This make no sense... aren the Voth much more advanced than the Feds and anyone else in the Alpha/Beta Quad?
If the Borg had assimilated some Voth... then wouldnt the Borg now be as strong as the Voth?
I never get how the Feds/Klingons can fight the Voth head on and win/hold them off.
Well, remember the Borg the Fed/KDF/Roms (IE us in game) are fighting now, are 'defective' Borg. The Voth are supposedly fighting the un-neutered Borg and still holding their own. (And lets face it, every time the real Borg have shown their face in the Alpha Quadrant (usually just one Cube); it's taken luck (oh look, we just happen to have access to Borg Cube systems directly/Have a former assimilated Borg Captain that somehow knows the one weak spot to fire at...) to beat them. That said, the Voth also don't seem as bent on developing military weapons when compared to Alpha Quadrant races, so on a purely military level, while better, they're still not that much better (Although let's face it, in game, the Alpha Quadrant Star Nations ships all take out Voth fairly easily.):D;)
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I don't think anyone is implying that the Borg assimilated any Voth yet.
Voth were already assimilated in the Voyager era. An assimilated Voth appears in an episode (one of Seven of Nine's flashbacks if I recall correctly).
Of course, those could be a few individuals with little impact on the Collective as a whole.
The Borg are a super advanced species, too. I see no problem with them being able to put up a figh against the Voth. The Borg have superior numbers and resources, I presume.
What is really ridiculous is us putting up a fight against both of them on such a large scale.
I don't think anyone is implying that the Borg assimilated any Voth yet.
It is implied they have been assimilated. Says they are fighting them to stop them right and are seeking new weapons to fight the Borg. You dont need to be 100% assimilated to be assimilated. If they capture 1 ship and crew... wham all that is assimilated and that improves the collective.
(Although let's face it, in game, the Alpha Quadrant Star Nations ships all take out Voth fairly easily.):D;)
I hope we won't face the Voth outside the Dyson Sphere(s).
My pet theory is that the Spheres are emitting some sort of energy field which inhibits the higher functions of Voth technology.
The Dyson Joint Command factions do not even realize this, because none of their tech is advanced enough to be influenced by said field.
It evens out the odds a little bit.
Would make sense, after all. I guess the Iconians and Solanae prepared especially for species with the tech level of the Voth, the Borg and Species 8472.
Voth were already assimilated in the Voyager era. An assimilated Voth appears in an episode (one of Seven of Nine's flashbacks if I recall correctly).
Of course, those could be a few individuals with little impact on the Collective as a whole.
The Borg are a super advanced species, too. I see no problem with them being able to put up a figh against the Voth. The Borg have superior numbers and resources, I presume.
What is really ridiculous is us putting up a fight against both of them on such a large scale.
Ah, okay. I don't remember that part, so I was unaware.
Funny though not much reason for our presence to be there lol.
Let me guess though the start of season 9 you will get your reputations heavily nerfed, then it will appear every one of your boffs were undine infiltrators, then you will have to replace them all. So pretty much Season 9 means cry deeply, replace boffs, replace kits, replace all your other gear, and then grind a new reputation which has no purpose being that it will just add more passives you cannot use lol.
Funny though not much reason for our presence to be there lol.
Let me guess though the start of season 9 you will get your reputations heavily nerfed, then it will appear every one of your boffs were undine infiltrators, then you will have to replace them all. So pretty much Season 9 means cry deeply, replace boffs, replace kits, replace all your other gear, and then grind a new reputation which has no purpose being that it will just add more passives you cannot use lol.
...is this all you do? "I dont like x lol" Jeez, if it bothers you that much, then go do something else instead of this lol
...oh, my god, that means the Voth were even MORE stupid with the Omega particles than we thought! YOU DON'T TOY AROUND WITH WHAT THE BORG LOVE, PEOPLE!
