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xalexkx
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Since season 9 is the new accord, between the federation and the klingons, i think it would be nice now if the teams would contain mixes of feds and klinks . it will make it more fun
i have been looking thru tribble , and i have not seen anything about ker'rat yet. the ker'rat storyline is outdated anyway, now with the omega task force, klinks and feds fighting over borg tech. but it is good the way it is,
so, was there in any patch notes , anything said about ker'rat and mixed teams ? did cryptic even think about this?
i have been looking thru tribble , and i have not seen anything about ker'rat yet. the ker'rat storyline is outdated anyway, now with the omega task force, klinks and feds fighting over borg tech. but it is good the way it is,
so, was there in any patch notes , anything said about ker'rat and mixed teams ? did cryptic even think about this?
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do i need to explain the romulans...
Even in thinking about them doing a mirrored training zone along the lines of the Undine SBZ...wouldn't make sense, because the folks would be working together rather than against each other. Though one could work it as a training zone for that battle...but then you'd basically be creating a persistent CnH type zone that resets after a point. Would that then kill the CnH queue?
Imagine a mirrored version of the Undine SBZ where two sides are fighting against each other while trying to fight off Undine invaders interrupting the wargame, eh? But then again, wouldn't that be better off as a queued match rather than a zone? Or would it?
Perhaps, much like N'Vak - just creating a third zone could be done - dropped out somewhere else in space...but how would it be worked into the story?
It's a complicated matter...
if we are lucky the devs will just ignore/forget about things like karrat
The issue is rarely that there are too many KDF. Sure, the issue will still arise where you've got what I like to call 2:18 and 18:2...but for the most part, you're looking at 18:2.
What's that? Fed:KDF numbers...you can have two instances of Ker'rat running where you've got 2 Feds:18 KDF and 18 Feds:2 KDF. Okay, it's more likely to have several instances where the Feds massively outnumber the KDF - with the every now and again single instance where the KDF outnumber the Feds. It's usually when one of three KDF Fleets show up - and even then - it's just the unlucky Feds that happen to end up in that zone rather than in one of the zones that's all but empty of KDF.
There's little doubt something should be done about balancing Ker'rat - in the end, it's meant to be a PvPvE zone where the rewards are based on not only the PvE aspect but the PvP aspect as well...
...though the farmers obviously don't want that.
Perhaps Cryptic could take a look at buffing the NPCs based on the number of Reds and Blues in a zone - balanced Reds and Blues, then the NPCs are what they are. Outnumbered - then the NPCs kick it up a notch. Add in a better attempt at balancing the numbers in the zones - and - well...
...it would never happen, because the farmers would cry about the more difficult NPCs.
Probably end up killing off the zone.
Like I said, it's definitely a complicated matter.
I just started to go to Ker'rat as KDF, and I kind of like being the underdog. Going RvB may balance teams, but how will the HOBOs continue their goal of Ker'rat domination? Teaming... I guess.
And the farmers, the poor farmers! They may have to compete with each other, oh no! Maybe they'll actually have to *gasp* PvP with other farmers.
But I really think the devs have given Ker'rat zero thought.
lol, like the respawns changed, i wonder why they ever did that in the first place. lol was a random fluke, or what. its not kerrat got any better because of it, in factit got worse. no more major spawn battles! at least that was fun.
And it removed the Red Fed bug. I enjoyed helping the KDF destroy evul feddie farmers!
Not in the least. Do you think they're going to go through and rip out all the other war stuff? The various missions - the DOFFing - etc?
Ker'rat is at a point in time. Everything could end up hugs 'n kisses between the KDF and Feds...but it wouldn't change the past. Ker'rat would still exist at the point in time it does - just like replaying anything else.
It would be a story issue were it changed to allow for crossfaction...the story would have to be changed for it. For Feds, they pick it up (or used to) somewhere between 5-7, eh? Not sure when it gets dropped out now - can't remember for the KDF either - figuring with the introduction of the Romulans; might have gotten pushed back to 11 because of the faction choice requirement?
Basically, Ker'rat happens early in the overall story arc. To change it would require moving it to be later in the overall story arc - they'd basically have to drop it out starting at level 50.
Even there, they'd have the issue of Feds fighting Feds in a non-wargame scenario. KDF vs. KDF is fine, easily written off as House Battles...(N'Vak says hello!)...but the Feds don't have that.
It's complicated, and I doubt we're going to see any new PvPvE zone from Cryptic any time soon - and I doubt they're going to go through to rewrite the story for Ker'rat.
The spawncamping in Ker'rat was tedious and annoying regardless of what side you were on. It was TRIBBLE and it was great that Jesse addressed that. Folks head up above the Borg for some nifty action...without resorting to the exploit of spawncamping.
They need to fix the reset though...cause it's always interrupting fun fights.
SPOILER ALERT!
Meh, used to be able to do it in black - can't do that now (thanks Arc! - btw, Arc is short for "a runny TRIBBLE")...
