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seraphim1982
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So I came back to STO a few months ago and have been grinding away getting as much ec as I possibly can. Im now at the point where I can have my choice of ships from the exchange (with the exception of the really big ticket items like the JHAS). My question is what should I buy? I'm fed engineer and have been looking at the JHDC or the Tholian Recluse but im not sure how these line up against the elachi ships. I already have the Galor and the D'Kora from earlier and its mostly PVE stuff that I do.
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Are you into the stats? Are you into the aesthetic?
For my part, I go for look and make my play fit to the stats. So if I had to choose between the JHDC or the Recluse, then I'd go Recluse all day! BUT, if I want to do "rare", then the Elachi ships are rare to see in space and I don't know why. Franly, I have not seen one used in weeks (not that I'm flying all over the galaxy ...).
The JH carrier has the frontal weapon but the best pets are the expensive JHAS pack and it is less flexible. Its every bit as tough, so it can tank, and it can do damage, but it can't morph into a sci ship. So if you are not looking at a sci heavy build, it is a fine choice. Finding good pets for it may be troublesome, though, esp if you are federation.
Its hard to compare carriers to other ships. Pets, extreme toughness, and very slow turn rates are hard to compare to anything else; they are kinda "cruiser" like but nothing at all like the elachi or galor type ships.
Have you tried a carrier at all before? spending big EC on these ships only to find out that you do not like the style would be painful. If you have the event given oblisk carrier, that would make a test run for the general style of play. Or try it in the mission (sphere of influence) though it has a poor weapon layout in that default setup, you can at least get a sense of it. Or I think you can use any ship on tribble (???) to test drive (?).
I love my recluse. It is virtually indestructible and does more than enough dps for PVE. I built up a significant turn rate on mine and sport dual beam banks up front, cutter and AP and turret in the back, all AP, using a tac cmdr. I am hoping to get a JH carrier for another character, saving up my EC now.
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I have to say, that if you like beam array ships and want to buy something new, then look at the Scimitar, Avenger or the Mogh. All three on engineers get very good DPS and are quite survivable. Each of these is flexible enough to load dual heavy cannons and be very effective in that setup as well.
I highly recommend looking into the builds for each of them. The Mogh and Avenger are identical ships. So, don't forget to check the Klingon forum side too for Avenger ideas from the Mogh.
That said my toons will fly the JHDC with scorpions except the sci who will fly a recluse. In the sphere the scorpions are limited but runabouts or delta flyers are decent enough,
i have 3k zen and 1/2 mil credits.
the 4 ships I am considering purchasing are : Avenger, Vesta Tactical, Multi-Vector, or the Tactical Escort Refit.
Obviously I am a tactical Capt. My best fore weapons are 3 purple cannons. I am currently using the stock Promethius, with 4 fore, 3 aft weapons but have a horrible turn rate of only 6 dps. I am wanting something that can do alot of damage but not so (squishy). I don't die alot but find myself having to bug out of a fight to repair and then rejoin.
I want something that uses cannons so i can transfer over what i have without having to start again from scratch.
sorry for posting on the ongoing thread but apprecaite any advise i can get.
Seraphim, I mean no disrespect to you, but you definately have something wrong in your setup or playstyle if the Scimitar is a glass cannon. I run the scimitar and she's got great DPS and is quite tanky. At first, I thought she'd be weak at taking damage, but it's very resilient. I normally run the tank in STFs, so if I say it's tanky, it's more than good. It's just slightly behind the Galaxy variants or the big carriers in tankiness by my experience, but you give up so little for so much more DPS, that it's totally worth it.
If you don't have the console from the valdore, that might be why it's a glass cannon. Check the forums for the scimitar builds, I've posted several builds that work well and I've seen a few others too that work. I used to run an A2B build that worked well. I recently switched to a non A2B build that does the same DPS, both with beam arrays, so I can confidently say that it tanks well and puts out the hurt too.
TS1 (you won't use this), TT2, BFAW3, APB3
ET1, A2B1
HE1, ST2
EPTS1, A2B1, EPTW3
PH1
Swap EPTS1 and EPTW3 for EPTW1 and EPTS3 if you need more shield healing/ tank
What about the heavy escort carrier? It has enough self healing to survive, and (not sure??) you *may* be able to get a healing pet for the hangar bay (I know I have a shield healing drone on someone, forget who).
avenger is sweet and a great choice but cannons on it will be a challenge. Honestly, weapons are fairly cheap, and this is a tough, high dps ship....
vesta is a sci ship, it is missing a forward gun.
multi-vector might work for you, but its not going to be super durable.
tac Retrofit is going to be very squishy, it barely has enough healing to function.
--- What are you talking about on your current ship? The promethus class is an escort with a high turn rate, either you are sitting still or something is very wrong. CARRIERS and the worst "cruisers" have 5-6 turn rate, if you are that low, you have a problem.
There is no should.
One is slow and tough.
One is fast and delicate.
Both can do very good dps.
Pick the one that suits you.
No cloak on the adapted bc
Your cannons are useless on the vesta. The whole point of the ship are the aux powered cannons.
You won't get a better build with defiant-R than with the prommy so that should narrow things down to Avenger or the MVAE, which has the very nice lcdr sci slot.
Oh and you are flying an escort. You cannot fly it like a cruiser and be a damage soak