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So when are Dilithium and Marks weekends returning?
ajm1067
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Having effectively nerfed dilithium mining by removing the bonus event from the calendar and exchanging it with a daily that provides no bonus, and just removing the bonus marks event, these various weekend events, appearing fortnightly thus far, have not made-up for the loss of dilithium and marks. I for one have been forced to change my game to make-up for the loss of dilithium in particular; and I resent that.
Another factor that is affecting my fleet, is that when we had bonus marks 3-hour events, we would tend to be on together, and run them together. Now we have had to look for alternate ways to keep the fleet events going. Again, it is the forced change that creates the problem and the resentment.
So why doesn't Cryptic help us out on this? Why don't you schedule these events so that we know when they are coming so we can work to the calendar?
Why doesn't Cryptic commit to how often these dilithium and marks weekends are going to appear instead of surprising us with something else that doesn't offer the same rewards?
Should I be the cynic and assume that it is because you want this new content to distract and make it harder for the players to work out how much they have lost out through these changes, in terms of dilithium and marks that they could have had under the old calendar?
Another factor that is affecting my fleet, is that when we had bonus marks 3-hour events, we would tend to be on together, and run them together. Now we have had to look for alternate ways to keep the fleet events going. Again, it is the forced change that creates the problem and the resentment.
So why doesn't Cryptic help us out on this? Why don't you schedule these events so that we know when they are coming so we can work to the calendar?
Why doesn't Cryptic commit to how often these dilithium and marks weekends are going to appear instead of surprising us with something else that doesn't offer the same rewards?
Should I be the cynic and assume that it is because you want this new content to distract and make it harder for the players to work out how much they have lost out through these changes, in terms of dilithium and marks that they could have had under the old calendar?
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Especially since we are getting ANOTHER expertise event although we already had one since the last dil and the last mark event,
Yeah, you get like 500-750 marks just by playing the ME 14 times (and be "somewhat" successfull in it) + 50k Dili + 500 fleet marks + 250 free marks + very rare DOff.
That is basically your marks week end, I guess.
Yeah, we've already imagined that in my fleet, and it hasn't happened. I don't tend to assume anything...
Here's some more maths for you. The dilithium bonus hour meant that doing a T3 fleet mine together with a visit to the Ferengi Vlugta mine meant that you could get 5080 dil in circa 25 minutes. Now you get up to 3480. That's 1600 dilithium extra I've had to find, per day, per toon, to meet my daily needs. The last dilithium weekend allowed me to stock up a little, but not enough to last until the undetermined time of the next one. I've had to make changes to my game play, and I don't want to play longer than I do already.
PWE doesn't care about the opinion of regular players. They're going for the microtransactions from the 2-week transient types. Think of Las Vegas--the regulars don't make the money for the casinos. It's the touristas each spending $20-$50 on their only visit. So PWE wants to increase turnover in the respect that it increases profitability.
Kudos on properly using the word "fortnightly" in context. Now to work on those long sentences...
Collateral damage. Call it "improved teaming," or some other thing. It comes down to this: DIL can be exchanged for Zen. Less DIL=less free money being given away, and more profit from REAL money. Cut the DIL rewards, rake in the real profit.
It isn't about distraction -- see above. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS MONEY. Gameplay, as an experience, is secondary to them. We (players) are a cash cow and they're milking it for whatever they can. Old clich
And where does your 14 come from? The days it takes? What about all the other days a dilithium event is not on?
This is what Cryptic is relying on; short-term maths like the above over long-term maths which shows that these events mean you are worse off unless you do more.
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To take it a little further, it would be 56720 total dil since you get 480 for doing it each time. So ~4051 per day for the mirror hakeev payout period. Fifteen minutes work for half a day's refining limit isn't bad.
Except, again, how often do we have these? Not often enough to make up for the long term deficit of not having the daily events. Again, short-term thinking.
As for comparing the amount with your daily refining limit, you still have to find your dilithium whilst you're waiting for the payout at the end of it.
More to the point, how long does that 50,000 dilithium payout need to last? When is the next dilithium event?
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You're looking at it TRIBBLE-backwards. They're not going to give you a bonus dilithium event in the middle of a dilithium event. They're going to wait until the 50k event is over and then put a weekend event back on the schedule.
The goal here is to not be doing the same thing every single week or weekend. You might get 1 dilithium event per month, 1 marks event per month, 1 exp event per month, and so on.
Right now the mi event is giving good marks and other currencies, and in 14 days it's going to give you a huge dilithium pay off. None of that stops you from doing the regular marks and dilithium events. The big event is just 10 minutes in your normal 2 hours of playing.
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Including the amount that you get as you complete the mission, it takes 21 days (20.25) to refine it, because you cannot get the 50,000 Dilithium from the beginning. That will bring the total average Dilithium (NOT Dilithium ore) to only 2,700 Dilithium per day.
