleet. If a threat like this came up, they would start their job and contain the threat. Sure, people will die, but the threat is ultimately containable.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    The only way they could get into the Star Trek universe is by way of Q and you know he wouldn't make them easy to kill. That just wouldn't be any fun for Q to watch. :rolleyes:
    Possibly, but as a counterpoint, Q isn't the sort of being to kill off a planetary population for amusement. his antics are typically non-fatal.

    Yautja toys would make fun kit modules. Especially the invisible noose trick. :D
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  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Since this is clearly a "What-If?" cross-universe kind of thread, I have moved it to Ten Forward.

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