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So, how do I get Omega set gear after s9?
iamynaught
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I knew about the changes to the rep system since they told us about them last month, but I guess this just never dawned on me until yesterday while I was looking over the new rep stuff.
Since Omega set items require a specific ingredient (Borg Neural Processors) to craft the gear, and those items are only available as rewards for playing elite level content, there's now no way to get Omega items unless you do the elite content.
(To a lesser extent, Dyson and the new Undine rep suffer from the same problem, but they do offer a way to get their unique items through participating in the open battlezone events.)
Now, I understand that a lot of players (most?) find the Borg stuff easy to do, even at the elite level. However, there are some people who are not as good at doing content like this, either due to time or possibly a physical limitation.
In Season 8, I could just save up marks and dil and get me a set of mk XI gear and call it good. Some people even said that was the way to go, if you're not a "power gamer", which I personally am not. Now in Season 9, I have to do elite content that I've never felt comfortable doing, due to RL concerns, in order to get the same gear on alts.
That just seems odd to me.
Couldn't there be a way to open up these special items (BNP's, Voth Cybernetic Implants and Isomorphic Injections) to players who do "Normal" level content? Maybe double the rewards for Elite and allow Normal to give one of these pieces?
Perhaps I'm just "stuck" getting Nukara and Romulan rep from now on, since those rep projects don't take anything special in order to craft their set pieces.
I get that the rep system is supposed to be more challenging, I'm not asking that the content be made easier. Just maybe there is a way to allow those of lesser skill/ability to progress instead of forcing Elite level content on them.
Since Omega set items require a specific ingredient (Borg Neural Processors) to craft the gear, and those items are only available as rewards for playing elite level content, there's now no way to get Omega items unless you do the elite content.
(To a lesser extent, Dyson and the new Undine rep suffer from the same problem, but they do offer a way to get their unique items through participating in the open battlezone events.)
Now, I understand that a lot of players (most?) find the Borg stuff easy to do, even at the elite level. However, there are some people who are not as good at doing content like this, either due to time or possibly a physical limitation.
In Season 8, I could just save up marks and dil and get me a set of mk XI gear and call it good. Some people even said that was the way to go, if you're not a "power gamer", which I personally am not. Now in Season 9, I have to do elite content that I've never felt comfortable doing, due to RL concerns, in order to get the same gear on alts.
That just seems odd to me.
Couldn't there be a way to open up these special items (BNP's, Voth Cybernetic Implants and Isomorphic Injections) to players who do "Normal" level content? Maybe double the rewards for Elite and allow Normal to give one of these pieces?
Perhaps I'm just "stuck" getting Nukara and Romulan rep from now on, since those rep projects don't take anything special in order to craft their set pieces.
I get that the rep system is supposed to be more challenging, I'm not asking that the content be made easier. Just maybe there is a way to allow those of lesser skill/ability to progress instead of forcing Elite level content on them.
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Aside -- you really do not have to be uber to run elite content. One of the biggest things you can do here is simply to understand your defensive/survival BO skills such as tactical team or haz emitters and shield/hull heals etc. If you can stay alive, even piddly dps will eventually win most of the elite content. High dps can help meet bonus goals but success just takes a little bit of common sense and teamwork coupled with decent durability.
But the chances of getting a BNP from non-elite play are somewhat slim; I've received less than 10 BNPs that way, and I played non-Elite almost exclusively for more than a year. That's less than one BNP per month, playing non-Elite three or more times most days. So, maybe around 1-2% chance by my estimates, and based on recall only.
Play Infected Space Elite only as you can't fail and it's pretty much always steamrolled. Go fourth and mash spacebar (or some other button), even Steven Hawking can do that. Congratulations, you have just won all PvE Elite content.
You actually do not a lot of high end gear to do elite STF. Both my Fed and KDF toons are perfect examples. I have more or less ignored the main story missions from the very start. I have only recently completed the Temporal Ambassador mission and both toons have been level 50 for at least 7 weeks. The Wasteland missions story arc is next so that is very early in the game so to speak.
The weapons I use are nothing special, I use Phaser Beam Arrays Mk XI (Fed) and Plasma-Disruptor Hybrid Dual Heavy Cannons Mk XI (KDF). Those weapons from the "Everything Old Is New" and "Second Star To Right..." which is around missions 14- 16. Most other equipment are either dropped loot or pieces i bought from the Exchange which I spent at most 200k Ec (much less in most cases). The only exceptions are probably shields and the deflector which is from the "A Step Between Stars" featured episode back in February which I played again to get the Mk XI versions.
Additionally, my Bridge Officer abilities are not optimized yet. For example, I have not promoted my Engineer to Cmdr yet so I am missing an engineering ability. Additionally, I have not slotted any Duty Officers yet to augment any of my space / ground abilities.
Therefore, it is possible to complete elite STF without having the best equipment and even with an un-optimized crew. You just need to develop a strategy and learn from mistakes. Know when to fight and when to run away to repair hull damage / regenerate shields.
Dying in STO is a learning experience. At worse you are temporarily penalized since dying in an elite STF will cause damage to your ship. But that can be repaired at any star base for no cost.
you get a FREE space set for doing this mission
search betwen the stars i believe
then go do elite stfs
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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Khitomer: Vortex increases the difficulty a little bit because it requires a bit of coordination, and there are 5 Borg Cubes you must fight; one at a time. Bad coordination / stupidity can mean 4 cubes will be on the battlefield at once.