Granted, this is still almost twice as much as one can get for spending the same amount of time doing some of the Ferderation, or Klingon missions that reward 1,440 Dilithium ore, it would still be nice to have the Dilithium event to run within a few weeks of this one ending.
If they did, you could make much more Dilithium than you can with this one. The Mirror Invasion Event is just a grind thrown in to give us something to do between the new content releases. They did it with the CE, Summner and Winter events, and the Anniversary events. They are all (even the new Anniversary grinds) just filler.
Every game has things like this. However, to keep players in the game more, and not get burned out on grinding special events like this all the time, it would be nice to see some planning. As it is now, it does look like they are just putting these events into a hat, and drawing the next event's name out.
If for some reason they cannot get the game to show more than two months at a time, then they should still be able to have both months weekend grinds posted when the next month comes up. I am also waiting till the Dilithium grindend comes to use my neural processors, and marks for Dilithium.
Till then, I will just keep collecting. If they wait too long though, I will have enough by the time it gets here that I will not need to grind for Dilithium till it comes around again. lol.
Tim.
...or the more I'll play something that's not swirling around the bowl on its way down the crapper. :P
It won't be until May at the earliest at least according to the calendar. It looks like there is going to be a repeat of the xp event before it. I kinda hoped that it'd just be a simple rotation so we could expect the dil event every 8-10 weeks or like you suggested at least show us the calendar for further in the future. I suppose it is still too early into the weekend event's lifetime to see the pattern, if there even is one.
We need (regular) mark events (back)!
You're not reading and understanding my posts at all. Who asked for an event in the middle of another one? It wasn't me. I want a commitment to regular dilithium and marks weekend events to make up for the loss of the hourlies, because over time - not just during the event that you keep referring back to - we are worse off.
But we're not, are we. We've had just one of each since the hourlies were removed. As pointed out here, it will be three months at least since the last one that we see one of those - if at all. We don't even know if they are going to reappear.
Yeah, right now. That sums up everything wrong with all your posts in this thread. :rolleyes:
You also missed the point that it still requires more time to do events that I was not previously doing in order to make up for the shortfall in dilithium in particular, but also marks.
And again, Fleets are being adversely affected by the fact that so many assumed from the spin put out that there will be regular marks weekends to do fleet events, when we've only had one, and don't know when - or even if - there will be another.
Whilst appreciating the new content, it has evidently come at an undisclosed price. We've been royally screwed over marks and dilithium.
Cryptic doesn't want the hourlies back. They don't want things to be easy for you. Their data shows that people are finishing the rep systems too quickly. It might seem like an eternity to those who have 30 characters, but to those who only have 1 or 2 they're done with everything in a month. You can literally do all the rep systems in about a month, and then you have nothing else to do at all. Thus the slowing down.
There is no shortfall in dilithium. I have 3 characters, I'll have 150,000 dilithium in a few days, and while I'm refining it I can focus on doing mark missions rather then dilithium missions. There are people doing this with 20 characters who will have a million dilithium in a few days.
Fleets are not being adversely affected. All the mark events are still there, and mi is paying out very good marks too. A player can spend 10 minutes doing mi, get around 4,000 dilithium, and then spend 50 minutes doing other mark events and have tons of marks and dilithium in an hour.
Tell that to the guys with 10 characters who will be refining 80,000 per day while spending their time making marks and fcs. I'm sure they'll see it very different then you do.
The fact is I haven't bothered with the past two or three weekend events. I don't need expertise and foundry missions take too long for me (some may be good but I don't want to spend 45 minutes to an hour playing a mission). I'm interested in bonus dilithium and bonus marks weekends (not just reputation marks) and that's about it.
And if they think that slowing down my dilithium and marks earnings will encourage me to spend money on zen, they've got another thing coming.
I don't mind different content - hey I like it usually - but the point is that it doesn't pay as well. As I said, we are paying for it with lesser payouts.
Ah, so you do agree that we are worse off, then? We have to do more to get the same.
Why can't they openly admit that is what they are doing? Instead of sneakily reducing the amounts of dilithium and marks available and leading people to believe that there will be regular marks and dilithium events that will make up for it? Oh, I know they've never actually said that they are going to make-up for the difference, they've been careful with the wording, but so many people have assumed, from what they have said, that there will be regular weekend marks and dilithium events, and that they will not be worse off.
It takes longer to get the same amounts. I don't have longer; I therefore have a shortfall.
I have five characters. And yeah, I will be using that 50,000 on my toons, but that's less than a week's worth of extra dilithium which will probably disappear before the next event can top it up, and I will be behind on my daily grind again, as I was a few weeks after these changes came in. So don't tell me there is no shortfall when I have been failing to make my daily quota on all my toons, which I was not before.
Fleets are being adversely affected. Mine is. It is a fact. I am telling you. I've already stated why.
My Fleet Admiral is one such guy and he agrees with me - not you.