I have to agree with him on this one. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THE VOTH EVEN DARE USE OMEGA PARTICLES. TO THE BORG THAT IS LIKE THE DIVINE ELEMENT FOR THEM BRILLIANT! On another note regarding the Undine, USING THE ICONIAN GATEWAYS INSTEAD OF FLUIDIC RIFTS, BRILLIANT! And modified Planet Killers? If I remember in the novels it turned out a race designed them to combat the Borg. Could be wrong on that. But modifying them? What the HECK do you need to modify them for. They have a Neutronium Alloy shell encased around them. And able to destroy a planet *hint* *hint* their name? BRILLIANT! Honestly hope something awesome can come out of this.
...is this all you do? "I dont like x lol" Jeez, if it bothers you that much, then go do something else instead of this lol
You are right I am not a mindless grinding drone If I were I would be saying oooh I am so excited about grinding stuff up just to end up losing it lol. Yeah it does bother me that their method of content is making you gring up x, then take away x, replace x with y and tell you to grind for y and then rinse and repeat with little actual development. What bothers me is eventually they do this enough and more and more people catch on there will no longer be any STO.
I appreciate this blog, but the story is convoluted and very hard to follow. I appreciate a complex story and a summary of dyson grind cutscenes, because I haven't once cared to kill or see the dinos with lasers. But, even with this summary, it's kind of a mess, without a central foe, a central storyline, etc.
I have to agree with him on this one. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THE VOTH EVEN DARE USE OMEGA PARTICLES. TO THE BORG THAT IS LIKE THE DIVINE ELEMENT FOR THEM BRILLIANT! On another note regarding the Undine, USING THE ICONIAN GATEWAYS INSTEAD OF FLUIDIC RIFTS, BRILLIANT! And modified Planet Killers? If I remember in the novels it turned out a race designed them to combat the Borg. Could be wrong on that. But modifying them? What the HECK do you need to modify them for. They have a Neutronium Alloy shell encased around them. And able to destroy a planet *hint* *hint* their name? BRILLIANT! Honestly hope something awesome can come out of this.
Who told you the Undine modified the TOS Planet Killers? They have their own. Totally different thing.
Y'know, you guys should do one of these in character blogs once a fortnight or so, even when there's no upcoming content. It would be a nice little touch that makes the STO universe feel a bit more alive.
Sounds like a good way to add a bit more story depth without having to make those complicated episodes, eh?
One of my biggest beefs with the Reputation system. The casual player is not going to bother grinding through five tiers of Reputation ranks just to understand the general story.
If the Rep cutscenes were minor side-stories unrelated to the main arc, that would be better. But I bet a lot of people were confused when "Sphere of Influence" was about that Iconian gateway you apparently discovered, or that Voth scientist who apparently joined your crew prior to "A Step Between Stars". I really hope Cryptic learns from this, though I'm not optimistic.
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So the Voth were attacked by the Borg, (Assimilated T Rex ? ), so The Voth were pokin around the Sphere lookin for some cool **** to shoot at the Borg.
The Voth then clashed with us, (Who were innocently diggin around in Solanne trash cans, lookin for something useful). To shoot at the Borg AND shoot at each other.....
The Voth decided that their relatives MUST have made the spheres in the first place and attempted to take the spheres so they could steal the omega particles to smear all around their territories to isolate themselves and to keep the other warp capable riff raff away. BUT, the Borg get a collective chubby over the omega particles.....
Soooooo, I dunno...
Plus, we've invented transwarp gates and tech, then found a **** ton of a lota Iconian gateways....
The Voth were then wiped out by the Undine, who decided they wanted to crash our little party again and wanted the sphere booty for themselves....
So the Dinos are gone, the Undine are back and the sphere's have become war torn slums ?
I don't have enough bread crumbs to get me home ... But I kinda like it anyway.
It may turn out to be the case that there is no direct correspondence, you've got to admit though, he has a point about Voyager. If fluidic rifts were a shortcut back to the Alpha Quadrant, they'd have been all over it.
Not really, fluidic space was crawling full of species 8472. That's a death wish to go in there, even with the Borg nanoprobes they would end up getting overwhelmed and destroyed, like they almost did the first run in. Plus there's no proof or reason why fluidic space would be chopped up or segmented any differently then normal space.
Species 8472 had replaced some people in the Federation the Klingon and more then like the Romulan empire in sto long before this new dyson sphere was discovered, or the Jenolan one was found again.
