This is Sci-Fi. Characters die and come back constantly. J.G. Hertzler reprising his role as Martok would be pure awesome for STO and the KDF.
Cryptic changed the STO story to make "good" Romulans by adding clear distinctions between the Tal Shiar and Reunificationists. Romulans just used to be another "baddy" you fought after you ranked up from fighting "baddy" Klingons.
Cryptic should change the STO story for the Klingon Faction as well. Create a (more) clear distinction between the Undine Influenced warmongers (J'mpok, House of Torg) and those who fight with honor to protect the Alpha Quadrant (Worf, House of Martok, even Martok himself).
After many years I just created a brand new Fed and saw their new into, Fed Tutorial etc. IMO, the way Klingons are initially depicted is entirely deplorable. This needs A FIX more than any other bug in the game.
I understand. However, the story isn't about Starfleet starting a war with anyone. The Federation government is responsible for these scenarios. Any conclusion to the Undine story arc - and a final exit from the continued skirmishes with the Klingons - is for those high level, Federation decision makers to be sorted out in some way. By our Captains or some other means. IMO, at some point our characters have to interact with the Federation Council. And it's President. Let's expose Undine within the Federation halls of power as we are about to do on Bajor?
Then, maybe, we can enjoy escorting the Federation President to Khitomer. While our KDF character's escort J'mpok. Who is waiting for his apology.
Or maybe it turns out that there was no compromise of the Federation's leadership and this has all been fueled by a witch hunt for 50 Undine out there impersonating nobodies for the most part.
Well... the Feds would have been more interested if not for the fact that the Klingons killed off all of the known infiltrators with no solid evidence that there were more. That was the part the feds were upset about. The KDF DID appear to be chasing windmills.... and using it as an excuse to subjugate the Gorn.
I agree. At the time of the Gorn/KDF war, the Undines infiltrators inside the Federation were active, and only Chakotay, Worf a few others were trying to act against them. For example, ambassador Sokketh from Vulcan was very active to denounce the KDF/Undine war, and you may remember him from the Vulcan story mission, right ?
They convinced the feds that the Klingons wanted only war, and used false claim for that, as they used to do all the time. Pretty much like they did later when they restarted the war with the feds, they had claim on systems nobody cared.
But now, several Undines have been killed/captured. And the Federation acknowledge they were infiltrated by them, and they also think most government have undines inside the highest ranks.
Many officers you talk with are hoping the Klingons will stop waging war against the fed, and join them in the fight against Iconians and their allies/puppets.
No fed tinted glasses. What the fed did was a mistake, made by incompetent leaders and Undines. Just like the Klingons were as usual too much aggressive to be taken seriously.
But now, time have changed. Everyone can see that. Section 31 helped Worf to bring stability to the Empire. Shran, O'Brien and a lot of Fed high ranking officers want peace with the KDF, the Romulan are trying to be a force of peace between the 2, just like the Deferi, and finally, they make a lot of task force together (Borg, Dyson, maybe Nukara, and now Undine).
The Fed want to work together. Some Klingons to. J'mpok doesn't.
Honestly, I think the whole 'Martok's body was never seen' line was kind of poor writing.
Ding, ding, ding! BINGO!!!
People go waaay to deep into this, the only reason this isn't mentioned is because they forgot to write anything about it, or thought it's not important - Martok is dead, end of show.
Or maybe it turns out that there was no compromise of the Federation's leadership and this has all been fueled by a witch hunt for 50 Undine out there impersonating nobodies for the most part.
Federation Ambassadors, Starfleet Admirals, Councilours in the Klingon High Council, The Gorn King, Dr.Cooper the No.1 expert on Dyson tech......yeah, clearly nobodies. :rolleyes:
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Cryptic changed the STO story to make "good" Romulans by adding clear distinctions between the Tal Shiar and Reunificationists. Romulans just used to be another "baddy" you fought after you ranked up from fighting "baddy" Klingons.
Cryptic should change the STO story for the Klingon Faction as well. Create a (more) clear distinction between the Undine Influenced warmongers (J'mpok, House of Torg) and those who fight with honor to protect the Alpha Quadrant (Worf, House of Martok, even Martok himself).
After many years I just created a brand new Fed and saw their new into, Fed Tutorial etc. IMO, the way Klingons are initially depicted is entirely deplorable. This needs A FIX more than any other bug in the game.
Or maybe it turns out that there was no compromise of the Federation's leadership and this has all been fueled by a witch hunt for 50 Undine out there impersonating nobodies for the most part.
They convinced the feds that the Klingons wanted only war, and used false claim for that, as they used to do all the time. Pretty much like they did later when they restarted the war with the feds, they had claim on systems nobody cared.
But now, several Undines have been killed/captured. And the Federation acknowledge they were infiltrated by them, and they also think most government have undines inside the highest ranks.
Many officers you talk with are hoping the Klingons will stop waging war against the fed, and join them in the fight against Iconians and their allies/puppets.
No fed tinted glasses. What the fed did was a mistake, made by incompetent leaders and Undines. Just like the Klingons were as usual too much aggressive to be taken seriously.
But now, time have changed. Everyone can see that. Section 31 helped Worf to bring stability to the Empire. Shran, O'Brien and a lot of Fed high ranking officers want peace with the KDF, the Romulan are trying to be a force of peace between the 2, just like the Deferi, and finally, they make a lot of task force together (Borg, Dyson, maybe Nukara, and now Undine).
The Fed want to work together. Some Klingons to. J'mpok doesn't.
Ding, ding, ding! BINGO!!!
People go waaay to deep into this, the only reason this isn't mentioned is because they forgot to write anything about it, or thought it's not important - Martok is dead, end of show.
Federation Ambassadors, Starfleet Admirals, Councilours in the Klingon High Council, The Gorn King, Dr.Cooper the No.1 expert on Dyson tech......yeah, clearly nobodies. :rolleyes: