RSP is like an invincibility button with the scimi. With RSP1, RSP2, and sec shields I can solo a tac cube with full power to weps without dying in a mostly non-elite build.
Aux2Bat is a crutch for weak pilots. Eng team is the single best hull heal from boffs, even at level 1.
FAW draws aggro like U wouldn't believe. DHC spam with 2-piece bonus and a couple elite fleet RCS accelerators is king.
DEM is UP, better to just blast shields away while getting hull dmg procs with protonic polarons.
Adapted MACO/KHG resilient shields are practically invincible, better than elite fleet IMHO.
So I call BS on your entire post.
Wow... I'm just beginning to read this thread and I was like "yeah I'm not gonna post in this" but then I saw the utter stupidity of this and now I just want you to do an ISE with me just because I want to prove you wrong.
Everything he said is correct, DHCs suck, RSP is good but not needed because the Valdore makes you invincible anyway and DEM + marion is almost 10k dps alone. Adapted MACO is good, but elite shield + elite deflector + rommie engines is better (even though with the fresh undine rep the undine deflector *might* be better than the elite deflector, but just maybe).
One day Cryptic will be free from their Perfect World overlord. Until that day comes, they will continue to pamper the whales of this game, and ignore everyone that isn't a whale.
Wow... I'm just beginning to read this thread and I was like "yeah I'm not gonna post in this" but then I saw the utter stupidity of this and now I just want you to do an ISE with me just because I want to prove you wrong.
Everything he said is correct, DHCs suck, RSP is good but not needed because the Valdore makes you invincible anyway and DEM + marion is almost 10k dps alone. Adapted MACO is good, but elite shield + elite deflector + rommie engines is better (even though with the fresh undine rep the undine deflector *might* be better than the elite deflector, but just maybe).
Look, dude, with a PUG a DHC scimitar with the build I suggested outperforms all but the most elite FAWmitards. Maybe you can do FAW with a team who knows what the hell they're doing, but with the average crew of losers who warp into a PUG and immediately shoot at the gate, a DHC scimi is the only thing with enough spike damage to quickly kill the baddies.
Look, dude, with a PUG a DHC scimitar with the build I suggested outperforms all but the most elite FAWmitards. Maybe you can do FAW with a team who knows what the hell they're doing, but with the average crew of losers who warp into a PUG and immediately shoot at the gate, a DHC scimi is the only thing with enough spike damage to quickly kill the baddies.
Wow I know DHC are good but a week built FAW3 Scimitar can destroy the spheres coming put of the gate fast than the rest of most pug teams can get the transformer down. This is not to be mean, but a FAW scimitar can handle one side of an ISE by themselves. While I like to fly cannons because it is more difficult to stay on target and yes my DPS suffers, it is just fun so I do it. I have to question do you know game mechanics.
This is how it works per cannons. Scatter volley three in buffed, most people use to because you get more bang for the buck buffing CSV2 with ApB3. Either way
SV1=15% damage increase to your target
SV2=20%
SV3=25%
This is to all enemies in your 45 degree cone.
FAW works like this.
Faw1 is a 25% damage increase to target
Faw2 is 32% damage increase to target
Faw3 is 40% damage increase to target
Each round of FAW hits five times at two random targets, then times that by the amount of beams available. Which is usually 7 because most people use the Borg cutting beam.
You still have to compensate for power drain but the sure power of FAW and the way weapons overcapping seems to work allows the FAW scimitar to do more attacks per ten second period than that of a DHC scimitar. That is where the DPS comes in. It all has to do with over capping weapons power, the 15% more damage FAW3 does than CSV3, and the amount of attacks it gets to a certain amount of targets.
The down fall of FAW is the more target the more your beams hit different targets. This will still have high DPS numbers but not get the results you could get with locking down to one target. There is a target thresh hold versus time to kill. Basically the more target you have the more time it is going to take to get one target down using FAW. You have no control of what beam is attacking what target, except to fly your self into position to reduce the amount of targets available to spam FAW.
This is why some scimitars sue dual beam banks to force most of there DPS to a certain direction.
So basically, the problem with my previous FAW builds is that I didn't have this expensive doff or the Borg cutting beam or elite dual beam banks?
Huh. DBBs would do nearly as much damage, and they'd definitely have less of a power drain penalty...
While I would not claim to know what you are doing. I can claim that FAW is superior in some fashions where DHC are better in others. But if you can get FAW3 and limit your amount of possible targets to 5-7 you can out perform DHCs. FAW suffers more the more target you get. It is new use of the arc. By limiting you target it forces all you beams to those certain targets.
A good example is NWS. I play with DHC because all of my enemies that I am responsible for is up front. This allows me to focus my dps there. I tried with beam arrays and FAW and because there are targets to the left and right of you that are still in your array arc you can rely on you dps to be true to your front of responsibility. DBBs might allow this to be more true.
While I would not claim to know what you are doing. I can claim that FAW is superior in some fashions where DHC are better in others. But if you can get FAW3 and limit your amount of possible targets to 5-7 you can out perform DHCs. FAW suffers more the more target you get. It is new use of the arc. By limiting you target it forces all you beams to those certain targets.
A good example is NWS. I play with DHC because all of my enemies that I am responsible for is up front. This allows me to focus my dps there. I tried with beam arrays and FAW and because there are targets to the left and right of you that are still in your array arc you can rely on you dps to be true to your front of responsibility. DBBs might allow this to be more true.
