Anyone flying one of these abominations is assumed to be an Undine infiltrator and will be treated accordingly.
I will not heal or help anyone in one of these wretched things.
I may even just leave fleet actions where they turn up and eat the penalty.
Agreed. The ****ing tripod lovers can fend for their own damn selves. I did not just spend an hour blasting Undine back to the Stone Age to then turn around and fly alongside one.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
The Dromias to me is a beefed up KDF Fleet K'T'Inga. The latter is a tremendously well handling Battlecruiser, but straddled by being Cmdr/LtCdr heavy ship. With a Universal station, I would make the K'T'Inga shine alot more.
The Dromias would be the result of that change, statistics-wise.
Well again looking at the stats, I think this is a hell of a cruiser. Just about everything about it looks great including its turn speed and general mobility.....but so, so ugly.
I do like the Nicor though and am thinking very, very strongly about buying one if they ever come down into the 90 million range.
I put a tactical KDF-aligned Romulan on the Nicor and an engineering Fed character on the Dromias.
I's nice that the Nicor has an alternative skin (Daectylus). Would be nice if the Dromias had one too, I feel like flying the ship backwards.
Good choice, ill probably put the Nicor on one of my Tac characters, but its a real shame that Dromias doesn't have an alternative skin, I badly needs one!
The Dromias is the best battle cruiser in the game, hands down. It is unrivaled in that no other batttle cruiser matches it's turn-rate, hull points, and boff seating without making significant sacrifices in 1 or 2 of those categories. The Fleet negh'var, fleet k'tinga, and fleet torkhat are made obsolete by this cruiser. The lock box box cruisers like the d'kora, galor, and monbosh are also obsolete when you compare them to this ship. Luckily, the scimitar remains competitive with the dromias but barely. If it wasn't for the battlecloak, secondary shields, and 5 forward weapons, the scimitar would have been left in the dust already.
TBH, I would like the Cryptic developer in charge of coming up with the stats for the undine ships to justify his decision to make every other battle cruiser (except for the scimitar) obsolete with these kinds of OP stats. What in the world were you thinking!?
Well again looking at the stats, I think this is a hell of a cruiser. Just about everything about it looks great including its turn speed and general mobility.....but so, so ugly.
I do like the Nicor though and am thinking very, very strongly about buying one if they ever come down into the 90 million range.
Yeah i am also planning to buy the Nicor when it comes to that range. But i have a feeling that someone is driving up the price. I cant remember when a lockbox ship was staying so long in the 200m ec range.
Why are you even on this thread? The OP made this post to help those who were interested in each ship learn the basics of them. If you don't want to fly one then why do you even care if someone made a video about them?
Why are you even on this thread? The OP made this post to help those who were interested in each ship learn the basics of them. If you don't want to fly one then why do you even care if someone made a video about them?
Because they don't belong in the game and making the video only validates Craptic's utter bollocking stupidity.
Is that a good enough reason?
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Because they don't belong in the game and making the video only validates Craptic's utter bollocking stupidity.
Is that a good enough reason?
No, that's a pretty bad reason. That suggests trolling. This thread really is about a review of an in-game asset. If you want to go on a crusade about why that asset was made, you can do so in a different thread.
No, that's a pretty bad reason. That suggests trolling. This thread really is about a review of an in-game asset. If you want to go on a crusade about why that asset was made, you can do so in a different thread.
You know, people need to just stop using the word "trolling" unless they're specifically referring to somebody trying to TRIBBLE people off for their own amusement. Do I seem particularly amused to you?
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
You know, people need to just stop using the word "trolling" unless they're specifically referring to somebody trying to TRIBBLE people off for their own amusement. Do I seem particularly amused to you?
No. but your are amusing:)
Looking forward to getting the Nicor and thanks OP for the time you took to make a good review.
I'm going to put this in the nicest way possible ...
I've tried to read up on these ships and the information about what they're like, how they fly and what players who have them are experiencing with them. In three separate threads.
And each one has been derailed by you and a few others.
So I have to sift through dozens of posts about your dislike of them, just to find the information I'm looking for.