The Federation become the Borg.
"We are the Federation. Lower your standards and surrender your individuality. We will ignore your biological and technological distinctiveness and replace it with our own. Your culture will cease to exist. Resistance is not part of the script."
Shhhh, don't tell anybody.
Michael Eddington was a lame character who fueled a tedious subplot, but his monologue about the Federation being worse than the Borg was spot-on.
"Because we've left the Federation, and that's the one thing you can't accept. Nobody leaves paradise. Everyone should want to be in the Federation. Hell, you even want the Cardassians to join. You're only sending them replicators because one day they can take their "rightful place" on the Federation Council. You know, in some ways you're even worse than the Borg. At least they tell you about their plans for assimilation. You're more insidious. You assimilate people and they don't even know it."
I don't really have a problem with episodes having war content. I'd expect "A New Accord" to be played and from there on the war is over (again, IF they are ending the war), at least from the single player end of things. Doffing and such could just be explained away as houses doing bad things separate from the empire.
But to have an active warzone, eh, I don't know. Even if it is "just a point in time", it's still kind of out of place. But again, I really don't think the devs have given any thought to Ker'rat, or doffing, or anything that has to do with the war. They'll just end it if they feel like it.
When I only went to Ker'rat as a Fed I wanted the war to be over. Now that I'm going as a KDF/Rom I'm more ambivalent. I don't know if I care that much about balance- in terms of numbers- in Ker'rat or the queues. I've tasted Fed tears and I really find it to be incredibly satisfying.
^This please. I was kind of hoping for a new PvPvE zone with season 9, but I agree, we won't be seeing a new zone like this for some time...
It's not just the KDF that DOFF the War. Heh, it's kind of funny - because the War is most prevalent in DOFFing. Otherwise, the War is over pretty early on in the story.
They botched the timeline when they lowered it so the KDF could start at level 1, mind you.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Episodes
Check out how time flows for the Feds - then look at the KDF. A key mission that stands out is "Skirmish" - imho. That list shows it taking place at point X in time, before other events have unfolded. Yet for the KDF and even Romulans, it happens after other events.
Which has always bugged me in general - and - definitely points to STO being a single-player game with a kludged multiplayer aspect tacked on (and thus the issue of, "No, Mr. Rivera - STO does not have a robust endgame.") - being the route of so many issues.
C'mon, LoR was an inconsistent retcon - meh...look at all this PvE in a PvP thread!!! Meh...
...but it's an example of where I have little faith for PvP in this game, when it's basically a PvE game with PvP tacked on and they can't even get the PvE straight...what hope is there for PvP?
Four years ago, if you created a toon - they were basically at a spot in time. Create a toon tomorrow, they're basically going to be at a similar spot in time. Level a toon - then level another toon - they go through the same ol' ride.
STO's a themepark. Hell, the name of the server is Holodeck. Almost everything is instanced - just a series of Holodeck programs. It's such a colossal mess.
Heh, PvP has sort of been out of that - just pew pew and don't think too much about the bogus story issues.
I think like anything (whether system mechanics or story) - Cryptic tends to look at things closely, not as part of a whole. Part of the reason we've got so many issues with stacking of things - problems with too much damage and too much healing at the same time.
That falls squarely on Geko and Dan/Dan 2.0...
Ker'rat zone chat can definitely be highly entertaining...sometimes just fly off to the side or suicide into a mass of Borg without shield/armor...just to be in the zone to read some of the trippy things folks will go off the deep end about...lol.
Sure,..
we will bring pease over the Empire,.. as a new Chancellor, we send you a Vulcan.
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Ker'rat is the only thing that keeps me logging into the game.
If they TRIBBLE it up or otherwise change it so that it breaks the basic functionality that it has now... I'll say some explicative words to cryptic and shut the door on them forever along with my wallet which has been too generous to them already.
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While Cryptic trying to make this All PvP into a Cross Faction mess to fit a PvE storyline with a war against the Undine thats 50,000 light years away, and all of this when the Klingon-Federation War is at each others doorstep.
If Cryptic decides to end the Klingon-Federation War... why stop now? did they already written about how the Klingons and Federation is not only war with each other but also with the entire galaxy like the True Way, Breen, Elachi, Voth, Species 8472, Borg, Romulan Star Empire/Tal'shiar, Fek'Ihri, Tholians, Devidians, Terrans (Mirror), and soon Iconians... and no doubt a few years ahead we will see more wars with the Krenim and the Kazons and many more.
Say NO for ALL PvP becoming CROSS FACTIONS PvP
this is what i was thinking when i saw this post... i rarely do anything else in sto anymore. all my toons are on one instance or another in ker'rat. i'm a carrot rat and proud of it.
the only changes i'd like to see made, are the resets. those are unnecessary and should stop. red fed was nice too, would give me a reason to log onto my fed toons and would bring some balance to the zone, since feds outnumber the kdf most of the time.