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S9 Bortasqu' Command Cruiser anti-healer build?
rmy1081
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With the changes to SA, I was thinking of using my engineer in a Science Bortasqu as an anit-healer pressure build. I really think the Bortasqu and the Adapted Destroyer are really going to shine in S9 PvP because of the -50% healing debuff they can apply combined with the damage they can put out.
What's everyone else's thought on the Bortasqu in S9?
What's everyone else's thought on the Bortasqu in S9?
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ya, i'll be seeing just how well i can pressure someone to death with full SA and 8 beams with 4 tac consoles. i bet DEM will be crazy strong with SA too.
I'm wondering how many folks will grab Psychological Warfare to go with DOFF'd PSWs...
Probably not as many people that will pickup Fluidic Cocoon to buff their energy damage everytime they take Kinetic Damage.
With the way they've changed Species Traits along with Rep Traits - mixing and matching depending on what they're doing.
But along the lines of the other S9 stuff...another Stealth Console, eh? Hrmmm...
edit: And that Psychological Warfare trait - I don't know, that looks to be affecting all sorts of things - will be curious to see the actual value(s) it gives.
another reason to not bother using it. hasn't been worth using the 2 part since FAW stopped trigering procs way to often.
the bortas getting 33% more damage, and killing healing in half at the same time will just be stupid powerful. beams are survivable because you can outpace the dps with heal cycling, that going away is a big deal. everyone that said SA on a non sci ship being a BAD idea, are really vindicated now
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All the talk about counters and stuff, but let's get to this question.
You have so many Rep Trait slots, so many BOFF slots, etc. What are you willing to give up on your killing / defensive effectiveness to counter this?
For example, Jam Sensors. Most of the ships people favor have Lt SCI stations. Are you willing to forsake one of these in those precious 2 slots for Jam Sensors? HE? PH? TSS? And most recently, ST? TB?
You can build to counter the scenario of the thread, I'm sure. But most esp. due to the limitation of Rep Traits, you have to pick & choose. You're going to have to rely on teammates if you're going in organized. But if you're PUGing it, that's not a given. I'm sure if you build to counter this, you're going to leave yourself weaker, open to another venue, unless you have a good buddy looking out for you.
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Exactly. You can't cover everything. You can try, but it's probably going to be too watered down.
Now, I didn't test the changes on Tribble. But IMO, you're either all in on offense or all in on defense. That's my impression that I see so far, but then again, S9 just hit today.
Well I shall doth be damned~
actually dueled an especially dangerous beam scim earlier with my command bort, killed him like 5 times in a row. i was able to tank him, wile my damage soon became untankable, also his heals were cut in half, insult to injury really. the ship is unbeatable, statistically.
Yeah it's pretty cool. I went up against you in a CnH a little while ago in my command bort. It really sucks the heals out. There was a science guy in an adapted battle cruiser that had it too. It made it really hard to self heal, but it wasn't impossible...just hard..which is the way it's supposed to be
The counters I've found so far are jam sensors, AMS, t5 rom cloak, battle cloak, PSW, and running far far away. Does scramble sensors work too? I think Singularity jump might work too...but I wasn't paying too much attention. If it does then subspace jump would work too because it breaks targeting now.
i carry ST, your placates are only a minor nuance and just prolong the inevitable
What was your BOFF Set up?
I normally don't fly my Bort but I might now.
Your Ramming Speed III deals 242658 (243540) Kinetic Damage (Critical) to you.
just that of the humble star cruiser. thats the trouble with the flagships, try to do anything fancy with the universal LTC, and you end up with an inferior tac cruiser to one that runs a 2 AtB build and a LTC eng. if something like the excelsior or regent has SA, or something with a COM tac, nothing within the games frame work could be more powerful.
TT1, FAW2
EPtW1, AtB1, ET3, DEM3
EPtS1, AtB1, RSP2
HE1, ST2
TSS1
tanking (out healing) is near as important as dps in the beam boat business. espessually vs other beam boats. you need to burn him down but not get burned down yourself. part of what makes the ship work is that its all but impossible to die before SA is fully charged up, and then the guy is ether dead or on full panic defense/escape mode
yeah I switched to ST after that match. I also had a problem of losing my leech console every time I went to qo'nos so when the queue popped I was missing it
Well then...looks like I might have to pull my old Bortas out of mothballs.
I agree, I was using a similar build on my tac bortas, I used to go Lt Cmdr tac with a non a2b build, but it is much tankier with Lt Cmdr eng and still does great dps. I will save the Lt Cmdr tac for DHC builds only now if I ever run those again. Only difference is I run EPTS3 and ET1, but everything else is the same, will transfer that build to the sci bortas soon. I may try the epts1 and et3 setup too and see if the lower shield resist is worth the increased hull heal.
Lol, just noticed the change to the Bort 3 piece gives the pet BoP APB. All 3 would cut into survivability, but still. APB would squeak even a little more damage out of it and you'd have the Snare up every 4 minutes.
Speaking of which, I'm just waiting for the rise of the Command Bort to finally allow the most legendary troll move ever to go mainstream. Please note that I've already trademarked it The K'Put Maneuver after the toon I used to find and bug report it when the BORT WAS ON TRIBBLE. Reported in game, in the public forum, and the tribble forum, plus pm'd in game to devs. Can't say they didn't know about it. If you use it you are obligated to type "Execute K'Put Maneuver" in zone chat. Protip: Objects in STO are hollow.
And I know where your minds went right away, but there's more. Objects in STO allow weapons fire out but not in, should you find a way to get a starship inside one. Enjoy!
I think they buffed the auto cannon since the last time I looked at it. How long has it fired 12 pulses? The other day I tried that maneuver in a cap and hold, didn't quite pull it off lol
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