Yeah, the one time I did NWS (in a FAW boat on my Fed, Sovvie IIRC), I couldn't get enough DPS and had to get support from the rest of the team (who were none too happy about having to divert and help me). Given the way that thing works, I bet my scimi would lay waste to it. Especially with my Valdore console and various damage boosts.
Yeah, the one time I did NWS (in a FAW boat on my Fed, Sovvie IIRC), I couldn't get enough DPS and had to get support from the rest of the team (who were none too happy about having to divert and help me). Given the way that thing works, I bet my scimi would lay waste to it. Especially with my Valdore console and various damage boosts.
This is my NWS hyb NWS build. I only run one copy of aux to bat but it works great for this NWS win.
Interesting. I use EPTW2 on my cannon scimi; works a little better than Aux2Bat, especially when I've got RSP, ST, EPTS, the Valdore console, and the Solanae set to keep my shields high.
On that note, I've noticed that the Solane set is GREAT for survivability, and it ENCOURAGES you to attack as often as possible (that hull integrity leech thingy).
Thanks for the tips! I can't wait to thrash NWS...
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Wow... I'm just beginning to read this thread and I was like "yeah I'm not gonna post in this" but then I saw the utter stupidity of this and now I just want you to do an ISE with me just because I want to prove you wrong.
Everything he said is correct, DHCs suck, RSP is good but not needed because the Valdore makes you invincible anyway and DEM + marion is almost 10k dps alone. Adapted MACO is good, but elite shield + elite deflector + rommie engines is better (even though with the fresh undine rep the undine deflector *might* be better than the elite deflector, but just maybe).
ELITE STF SPEED RECORDS (time on optional remaining):
S07: KASE: 12:54 | CSE: 13:20 | ISE: 12:38 All held personally, my POV
LOR: KASE: 13:19 | CSE: 13:47 | ISE: 13:34 None held personally, other player's POV
S08: coming soon
Look, dude, with a PUG a DHC scimitar with the build I suggested outperforms all but the most elite FAWmitards. Maybe you can do FAW with a team who knows what the hell they're doing, but with the average crew of losers who warp into a PUG and immediately shoot at the gate, a DHC scimi is the only thing with enough spike damage to quickly kill the baddies.
Wow I know DHC are good but a week built FAW3 Scimitar can destroy the spheres coming put of the gate fast than the rest of most pug teams can get the transformer down. This is not to be mean, but a FAW scimitar can handle one side of an ISE by themselves. While I like to fly cannons because it is more difficult to stay on target and yes my DPS suffers, it is just fun so I do it. I have to question do you know game mechanics.
This is how it works per cannons. Scatter volley three in buffed, most people use to because you get more bang for the buck buffing CSV2 with ApB3. Either way
SV1=15% damage increase to your target
SV2=20%
SV3=25%
This is to all enemies in your 45 degree cone.
FAW works like this.
Faw1 is a 25% damage increase to target
Faw2 is 32% damage increase to target
Faw3 is 40% damage increase to target
Each round of FAW hits five times at two random targets, then times that by the amount of beams available. Which is usually 7 because most people use the Borg cutting beam.
You still have to compensate for power drain but the sure power of FAW and the way weapons overcapping seems to work allows the FAW scimitar to do more attacks per ten second period than that of a DHC scimitar. That is where the DPS comes in. It all has to do with over capping weapons power, the 15% more damage FAW3 does than CSV3, and the amount of attacks it gets to a certain amount of targets.
The down fall of FAW is the more target the more your beams hit different targets. This will still have high DPS numbers but not get the results you could get with locking down to one target. There is a target thresh hold versus time to kill. Basically the more target you have the more time it is going to take to get one target down using FAW. You have no control of what beam is attacking what target, except to fly your self into position to reduce the amount of targets available to spam FAW.
This is why some scimitars sue dual beam banks to force most of there DPS to a certain direction.
Huh. DBBs would do nearly as much damage, and they'd definitely have less of a power drain penalty...
While I would not claim to know what you are doing. I can claim that FAW is superior in some fashions where DHC are better in others. But if you can get FAW3 and limit your amount of possible targets to 5-7 you can out perform DHCs. FAW suffers more the more target you get. It is new use of the arc. By limiting you target it forces all you beams to those certain targets.
A good example is NWS. I play with DHC because all of my enemies that I am responsible for is up front. This allows me to focus my dps there. I tried with beam arrays and FAW and because there are targets to the left and right of you that are still in your array arc you can rely on you dps to be true to your front of responsibility. DBBs might allow this to be more true.
Yeah, the one time I did NWS (in a FAW boat on my Fed, Sovvie IIRC), I couldn't get enough DPS and had to get support from the rest of the team (who were none too happy about having to divert and help me). Given the way that thing works, I bet my scimi would lay waste to it. Especially with my Valdore console and various damage boosts.
This... probably another dem/faw/aux2batt spamming scimitar at that.
This is my NWS hyb NWS build. I only run one copy of aux to bat but it works great for this NWS win.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aN2eacFHxAg
This is a cannon build, and I am not running DEM.
Interesting. I use EPTW2 on my cannon scimi; works a little better than Aux2Bat, especially when I've got RSP, ST, EPTS, the Valdore console, and the Solanae set to keep my shields high.
On that note, I've noticed that the Solane set is GREAT for survivability, and it ENCOURAGES you to attack as often as possible (that hull integrity leech thingy).
Thanks for the tips! I can't wait to thrash NWS...