They were also shown on Voyager to have made perfect a copy of Starfleet academy in their dome.
it doesn't seem like travel would be a problem for em
Voth were already assimilated in the Voyager era. An assimilated Voth appears in an episode (one of Seven of Nine's flashbacks if I recall correctly).
Of course, those could be a few individuals with little impact on the Collective as a whole.
The Borg are a super advanced species, too. I see no problem with them being able to put up a figh against the Voth. The Borg have superior numbers and resources, I presume.
What is really ridiculous is us putting up a fight against both of them on such a large scale.
iirc, the only assimilated voth to appear in canon was in vinculum, specifically seven's split personality episode, so its entirely possible it was just a "filler" alien to make the scene more diverse, or a product of seven's rapidly degenerating brain filling in the blanks.
Its like how an assimilated hirogen is seen in this episode, but seven comments in a different episode that the borg have never encountered the hirogen.
I'd like to think that the voth have tech countermeasures against borg assimilation, like uber self destructs and neural wiping on nanoprobe entry. Theyve been shown to have immense knowledge of cybernetics.
In addition, voth society is made up of heavily focuses circles. The soldiers on the front might have little to no idea of the intricate workings of voth tech, so provided there were some way rendering the tech immune to assimilation/capture by enemy forces the borg shouldnt be able to learn all that much.
From what we've seen in game and the shows the voth should wipe the floor with the borg in one on one engagements, or even one on twelve. I think the only reason the voth are starting to struggle is the influx of 8472 and the sheer number of borg. Hopefully, they are smart enough to prevent assimilation, and are instead fighting a war of attrition.
In a strange way, this would make the voth the biggest good guys of the whole game, as they are single handedly holding off the vast majority of the borg and 8472 assault, while also dealing with annoyances like dyson joint command.
No wonder theyre desperate. Maybe the feds should just butt out for once and let the infinitely more advanced race fighting your biggest enemies do what needs to be done. Maybe even show a little gratitude rather than trying, in effect, HELP THE BORG.
I hope we won't face the Voth outside the Dyson Sphere(s).
My pet theory is that the Spheres are emitting some sort of energy field which inhibits the higher functions of Voth technology.
The Dyson Joint Command factions do not even realize this, because none of their tech is advanced enough to be influenced by said field.
It evens out the odds a little bit.
Would make sense, after all. I guess the Iconians and Solanae prepared especially for species with the tech level of the Voth, the Borg and Species 8472.
I love this theory. Please cryptic, use it in game and give em a legacy pack as a thank you.
There are some sceens in game which support this theory actually. Remember when we first teleport into the jenolan sphere? Suddenly the voth citadel is able to hold us in a tractor, shut down all our vital systems and act like we're an insect. Maybe the jenolan sphere was still powering up, and couldnt enable the dampening field yet?
In addition, in step between the stars it is mentioned that the voth can see striaght through even the most advanced cloaks, but in the sphere battles (eg storming the spire) they cannot.
Either way, id like some explanation as to how the most advanced race in the entire galaxy can suddenly see their largest ships blown up by a single excelsior flown by a captain of average skill (eg me).
Back on topic. Love blogs like this, you should do em more often. Itll help newbies and those who didnt do certain reps yet get up to speed, while also adding more flavour to the sto universe.
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Not really, fluidic space was crawling full of species 8472. That's a death wish to go in there, even with the Borg nanoprobes they would end up getting overwhelmed and destroyed, like they almost did the first run in. Plus there's no proof or reason why fluidic space would be chopped up or segmented any differently then normal space.
Species 8472 had replaced some people in the Federation the Klingon and more then like the Romulan empire in sto long before this new dyson sphere was discovered, or the Jenolan one was found again.
They were also shown on Voyager to have made perfect a copy of Starfleet academy in their dome.
it doesn't seem like travel would be a problem for em
Sure, but if rifts could be opened to any point in normal space, they wouldn't have needed to travel through fluidic space; they could have just jumped in, and opened a new rift to the Alpha Quadrant.
They never even raised the possibility with fake Boothby (they'll attack the Borg to try and steal a transwarp coil, but won't even politely ask non hostile Undine if they could 'maybe possibly use fluidic space to get home faster if it's not too much trouble').