In the other two threads, it's still annoying and a headache for me. But those threads aren't specifically a review of the ship and how it handles.
This thread though?
So yeah, it IS trolling.
And could you just please do me a small favor and keep it out of this thread? There's the other two you can do that in.
If your intent is to post that you don't like that the ships were even made, you've done that already! I get it. Everyone else who's read your previous posts gets it. You made your point.
Could you please just let it go? In this thread? The OP has already stated they're going to do up a video review of the Nicor next. Which is something I really want to view and then discuss. Could you please just contain your ire into the GNN announcement thread? It just has no place here and you've already made your point anyways. At this point? You're trolling the people who come here looking for information about the ships.
I'm going to put this in the nicest way possible ...
I've tried to read up on these ships and the information about what they're like, how they fly and what players who have them are experiencing with them. In three separate threads.
And each one has been derailed by you and a few others.
So I have to sift through dozens of posts about your dislike of them, just to find the information I'm looking for.
In the other two threads, it's still annoying and a headache for me. But those threads aren't specifically a review of the ship and how it handles.
This thread though?
So yeah, it IS trolling.
And could you just please do me a small favor and keep it out of this thread? There's the other two you can do that in.
If your intent is to post that you don't like that the ships were even made, you've done that already! I get it. Everyone else who's read your previous posts gets it. You made your point.
Could you please just let it go? In this thread? The OP has already stated they're going to do up a video review of the Nicor next. Which is something I really want to view and then discuss. Could you please just contain your ire into the GNN announcement thread? It just has no place here and you've already made your point anyways. At this point? You're trolling the people who come here looking for information about the ships.
Yeah I will be making a Nicor review as soon as I get the ship. And thank you for saying that its a good review. It mans a lot to me.But also I don't understand why post in a thread that's about a ship you it seems really don't like. Maybe it just me.
But again everyone has a right to their opinion.
It's honestly ridiculous that we're now flying Undine ships, but STO hasn't really been Star Trek for a long time now so why not? I picked up a Dromias when I saw it drop to 85 mil on the exchange and am now using it with my Fed Tac, replacing my Odyssey. I got the same turn rate with my Dromias as I did with my Odyssey while using Chevron Sep, so for a Cruiser it's disgustingly maneuverable and DBB builds can work quite well.
With APA, APO1, Strategic Maneuvering, and 4x fleet Neutronium armor with turn+ it hits 42.2 turn rate, with just the consoles and SM it's 32.2 which is still very good for a Cruiser.
The console isn't just for debuffing, it can do a lot of damage as well and I suspect it may be in for a nerf in the near future. It's like Warp Plasma on steroids, and since the bubbles move you're not safe even if you aren't right behind the ship when it's used.
The extra passive hull regen I don't really notice that much, you can tell it's there but it's not so much that you'll see your hull recovering on it's own while under fire without needing to use healing skills.
All in all the ship is fun to fly, but blatantly OP.
It's honestly ridiculous that we're now flying Undine ships, but STO hasn't really been Star Trek for a long time now so why not? I picked up a Dromias when I saw it drop to 85 mil on the exchange and am now using it with my Fed Tac, replacing my Odyssey. I got the same turn rate with my Dromias as I did with my Odyssey while using Chevron Sep, so for a Cruiser it's disgustingly maneuverable and DBB builds can work quite well.
With APA, APO1, Strategic Maneuvering, and 4x fleet Neutronium armor with turn+ it hits 42.2 turn rate, with just the consoles and SM it's 32.2 which is still very good for a Cruiser.
The console isn't just for debuffing, it can do a lot of damage as well and I suspect it may be in for a nerf in the near future. It's like Warp Plasma on steroids, and since the bubbles move you're not safe even if you aren't right behind the ship when it's used.
The extra passive hull regen I don't really notice that much, you can tell it's there but it's not so much that you'll see your hull recovering on it's own while under fire without needing to use healing skills.
All in all the ship is fun to fly, but blatantly OP.
Ok thanks for the info. As you say, i think its nuts that we are flying Undine ships, but i too am embracing the idea now.
