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prophecythirteenprophecythirteen Member Posts: 130 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Ten Forward
So this morning while out on my daily jaunt through my dailies I met this really nice person who was funny, friendly, and good with the space combat. We got to chatting and he said he needed a fleet so I invited him to mine and he offered to whip up a website and forum and had it done in ten minutes.

After chatting for a good hour the subjects of "What do you do?" "Where are you from?" and "Hows the love life?" came up as they always inevitably do and I said "I'm a TRIBBLE male" and oh my god would you know those are the magic words that send the universe into self destruct? He left the fleet, left the team and blocked me. =-S It really sucked because we were checking the boxes on every other subject and I was starting to think "yay I have a friend" apparently not lol

Just because I'm TRIBBLE doesn't mean I want your body, I do have standards and I'm happy that some of you are confident enough to think you embody them but sorry no. I also do not want to corrupt your mind or soul, nor do I want to impregnate your chest with a TRIBBLE alien that is going to burst out with glitter and jazz hands.

Do half the people who play this game watch Star Trek? Do they not get that one of the core beliefs of Trek is that everyone is accepted and included and that is our differences that make us strong and help us flourish?
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  • prophecythirteenprophecythirteen Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    And the really hilarious thing is that he had just agreed with me that he was "allergic to bs" and that he said "I am way past the high school mentality" =-X

    *gets off soap box*
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited April 2014
    It's a game filled with teenage boys, it's kinda expected, imaging if you had said you were a straight girl :eek:.
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  • theroyalfamilytheroyalfamily Member Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    He wanted to ERP. You killed his...mood.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Sorry to hear that. Some people still live in the dark ages.
  • jdalton1jdalton1 Member Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Sorry to hear this, it's sad to see not everyone is open minded, I really don't understand the hate against homosexual people, they are human like straights/bisexuals/asexuals. They are sad and pathetic people, I hope you find friends that are open minded :)
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  • smeeinn1tsmeeinn1t Member Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    His loss, don't sweat it. Plenty of adults in the game.
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  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Jazz hands? Really? You call yourself TRIBBLE, it should be burst out in cloud of glitter and looking faaaabulous darling :D

    What one person considers BS another can hold as a firm principle or belief. Not related to orientation, I have a friend who is a creationist I only found that out after knowing him for couple of years, to me that is BS but to him it is a firmly held belief.

    It is just one of those things you are going to have to just roll of your back because if you let it get to you it can cause more problems than it is worth. Don't take it personally they are the one with the problem not you. His loss not yours.
  • neotrident12neotrident12 Member Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Sorry to hear that.
    prophecythirteen wrote: »
    I also do not want to corrupt your mind or soul, nor do I want to impregnate your chest with a TRIBBLE alien that is going to burst out with glitter and jazz hands.

    That made me LOL so hard!
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I'm sorry for your bad experience. That sucks.

    To answer your question:
    prophecythirteen wrote: »
    Do half the people who play this game watch Star Trek? Do they not get that one of the core beliefs of Trek is that everyone is accepted and included and that is our differences that make us strong and help us flourish?

    No, I'm fairly certain that half of the people who play don't really know Star Trek and even a bigger percentage missed the points of Star Trek beyond "phaz0rz go pew-pew". But it is what it is, no point sweating about it.
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  • divvydavedivvydave Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I'm sorry to hear that two people who otherwise seem to have a lot in common can't be friends because of closed minded attitudes, as a poster above has said - HIS LOSS.

    Whatever happened to IDIC :(
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Lol. It does work the other way as well. Some have found out I'm a straight Christian male and assumed it means I'm close minded and shallow, they offered insult and left.
    Thier loss. I'm a fine looking man.
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    This sucks so bad...

    I guess there will always be idiots and homophobes. :(
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I look at it this way...People have the right to dislike whoever they want for whatever reason...

    That doesn't mean those reasons aren't ignorant and pathetic :mad:
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Its part of the human condition. There will always be someone who hates something for some reason that doesnt make sense to someone else.
    Its not just a homophobe thing.
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Did this numbnuts even realize that this is probably the most LGBT-friendly game on the market (outside of games specifically marketed to LGBTQ people)?

    I mean, BranFlakes is pretty openly TRIBBLE, as is Smirk, and Trendy's TRIBBLE, I strongly suspect that Tacofangs is bi, and there are multiple openly LGBT fleets in-game.

    Being homophobic in STO is like, LOLwut? This is a game where it's practically a GOOD thing to be out and proud.

    I don't think there's a single TRIBBLE person in my fleet (at least among the 2/3 of it that I have really interacted with), and I've NEVER had this kind of nonsense. Even the ex-Army guy who works as a military recruiter in Arizona likes to talk about the time he helped train the security for his cousin's TRIBBLE bar.