Sure, but if rifts could be opened to any point in normal space, they wouldn't have needed to travel through fluidic space; they could have just jumped in, and opened a new rift to the Alpha Quadrant.
They never even raised the possibility with fake Boothby (they'll attack the Borg to try and steal a transwarp coil, but won't even politely ask non hostile Undine if they could 'maybe possibly use fluidic space to get home faster if it's not too much trouble').
Well, on one hand iirc Janeway was trying to convince them that Starfleet was not planning an invasion of their space. Boothby seemed certain the higher ups wouldn't be convinced anyway. I don't imagine this going over well:
"hey boss, those guys that blew up a dozen of our ships before are telling us they're not planning an invasion. Btw they want us to let them back in so they can hop back to HQ real quick to not plan that invasion. heheh uhh" *executed for incompetence*
Also, I wonder about the Voth having trouble with the Borg. I mean they seem to have transwarp without the use of conduits and infinitely better sensors. They could just map out the conduits near their space and sling over with their full fleet at each exit point. A cube seems way smaller than a city ship too, and Borg tactics seem generally centered around having a tech advantage over their enemies, and just powering through their shields and weapons fire.
I also agree that xiaoping has a nice explanation for Voth parity with alpha quadrant vessels
Sure, but if rifts could be opened to any point in normal space, they wouldn't have needed to travel through fluidic space; they could have just jumped in, and opened a new rift to the Alpha Quadrant.
They never even raised the possibility with fake Boothby (they'll attack the Borg to try and steal a transwarp coil, but won't even politely ask non hostile Undine if they could 'maybe possibly use fluidic space to get home faster if it's not too much trouble').
Guess it's one of those things we'll have to agree to disagree on. In the Episode (In the flesh)
Species 8472 had already been to the alpha quadrant and earth without needing to use any gate in the dyson sphere. it's a extradimensional realm, and most of it is still unknown so all we can do is speculate but we do know that they used quantum singularities to open rifts.
As to not asking fake Boothby for a path through fluidic space home, I don't blame em. Things were only starting to get amecable between them. "Boothby" Promised to talk to the higher ups to see if they'd change their minds, but couldn't promise they would listen, because he didn't represent all of the 8472's, some of whom still wanted war.
So I can understand not wanting to take a chance on losing Voyager. But to suppose that because they (Janeway and company) didn't ask for a ride home that the 8472's can't reach earth without iconian gates in fluidic space is respectfully speculation at best.
So I can understand not wanting to take a chance on losing Voyager. But to suppose that because they (Janeway and company) didn't ask for a ride home that the 8472's can't reach earth without iconian gates in fluidic space is respectfully speculation at best.
It would be pretty poor logic to make that training facility if they did not have a way to reach earth.:P
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To be fair, the truly casual player doesn't care about any Star Trek backstory; they just want to blow stuff up in space.:D
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Who told you the Undine modified the TOS Planet Killers? They have their own. Totally different thing.
When all nine points are captured, players will be able to go after the Undines modified planet killers. There are three planet killers in all and players will only have a limited amount of time to defeat all of them before they retreat back to fluidic space.
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Which also brings up one more thing Xiaopong. They quoted, "Undine Modified Planet Killers"; which could mean part of a Planet Killer was taken and modified to an Undine ship, an Undine Ship was modified through Undine technology to develop their own equivilent, or also they took a Planet Killer an built Undine tech to adapt to the existing Planet Killer Xiaopong. But then again someone like you always draw their own conclusions and rejects someone else's theory or even opinion as complete hypocrisy
OK. I found this helpful. As summaries go it has left out much detail. Besides the parts they are concentrating on.
Like what are the Iconians doing while all these factions are busy playing space wars in their backyard? And the Tholians who've been pretty much left dry since harvesting technology on New Romulus, you'd think they would swarm to a sphere with all that juicy tech up for grabs.
Then of course the Borg, if they've been hunting Voth we should be seeing them in the sphere too - with the territory they own they must have come across plenty of gates by now.
My main concern here is where the story goes. I get the impression the whole sphere idea will be used as a crutch, and we'll have many more seasons in the future which basically introduces a new threat in a sphere some place - which will lead to an even more confusing plot when trying to tie it all together.