" Experience is a hard mistress, she gives the tests first, and the lessons after... "
Short on Boffs is a big nerf for romulans and KDF. Any KDF who knows anything has 5 Nausicaan Boffs, or a few Romulan Operatives. Not a big deal for star fleet, just down one Suarian Efficient.
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Agreed. The ****ing tripod lovers can fend for their own damn selves. I did not just spend an hour blasting Undine back to the Stone Age to then turn around and fly alongside one.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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Well again looking at the stats, I think this is a hell of a cruiser. Just about everything about it looks great including its turn speed and general mobility.....but so, so ugly.
I do like the Nicor though and am thinking very, very strongly about buying one if they ever come down into the 90 million range.
I's nice that the Nicor has an alternative skin (Daectylus). Would be nice if the Dromias had one too, I feel like flying the ship backwards.
Good choice, ill probably put the Nicor on one of my Tac characters, but its a real shame that Dromias doesn't have an alternative skin, I badly needs one!
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TBH, I would like the Cryptic developer in charge of coming up with the stats for the undine ships to justify his decision to make every other battle cruiser (except for the scimitar) obsolete with these kinds of OP stats. What in the world were you thinking!?
Yeah i am also planning to buy the Nicor when it comes to that range. But i have a feeling that someone is driving up the price. I cant remember when a lockbox ship was staying so long in the 200m ec range.
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Why are you even on this thread? The OP made this post to help those who were interested in each ship learn the basics of them. If you don't want to fly one then why do you even care if someone made a video about them?
Because they don't belong in the game and making the video only validates Craptic's utter bollocking stupidity.
Is that a good enough reason?
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
No, that's a pretty bad reason. That suggests trolling. This thread really is about a review of an in-game asset. If you want to go on a crusade about why that asset was made, you can do so in a different thread.
You know, people need to just stop using the word "trolling" unless they're specifically referring to somebody trying to TRIBBLE people off for their own amusement. Do I seem particularly amused to you?
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
No. but your are amusing:)
Looking forward to getting the Nicor and thanks OP for the time you took to make a good review.
I've tried to read up on these ships and the information about what they're like, how they fly and what players who have them are experiencing with them. In three separate threads.
And each one has been derailed by you and a few others.
So I have to sift through dozens of posts about your dislike of them, just to find the information I'm looking for.
In the other two threads, it's still annoying and a headache for me. But those threads aren't specifically a review of the ship and how it handles.
This thread though?
So yeah, it IS trolling.
And could you just please do me a small favor and keep it out of this thread? There's the other two you can do that in.
If your intent is to post that you don't like that the ships were even made, you've done that already! I get it. Everyone else who's read your previous posts gets it. You made your point.
Could you please just let it go? In this thread? The OP has already stated they're going to do up a video review of the Nicor next. Which is something I really want to view and then discuss. Could you please just contain your ire into the GNN announcement thread? It just has no place here and you've already made your point anyways. At this point? You're trolling the people who come here looking for information about the ships.
Yeah I will be making a Nicor review as soon as I get the ship. And thank you for saying that its a good review. It mans a lot to me.But also I don't understand why post in a thread that's about a ship you it seems really don't like. Maybe it just me.
But again everyone has a right to their opinion.
https://youtube.com/user/MyBalkanGaming
Can anyone quantify it at all, i want to know how much of an advantage it is. Thanks.
With APA, APO1, Strategic Maneuvering, and 4x fleet Neutronium armor with turn+ it hits 42.2 turn rate, with just the consoles and SM it's 32.2 which is still very good for a Cruiser.
The console isn't just for debuffing, it can do a lot of damage as well and I suspect it may be in for a nerf in the near future. It's like Warp Plasma on steroids, and since the bubbles move you're not safe even if you aren't right behind the ship when it's used.
The extra passive hull regen I don't really notice that much, you can tell it's there but it's not so much that you'll see your hull recovering on it's own while under fire without needing to use healing skills.
All in all the ship is fun to fly, but blatantly OP.
Ok thanks for the info. As you say, i think its nuts that we are flying Undine ships, but i too am embracing the idea now.