    Which makes it all the more surprising when someone random is a homophobe.

    I mean, LOLwut?????:confused:
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  • rifter1969rifter1969 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I'm sorry to hear about you bad experience... don't let it bother you. Some people just aren't open minded. I have a few TRIBBLE friends... in real life, and who cares...

    As one poster put it earlier... infinite diversity in infinite combinations.

    Be well.

    And as my sig says... have fun!
  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    That sucks, man. Sorry to hear that.
    You're right. The work here is very important.
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    ...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    One good thing, atleast, it happened so early instead of later when you had gotten to know each other better when it could have hurt your feelings. That's the only good thing I can see, as I said his loss not yours.

    I have had to deal with the fallout of friends coming out and losing people they thought were friends who they had known for years. There was nothing to say to help them feel better it was just about being there for them.
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited April 2014
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  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    There are many LBGT and such fleets out there. Go find one and be with your people and people who accept your people.

    No reason to hang around those who do not want to hang around you, it will just ruin your mood.


    It is after all your choice weather or not to suffer fools.
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  • charliescot25charliescot25 Member Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    People do need to move forward or it's going to get more complicated for these minority. I have three TRIBBLE friends, two girls who are also TRIBBLE, and it doesn't bother me. It's the friendship that is more important and to support them.

    Don't let it worry you as you haven't done anything wrong. Don't let him knock your confidence down.
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  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    prophecythirteen wrote: »

    Do half the people who play this game watch Star Trek? Do they not get that one of the core beliefs of Trek is that everyone is accepted and included and that is our differences that make us strong and help us flourish?

    Who knows? I do not watch tv; once in a while but talking less than 10 hours per year, maybe double that if you count movies.

    But why apply the actions of one person as if he represented a majority opinion. Did half your fleet leave? Anyone else freak out?

    Its his right to freak out and be intolerant. Know anyone who is intolerant of intolerance? Very few people are actually able to fully embrace the live and let live mentality, and it takes a certain maturity to get there, to overcome bias learned from parents/environment/etc. And part of the live and let live mentality is that you have to accept his world view as well -- you don't have to agree with it, but coming on here to mount your soapbox and condemn this guy is as bad as what he did. Its the great paradox --- if everyone has to tolerate and accept the views of others, then YOU have to accept and tolerate HIS view as well.
  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited April 2014
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,472 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    doctordna wrote: »
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    For someone calling himself "doctordna", you have a shockingly simplistic understanding of genetics. As an example (because it's one I have to hand, for various reasons), there are at least seventeen gene complexes (not single-gene transcription errors, but entire genetic interactions) implicated in hereditary autism. The most common form has been found to affect just over two percent of autistics in Iceland (one of the few nations to maintain a fairly complete genetic database on its population).

    And that's even leaving out de novo mutations...

    You know, just because your dad "hates" you for a stupid reason does not invalidate someone dealing with his parents hating him (as in, wishing he were dead and no longer "embarrassing the family") for being who he is. (And yes, refusing to move to Japan is a choice - you weren't "born that way".)
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  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I feel you, OP. I'm a trans woman, and it's not easy to just be myself in games (which is why I usually keep to myself).

    It's always interesting to me to see folks complaining about us standing up for ourselves, when we're not really doing anything different than anyone else in that regard. For example, straight dudes talk about their straightness all the time (when they talk about their girlfriends, or how hot Seven of Nine is, or whatever), but when OP happened to mention he was TRIBBLE, he got shunned. If I said something inflammatory about cis men, I'd be ignored/reported (rightly, according to the rules), yet trans women are constantly mocked and told to die in-game, and everyone just turns a blind eye to that -- unless, of course, we say something about it, in which case we're the ones who get vilified.

    Sometimes I hear folks say something along the lines of, "I'm just here to play a game; I don't want to think about social issues!" And okay, that's fair, I understand... but, you see, I feel the exact same way! I'm just here to play a game, too. I don't want to have to defend my humanity every single time I play. And I would imagine that OP feels similarly.
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited April 2014
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    what?? i didnt know any of that.
    i suppose i dont take any notice of peoples sexuality because its completely off my radar. i dont really care, to be honest. it makes no difference to me whether you are TRIBBLE, or whether you are an 8 year old child, because in my sto the conversations never go.... there. im here for pretty straight-forward gaming, so none of that other jazz really ever enters into the picture.

    i suspect that the ops 'ex-friend' was one of those that was looking for a bit that, and ops open admission was the realisation of 'ex-friends' worst fear :eek:
    i wouldnt take it personally. he was the prevert ;)
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  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    tehbubbaloo wrote: »
    what?? i didnt know any of that.

    Yeah, IIRC Bran was (and still is) a member of Stonewall Fleet long before he worked for PWE. Didn't know that about Trendy, though; that's pretty cool.
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