The Cure Found Elite requires a bit more coordination and I find this mission to be somewhat frustrating because people generally do not stick around to heal the IKS Kang. Doing this mission with others who knows what they are doing is recommended. You don't necessarily need to join a fleet to coordinate with other players, but it helps.
Hive Onslaught is by far the most difficult... well at least for me. I think it would be best to do this with fleetmates if you are in a fleet (I am not) since it does require coordination. Since I simply queue up this elite SFT I play with random people and it generally does not end well. I play this mission the least.
If people need to heal the kang you're doing it the hard way, there's two commonly accepted tactics i've seen, RRMMLL(just full wipe) with a single ship intercepting spawns from where the group isn't(farily simple tactic very popular with escort pilots as it just relies on having lots of pow) and splitting into 3 groups to deal with the cubes pseudo simultaneously, requires a fair division of firepower and works pretty well with carriers(haven't tried it post S9 with my voquv yet but I'm sure I will soon enough) either way, nothing should ever touch the kang
I've got to agree, removing the Mk X and XI equipment is a not-so-subtle way to mess with casual players by rather blatently taking something that they could have gotten playing on their own away and trying to tell us "Well, this is the more powerful set anyway, and we're going to GIVE you the costume unlocks from those other sets when you get this one, so just deal with the fact that now getting YOUR set depends on four OTHER people as well."
Honestly, I find it somewhat insulting.
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
It's just bad for everyone already stuck with lower tier "subsets". But at least for the future - you can "dip" into the sets and get Mark XII gear for it, and grab a set bonus, and if you later decide to go all in and bring your character to max, you won't have wasted any marks on gear that turns into vendor trash for you. (Though the old sets are at least very expensive vendor trash.)
I wasn't trapped into buying a lower tier set, I actively chose to get the MK XI 2pc Borg and Maco shield. I read up on them and decided the MK XI set is more that adequate for my general play style. I didn't get the Borg set for the heal I went for the deflector for the boost to sci skills, the engine for faster sector space travel, and the Maco shield has enough for me. I got 10 BNPs for completing the teir 5 rep I could have gotten the MK XII two piece Borg, but decided it wasn't worth it for me.
Again or the ground set. I only do the Deferi invasion so the XI one is more than adequate for my needs.
The same for other reps. I bought the Rommy MK XI plasma ship weapons again after looking into them. The MK XII weapons only had a minor boost for a larger price. I haven't bought a single Voth weapon as they are not worth the dil, I might have spent the dil on the MK XI weapons if they were available and built my Oddy around them for the Voth sphere missions.
Where advice on STFs is concerned it always seems to pop up when there are people who don't want to do STFs, and so are happy to settle for the lower tier gear. However there are some of us who will not go in because we don't have the confidence and don't want to balls it up for the rest of the group. Yes such consideration is rare. Also some of don't want the drama. The advice here says go for the elite, yet look elsewhere and you will see threads asking for ways to keep "noobs" and low geared players out of elites.
If you really want the Omega gear, do the normals and hope to get the Neural Processors to drop, or keep running the projects that give you the loot crates and hope you get lucky that way.
But imagine you started reputations with the current system. You are not stuck with old ones, you can, as you level up in the reputation, earn pieces of the set. If you just want the 2-piece bonus (common for the Borg set for example), you can stop advancing the reputation all together at Tier 2 or 3. You got decent Mark XII gear that won't become obsolete, and if you choose to later advance the reputation further, you can do so without ever being in a situation where you need to consider abandoning the previous investment.
The design is overal just better, and might have been better off this way from the start. Unfortunately it wasn't, and now some players are stuck with having "subsets" of lower tiers they can never complete.
Part of the problem is it goes against their reasoning for the change in the rep passives. They did what they did to start reigning in power creep, yet they get rid of the lower tier gear and so only leave the most "powerful" thus increasing power creep in this area.
None of the other sets appealed to me. I didn't do the reps for the passives but for the gear, and so chose the ones that interested me that's why I pretty much left Nakura alone.
I'm also a fan of the new system, as it make getting the Sets and Unlocks on 'noobs' and Alts way friendlier ... However,
One thing I AM pished about, is that one of my alts had some Omega XI projects running when they brought in the changes, and due to the fact that I had already put quite a lot of Dil, EC, and Marks into them, I'm annoyed that I can no longer complete the sets.
What I'd like to see, is for the Mk X and/or XI stuff introduced back into the game as optional 'Replay Rewards" for content specific missions ... So the Borg missions could give you the option of XI Omega gear if you already have pieces of that set, or X if you don't. AYou could then, through mission replay, outfit your BoFF's in Omega/KHG gear, without spending a fortune on full XII sets.
You should give them a try, though. If you can do them on normal, there shouldn't be any reason why the "elite" version would stop you. If you can run CE normal, any of the new FEs, any normal Undine or Voth queue events, you should be fine as well.
If you're really unsure about it, just tell the people in your PUG before you start the game that you're new to the elite content. You'll most likely not recieve an answer and just get dragged along.
Seems to me that the NPs should drop on all borg content to greater or lesser degrees. Otherwise why bother with the other content? Having drops from all areas would allow everyone a change to play the way they want and stilll pick Elites for better efficiency.