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I saw that a version of DC's superhero MMO made it to PS4. Any chance Cryptic is working on something like this? I'd love to see that. You could even sell it with a hardware keyboard with trackpad built in, with custom key graphics etc. Could be awesome Cryptic...!
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They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part.
was discussed before :P
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yep....for most PWE games maybe.
But STO? no, never will it go to the consoles as they are now....maybe in the future when consoles evolve to the Steam OS option, where Playstation and Xbox would be preffered OS's.
but right now the consoles are restrictive, rule ridden, brickwalled and not safe for MMO's that haven't been overhauled to work with said consoles.
also, power trays, etc there are a finite amount of buttons, it took me five days to assign every function in STO to branching buttons, A+RT let me get tray 1 etc
I'm going to ask a serious question - how is DCUO still running? I played it once and found it very poor.
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I mean, just think of something as simple as making the alpha strike. Tac fleet+APAlpha+Tac team+Fire on my Mark+Tactical initiative+tac team+cannon abilites/beam abilities/torpedo abilities/mine abilities+attack patterns.
Just think of having to activate all those abilities by manually changing your icon positioner and spamming the A button. By the time you will have everything activated, the first abilities will have worn off.
Personally, I believe STO is not designed for a console environment. There is simply too much to pay attention to.
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There is only 2 ways. Either make a bad STO version on console, that is barely playable, unless you plug a mouse and a keyboard, but then, why play on a console ? Or dumb it down on pc, so you can make it work on console.
The second path is usually the one devs choose. Just play skyrim or any bethesda game on PC, or capcom games. And the list go on. On some you have to deal with an horrible UI and inventory, on others, with a poorly adapted controls. At least with bethesda games you can download mods that get rid of the horrible inventory management.
Also, patching on console is a paying feature for devs. It cost a lot of money. I don't want to have a lot more patch because cryptic have to pay everytime.
Steam OS is not a console and this game already works in linux with wine and POL.
so realistically you can already play this game on your large TV with a controller.
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To be able to do an alpha strike, you just put your skills that have the longest activation time where they activate first, then just keep spamming the button. It is no different than someone spamming the fire button when they want to attack.
If I want to just link a couple skills Toa single button, I can do that also, so that they activate separately. The combinations are so varied that I can have so many combinations on my controller.
I even have buttons for my menu, map, UI, inventory, fleet window, PVE window, missions window, well, everything that you can open with a mouse, I can open with my controller.
Therefore, using a controller is not an issue, and the game will not need to be dumb down for that reason. The only thing I can think of that will need some help is the fact that consoles might not be able to keep up with computers as far as processing, and when a game reaches the point where computers can be upgraded to keep up with advances, consoles are left behind.
That is part of the reason I am not getting anymore consoles. You buy a sealed box tat you are not suppose to upgrade, no backwards compatibility for ones that like old games also, and you reach a point where you sit there watching computers advance, and get upgraded, and the console just sits there, till the company decides to make an upgraded version that happens so far apart.
Consoles are being made to be more and more like computers, it is just more cost efficient to buy a PC with a video card to hook up to your TV.
Why would anyone even ASK such a question, I don't get it. Does ANYONE really believe there is any possibility for this EVER to happen?
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Most of mmorpgs arent. That will be always the restriction of the videoconsoles. And unless you plug a mouse and a keyboard on the console.. some games are just impossible to play with a gamepad.
I sometimes wonder how some people can play fps games, for example in a videoconsole using a gamepad.. its just really funny. Or strategy games.. its just ridiculous.
But usually, people that are ok with this are people that have not real experience playing pc games. They will keep saying "nah, i play really good with a gamepad.." , without knowing the REAL difference and advangaje that it is to play with a keyboard / mouse.
Not to mention, even in the year 2014, still is not so easy to port a game like STO to a console. Its really really hard. For the requirements, and the vast space represented. A lot of games with such extension played in pc are not even half when they are ported to a console. Happened millions of times. And im afraid STO will be one of those cases.
Second, less people forget, the original plan for STO was to be PC and Console - all the original development for STO was built with that in mind before it fell through. I do not believe a Console version is going to be as complicated to implement as some think it is. There are many different ways you can set up key bind strings to do several actions with one button push.
With the new architectures, I think it could be possible if PWE/Cryptic/CBS and Sony/Microsoft came to a deal that everyone could agree on. System requirements for STO are not as high as some other MMO's and the new generation of Consoles have more than enough power to run it. Only thing I see where the snag there would be the OS the two systems use (XB One uses a Windows Variant and PS4 is based on Linux which is not fully supported by Cryptic yet).
The last snag would be the Online Requirement. With XBox, you have to be a Gold member to play games over the internet. I believe Sony doesn't require this, but gives more bandwidth/higher priority to those who are paying subscribers. Something would have to be offered to the player to compensate them for paying twice (Internet and Gold Access) to play the game.
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Probably for the same reason why some people ask how is STO still running, IP. You get to fight with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, etc. to fight Lex Luther, Doomsday, Bizzaro Superman, Doomsday, etc. or the other way around. There is not much difference between being able to fight in a Galaxy ship against the Borg or fighting with Superman in Metropolis.
You need Playstation plus to play online with the PS4.
Not for all games. Warframe, blacklight, and planetside two are all free to play online without psplus. If sto was to go to PS4, it would be free like those as well because it is free on pc, and sony said that themselves about all f2p pc games.
the architectures aside, it won't be feesable, I can't see how or why it would make PWE money to have an entirely new development and maitinence team for a console version of STO, they wouldn't be on the same servers as PC, they would have to buy and expend resources for a new Server.
also the factor that PS4 and Xbone have even more restrictions than their predecessors, though what people see in the news may be different, I read the Developer software and Matinence TOA, that thing is riddled with "do not do this without us saying so" kind of restrictions, so updating the already buggy game weekly would be topsy turvy for them.
finally STO was marketed at first (beta) to be PC and Console, but that is never going to happen now, too much has been done to the engine and the game is too large for consoles to manage right now, maybe when the game was smaller and had some controller support just fresh off the code it was concievable. but right now it will never go to the consoles.
and also, from a PC elitist who's built five steamboxes and two windows cubes, Consoles are a rapidly dying breed, their hardware as is right now is already outdated (xbone more than ps4) they are becoming more of a style option and less of a functional system. as it stands, the steam os option which is now more of an early evolution of what consoles will become.
IE Playstation, and Xbox Operating Systems for some price, and third party hardware companies making nice little systems at a prefference and marketable price. this is at most two years away, given how everything has progressed in the last few years. with that in mind, why switch to an ever slowing entity when they can stick with an ever eternal entity?
that's true, least then we'd have voice commands to assist.
though i really wish STO had one for normal PC microphones
Are they going next gen or PS3/Xbox 360?
Therefore, going to console will give them a chance to start over, and so things they cannot do now with the system used on PCs. In fact, there are skills and powers that can be redone to make things more equally balanced in the game. Not to mention, it can even give them the ability to redo the PVP system so that it can be more balanced.
It will take more time and resources to do start over from the beginning. However, with the cost of Zen, and the Dilithium exchange rate, it will bring them a good source of income because of how many people are still using consoles.
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eh.....you must not know how many are really still on and the cost it would take to do a full console rebuild, not to mention the demographic. At that point it'd be better and cheaper just to stick with PC. at least then they'd still have the freedom and already exsitsing servers. consoles are just too restricitve, and are the equivilent of trying to sell someone a G1 iPad.