My Star Trek and especially Undine knowledge is fairly limited, so don't lynch me for my theories.
About Undine needing the gateway to travel to our quadrants... I mean fluidic space is alien to us, right? Isn't our space thus alien to Undine? Do they have it even mapped? And aren't they thus like ''Sure, we can open rifts to the other side, but who the @^%$# know where we end up? Its a mess! Its not fluid at all!''
Maybe they need like beacons or something to navigate it safely.
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Well, remember the Borg the Fed/KDF/Roms (IE us in game) are fighting now, are 'defective' Borg. The Voth are supposedly fighting the un-neutered Borg and still holding their own. (And lets face it, every time the real Borg have shown their face in the Alpha Quadrant (usually just one Cube); it's taken luck (oh look, we just happen to have access to Borg Cube systems directly/Have a former assimilated Borg Captain that somehow knows the one weak spot to fire at...) to beat them. That said, the Voth also don't seem as bent on developing military weapons when compared to Alpha Quadrant races, so on a purely military level, while better, they're still not that much better (Although let's face it, in game, the Alpha Quadrant Star Nations ships all take out Voth fairly easily.):D;)
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Voth were already assimilated in the Voyager era. An assimilated Voth appears in an episode (one of Seven of Nine's flashbacks if I recall correctly).
Of course, those could be a few individuals with little impact on the Collective as a whole.
The Borg are a super advanced species, too. I see no problem with them being able to put up a figh against the Voth. The Borg have superior numbers and resources, I presume.
What is really ridiculous is us putting up a fight against both of them on such a large scale.
It is implied they have been assimilated. Says they are fighting them to stop them right and are seeking new weapons to fight the Borg. You dont need to be 100% assimilated to be assimilated. If they capture 1 ship and crew... wham all that is assimilated and that improves the collective.
I hope we won't face the Voth outside the Dyson Sphere(s).
My pet theory is that the Spheres are emitting some sort of energy field which inhibits the higher functions of Voth technology.
The Dyson Joint Command factions do not even realize this, because none of their tech is advanced enough to be influenced by said field.
It evens out the odds a little bit.
Would make sense, after all. I guess the Iconians and Solanae prepared especially for species with the tech level of the Voth, the Borg and Species 8472.
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Funny though not much reason for our presence to be there lol.
Let me guess though the start of season 9 you will get your reputations heavily nerfed, then it will appear every one of your boffs were undine infiltrators, then you will have to replace them all. So pretty much Season 9 means cry deeply, replace boffs, replace kits, replace all your other gear, and then grind a new reputation which has no purpose being that it will just add more passives you cannot use lol.
...is this all you do? "I dont like x lol" Jeez, if it bothers you that much, then go do something else instead of this lol
I have to agree with him on this one. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THE VOTH EVEN DARE USE OMEGA PARTICLES. TO THE BORG THAT IS LIKE THE DIVINE ELEMENT FOR THEM BRILLIANT! On another note regarding the Undine, USING THE ICONIAN GATEWAYS INSTEAD OF FLUIDIC RIFTS, BRILLIANT! And modified Planet Killers? If I remember in the novels it turned out a race designed them to combat the Borg. Could be wrong on that. But modifying them? What the HECK do you need to modify them for. They have a Neutronium Alloy shell encased around them. And able to destroy a planet *hint* *hint* their name? BRILLIANT! Honestly hope something awesome can come out of this.
You are right I am not a mindless grinding drone
Who told you the Undine modified the TOS Planet Killers? They have their own. Totally different thing.
Sounds like a good way to add a bit more story depth without having to make those complicated episodes, eh?
One of my biggest beefs with the Reputation system. The casual player is not going to bother grinding through five tiers of Reputation ranks just to understand the general story.
If the Rep cutscenes were minor side-stories unrelated to the main arc, that would be better. But I bet a lot of people were confused when "Sphere of Influence" was about that Iconian gateway you apparently discovered, or that Voth scientist who apparently joined your crew prior to "A Step Between Stars". I really hope Cryptic learns from this, though I'm not optimistic.
