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Nerfing the STF's
jellico1
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Season 9 Dev blog 3
One thing weve wanted to improve in STO is that every time a player queues up for an STF, there is no clear indication of what rewards will be earned at the end. There are base rewards and a chance to improve them by completing optional objectives, but beyond that there is also a chance to jackpot extra rewards. Sometimes you earn extra Borg Neural Processors, other times it is extra Omega Marks; sometimes you earn a piece of gear and yet other times the only rewards are the base rewards. Extra rewards have never been a problem, but they do cause confusion.
While updating the Borg STF rewards to include the new Daily Bonus Marks we wanted to remove this randomness. Furthermore, this provided us with an opportunity to further our mission in this reputation system redesign to make all reputations work in similar ways so that experiences in one can easily translate to another.
In our Season 9 update, youll notice that all the base rewards are remaining the same, as are the rewards for completing optional objectives. What is changing is that extra rewards found in the jackpot are now just inherently earned:
The chance for a piece of gear is being replaced by a guaranteed piece of gear. The chances of receiving the best possible piece of gear (such as the Very Rare Mark XIIs from Elite mode) are exactly the same as before.
The chance for extra Omega Marks is being replaced by the Daily Bonus Marks that are earned for the first play of a STF (or other Omega Reputation content) per day. This large, guaranteed, lump sum of Omega Marks dwarfs all the previous potential jackpots.
The chance for extra Borg Neural Processors is being removed; however, the related costs of all reputation projects are being decreased accordingly. The end result is that Borg Neural Processors will drop at a rate similar to Voth Cybernetic Implants and the Task Force Omega reputation projects will require the same amount of these elite rewards to the Dyson Joint Command projects.
Phil Gorngonzolla Zeleski
System Designer
Star Trek Online
Removing the dilithium from the STF's ?
I am not ok with this at all
This will hurt all fleets lrge and small in a huge way
How about remove dilithium from the fleet projects Phil ? that would be fair considering this nerf to our earning dilithium for our fleets
As a matter of fact how about adding the complete borg set as a 3 mission reward like the dyson set as well huh and not cost 100k dilithiun...add the KHG maco and omega sets in there too just like the dyson set
Is the 960 dilithium reward gone as well i did not see it mentioned for a elite reward what about the nornal STF reward ? is it gone too ?
I dont see anything exciting about this
So phil please explain how a Fleet earns Dilithium as a fleet for fleet projects as a team which is what fleets are all about.................
One thing weve wanted to improve in STO is that every time a player queues up for an STF, there is no clear indication of what rewards will be earned at the end. There are base rewards and a chance to improve them by completing optional objectives, but beyond that there is also a chance to jackpot extra rewards. Sometimes you earn extra Borg Neural Processors, other times it is extra Omega Marks; sometimes you earn a piece of gear and yet other times the only rewards are the base rewards. Extra rewards have never been a problem, but they do cause confusion.
While updating the Borg STF rewards to include the new Daily Bonus Marks we wanted to remove this randomness. Furthermore, this provided us with an opportunity to further our mission in this reputation system redesign to make all reputations work in similar ways so that experiences in one can easily translate to another.
In our Season 9 update, youll notice that all the base rewards are remaining the same, as are the rewards for completing optional objectives. What is changing is that extra rewards found in the jackpot are now just inherently earned:
The chance for a piece of gear is being replaced by a guaranteed piece of gear. The chances of receiving the best possible piece of gear (such as the Very Rare Mark XIIs from Elite mode) are exactly the same as before.
The chance for extra Omega Marks is being replaced by the Daily Bonus Marks that are earned for the first play of a STF (or other Omega Reputation content) per day. This large, guaranteed, lump sum of Omega Marks dwarfs all the previous potential jackpots.
The chance for extra Borg Neural Processors is being removed; however, the related costs of all reputation projects are being decreased accordingly. The end result is that Borg Neural Processors will drop at a rate similar to Voth Cybernetic Implants and the Task Force Omega reputation projects will require the same amount of these elite rewards to the Dyson Joint Command projects.
Phil Gorngonzolla Zeleski
System Designer
Star Trek Online
Removing the dilithium from the STF's ?
I am not ok with this at all
This will hurt all fleets lrge and small in a huge way
How about remove dilithium from the fleet projects Phil ? that would be fair considering this nerf to our earning dilithium for our fleets
As a matter of fact how about adding the complete borg set as a 3 mission reward like the dyson set as well huh and not cost 100k dilithiun...add the KHG maco and omega sets in there too just like the dyson set
Is the 960 dilithium reward gone as well i did not see it mentioned for a elite reward what about the nornal STF reward ? is it gone too ?
I dont see anything exciting about this
So phil please explain how a Fleet earns Dilithium as a fleet for fleet projects as a team which is what fleets are all about.................
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
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30 marks for your second STF................... and 1 bnp.............
wow what a exciting Nerf
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
So right now on elite you get 15 for the optional and 60--115 marks in the loot critter. I'm assuming this change and the promised big lump sum that will dwarf the other bonuses available you'd get on your first time that day will be >115. You'll still be able to get the 15 optional marks. Then, if I understand correctly, each subsequent play that day will earn you 60 marks with the chance at the optional 15.
And I think it'll just be one bnp per. No more chance to get up to 11.
Might get me doing more than rinsing the same 3 stf's though. It'd be good if there was an easy way to see what gives a daily big reward of each currency (dial, marks etc) for the first mission. I know there's the stuff marked as "daily", but that doesn't seem to do the job I want or have really badly explained here.
Hey ho.