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So the Voth were attacked by the Borg, (Assimilated T Rex ? ), so The Voth were pokin around the Sphere lookin for some cool **** to shoot at the Borg.
The Voth then clashed with us, (Who were innocently diggin around in Solanne trash cans, lookin for something useful). To shoot at the Borg AND shoot at each other.....
The Voth decided that their relatives MUST have made the spheres in the first place and attempted to take the spheres so they could steal the omega particles to smear all around their territories to isolate themselves and to keep the other warp capable riff raff away. BUT, the Borg get a collective chubby over the omega particles.....
Soooooo, I dunno...
Plus, we've invented transwarp gates and tech, then found a **** ton of a lota Iconian gateways....
The Voth were then wiped out by the Undine, who decided they wanted to crash our little party again and wanted the sphere booty for themselves....
So the Dinos are gone, the Undine are back and the sphere's have become war torn slums ?
I don't have enough bread crumbs to get me home ... But I kinda like it anyway.
Not really, fluidic space was crawling full of species 8472. That's a death wish to go in there, even with the Borg nanoprobes they would end up getting overwhelmed and destroyed, like they almost did the first run in. Plus there's no proof or reason why fluidic space would be chopped up or segmented any differently then normal space.
Species 8472 had replaced some people in the Federation the Klingon and more then like the Romulan empire in sto long before this new dyson sphere was discovered, or the Jenolan one was found again.
They were also shown on Voyager to have made perfect a copy of Starfleet academy in their dome.
it doesn't seem like travel would be a problem for em
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iirc, the only assimilated voth to appear in canon was in vinculum, specifically seven's split personality episode, so its entirely possible it was just a "filler" alien to make the scene more diverse, or a product of seven's rapidly degenerating brain filling in the blanks.
Its like how an assimilated hirogen is seen in this episode, but seven comments in a different episode that the borg have never encountered the hirogen.
I'd like to think that the voth have tech countermeasures against borg assimilation, like uber self destructs and neural wiping on nanoprobe entry. Theyve been shown to have immense knowledge of cybernetics.
In addition, voth society is made up of heavily focuses circles. The soldiers on the front might have little to no idea of the intricate workings of voth tech, so provided there were some way rendering the tech immune to assimilation/capture by enemy forces the borg shouldnt be able to learn all that much.
From what we've seen in game and the shows the voth should wipe the floor with the borg in one on one engagements, or even one on twelve. I think the only reason the voth are starting to struggle is the influx of 8472 and the sheer number of borg. Hopefully, they are smart enough to prevent assimilation, and are instead fighting a war of attrition.
In a strange way, this would make the voth the biggest good guys of the whole game, as they are single handedly holding off the vast majority of the borg and 8472 assault, while also dealing with annoyances like dyson joint command.
No wonder theyre desperate. Maybe the feds should just butt out for once and let the infinitely more advanced race fighting your biggest enemies do what needs to be done. Maybe even show a little gratitude rather than trying, in effect, HELP THE BORG.
I love this theory. Please cryptic, use it in game and give em a legacy pack as a thank you.
There are some sceens in game which support this theory actually. Remember when we first teleport into the jenolan sphere? Suddenly the voth citadel is able to hold us in a tractor, shut down all our vital systems and act like we're an insect. Maybe the jenolan sphere was still powering up, and couldnt enable the dampening field yet?
In addition, in step between the stars it is mentioned that the voth can see striaght through even the most advanced cloaks, but in the sphere battles (eg storming the spire) they cannot.
Either way, id like some explanation as to how the most advanced race in the entire galaxy can suddenly see their largest ships blown up by a single excelsior flown by a captain of average skill (eg me).
Back on topic. Love blogs like this, you should do em more often. Itll help newbies and those who didnt do certain reps yet get up to speed, while also adding more flavour to the sto universe.
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Sure, but if rifts could be opened to any point in normal space, they wouldn't have needed to travel through fluidic space; they could have just jumped in, and opened a new rift to the Alpha Quadrant.
They never even raised the possibility with fake Boothby (they'll attack the Borg to try and steal a transwarp coil, but won't even politely ask non hostile Undine if they could 'maybe possibly use fluidic space to get home faster if it's not too much trouble').
Well, on one hand iirc Janeway was trying to convince them that Starfleet was not planning an invasion of their space. Boothby seemed certain the higher ups wouldn't be convinced anyway. I don't imagine this going over well:
"hey boss, those guys that blew up a dozen of our ships before are telling us they're not planning an invasion. Btw they want us to let them back in so they can hop back to HQ real quick to not plan that invasion. heheh uhh" *executed for incompetence*
Also, I wonder about the Voth having trouble with the Borg. I mean they seem to have transwarp without the use of conduits and infinitely better sensors. They could just map out the conduits near their space and sling over with their full fleet at each exit point. A cube seems way smaller than a city ship too, and Borg tactics seem generally centered around having a tech advantage over their enemies, and just powering through their shields and weapons fire.
I also agree that xiaoping has a nice explanation for Voth parity with alpha quadrant vessels
Paying attention to the mission and its dialogs is OP, plz nerd.
Guess it's one of those things we'll have to agree to disagree on. In the Episode (In the flesh)
Species 8472 had already been to the alpha quadrant and earth without needing to use any gate in the dyson sphere. it's a extradimensional realm, and most of it is still unknown so all we can do is speculate but we do know that they used quantum singularities to open rifts.
As to not asking fake Boothby for a path through fluidic space home, I don't blame em. Things were only starting to get amecable between them. "Boothby" Promised to talk to the higher ups to see if they'd change their minds, but couldn't promise they would listen, because he didn't represent all of the 8472's, some of whom still wanted war.
So I can understand not wanting to take a chance on losing Voyager. But to suppose that because they (Janeway and company) didn't ask for a ride home that the 8472's can't reach earth without iconian gates in fluidic space is respectfully speculation at best.
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What... I'm awake yeah, yawn...
What did I miss.... Oh we already know all that. What was the point of this dev blog?
A test server is supposed to be used to properly test patches before patching anything....
It would be pretty poor logic to make that training facility if they did not have a way to reach earth.:P
A test server is supposed to be used to properly test patches before patching anything....
Which mission dialogue explained it?
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
To be fair, the truly casual player doesn't care about any Star Trek backstory; they just want to blow stuff up in space.:D
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
My character Tsin'xing
When all nine points are captured, players will be able to go after the Undines modified planet killers. There are three planet killers in all and players will only have a limited amount of time to defeat all of them before they retreat back to fluidic space.
That is a quote from the ARC Season 9 Blog 6 Xiaoping. OMG WOW XIAOPING, DO YOU NOT TAKE TIME TO READ THE BLOGS THAT WELL. BRILLIANT! Like everything else you post and blah blah blah away about. FAIL! GAME OVER! YOU LOSE! Please turn in your badge and accept your sign.
Which also brings up one more thing Xiaopong. They quoted, "Undine Modified Planet Killers"; which could mean part of a Planet Killer was taken and modified to an Undine ship, an Undine Ship was modified through Undine technology to develop their own equivilent, or also they took a Planet Killer an built Undine tech to adapt to the existing Planet Killer Xiaopong. But then again someone like you always draw their own conclusions and rejects someone else's theory or even opinion as complete hypocrisy
Like what are the Iconians doing while all these factions are busy playing space wars in their backyard? And the Tholians who've been pretty much left dry since harvesting technology on New Romulus, you'd think they would swarm to a sphere with all that juicy tech up for grabs.
Then of course the Borg, if they've been hunting Voth we should be seeing them in the sphere too - with the territory they own they must have come across plenty of gates by now.
My main concern here is where the story goes. I get the impression the whole sphere idea will be used as a crutch, and we'll have many more seasons in the future which basically introduces a new threat in a sphere some place - which will lead to an even more confusing plot when trying to tie it all together.
About Undine needing the gateway to travel to our quadrants... I mean fluidic space is alien to us, right? Isn't our space thus alien to Undine? Do they have it even mapped? And aren't they thus like ''Sure, we can open rifts to the other side, but who the @^%$# know where we end up? Its a mess! Its not fluid at all!''
Maybe they need like beacons or something to navigate it safely.