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I have been in STO since late Season 6 So i know a good portion of the game and in this rant I will address some things.
1 Messing with things that shouldn't be messed with and ignore glaring bugs. While I will later get into more detail about the rep system it will be mentioned here. They are messing with the rep system instead of fixing known bugs, example. i minor but glaring one. In the 2400 series you have a mission where the dominion bridge is incomplete lacking it's textures yet later we see completed dominion bridges. Why was that not seen or fixed EVER?
2 Fleet bases. Why originally a great idea, every one was for it. How it was done though was a disaster. The grind clearly favored large fleets. Our fleet tried to do it but one of our leaders gave up and decided to merge our fleet with a larger one. due to certain issues many of us left that fleet after a short time and since our original fleet was disbanded we joined our alt fleet and recently finally started making headway. But the issue remains. The Fleet base was poorly done. Heck with the Rommies made playable the devs decided not to make them full independent faction, why? because that would mean new fleets and fleet bases thus more fleet grinds. THAT MOVE ALONE PROVES THE DEVS KNOW THAT WAS A BAD MOVE. But they still did it anyway.
How it should have been done was a scaling system. The larger the fleet the higher cost of the grind for you have more potential sources of resources then the fleet of say 6 people. Then they current system brought about fleet robbing. I guy joins a fleet. Takes all the useful items and leaves the fleet. Again great idea badly designed.
3 The non fed factions. Let's start with the a glaring fact. you make ANY trek game that is online. AT MINIMUM you need the big three. Fed, KDF, Rommie. But no. At launch you HAVE to play as fed then when at level 25 you could play as KDF and no rommies, Not smart. the devs always put the KDF on back burner for changes because they said lack of player interest in the faction. WELL DUH. If you have to play fed till 25 to get them some would say why bother. Thankfully they finally saw the light and made KDF choosable from the start but sadly that should have been done at day one. And the rommies. Another major error. Since the issue with fleet bases, previously mentioned they force the wrong choice of fed or KDF. If they did the fleet bases right they would have the real choice. not fed or KDf but Star Empire or Republic. that would be a more interesting story then the current one. but due to craptic stupidity this did not happen.
4 Ships, now ships is interesting. Frankly craptic needs to fire it's current group of ship designers. I mean with some work i made the Star Cruiser look good, but most of the escorts and the few of the alternate skins like the Galaxy's. Shutter. then there's the Regent. What an ugly ship but it's layout is even worse. first it's main special console is in essense eject warp plasma just with an explode option, wopee. I have considered the 180 quantum worth it. I still rock in my Va sovie. The the BO layout. You removed the sci LT for a universe. what's the likely out come? You put a lt sci in the slot so a usless move. the universal should have replaced lt eng instead and 2500 zen for this ship. NOT worth it. Then there's the Avenger the flying BRICK. That is not a starfleet ship at all. if the boxy defiant is more elegant than this TRIBBLE. Starfleet is about smooth and sleek designs. the ONLY exception is Defaint but she still has her moments. the Avenger is just plain ugly. Some even say it's Craptic's attempt to copy the Vengence. Why that's an ugly ship to. Devs there are PLENTY of fan made ship designs far better than what we see in game. find the good ones, ask them to use that design and give them credit. then get it in game. bingo problem solved. Heck there are still some cannon ships you have yet to bring in. New Orleans or even a Phoenix skin for the Nebula. Then of of course the alin ships like the Obliesk Carrier. or Shoebox as some all it. Really. Grant the ship is good but again design NEEDS work. And Thankfully you have updated the Gal X. THANK YOU. but it still has graphic errors. The Galaxy neck is wrong. the lance is off and the Venture skin the saucer is missing some windows on the bottom. Then the Galaxy itself has issues. Now the first Galaxy is fine as is but the refit and retro. too much in engineering stations. for being the second most powerful ship in the late 24th century she doesn't show it. My solution is like that of the BOPs in game. the KDF have entire class of ships with all universal stations. why can't the feds have one ship be like that. In series the Galaxy could do multiple things at the same time. so the best way to show that in game. have the galaxy of the zen types be all universal slots. But only the Zen Galaxys, (Why do you have seperate version of that. the Venture could have both antimatter and saucer sep) Not the T4 version or the Gala X's but the zen and fleet versions.
4 the Rep system. I was against this idea from the begining. I like the old store system. grant both cure elites were annoying but that could have been fixed. but the store was so useful. Most of my best builds came from that store. But no you had to bring in the rep system. And split the borg set. NOT happy with that. lost my borg shield regen from that move. but i like the cutting beam and plan to get the Vger torp. But now you want ot change the system and take away half the passive skills you currently get. you just told everyone who spent time and in game resources which includes dilithium that you wasted it with this ill planned system. You say you do it to deal with power creep and fairness to new lvl 50's. well what power creep. my VA sovie has had the same build on it since before the rep system. i think I only added the point defense phaser since but that's it and she is still a beast with that old buuld. and such a ship, with mark 12 anti borg antiproton quantum build should take out a fresh lvl 50 toon in the same ship for the weapons and gear ALONE would make that clear. Note since the rep system most of my latest ships are stuck with greens and whites of mark 11 or 10 gear when if in store version i would have most of them have mark 12 gear by now. Now the only power creep is un balanced weapons like elachi. they need to be nerfed like transphasic was. not this.
THey key is cryptic is that you get renvue from US. That helps pay your bills, pay your employee's and funds to fix bugs or add new content. Another major problem in this game. LACK of new content. instead we get grind after grind, which you now with your currently discourage. REAL SMART THERE. How long did it take you guys to add the Enterprise C mission or the rommies. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT NOT MORE GRINDS. MORE ACTUAL CONTENT. We like to wee where this story goes. Not a Undine griond, or a Cardassian grond but actual missions again. You have done this to an extent with dyson missions. KEEP doing that. AND STOP FIXING THINGS THAT DON'T NEED FIXING BUT FIX ACTUAL BUGS. You latest actions are causing many to say, no more money. thus you have lost revnue to keep the game going and updating. USE COMMON SENSE.
1 Messing with things that shouldn't be messed with and ignore glaring bugs. While I will later get into more detail about the rep system it will be mentioned here. They are messing with the rep system instead of fixing known bugs, example. i minor but glaring one. In the 2400 series you have a mission where the dominion bridge is incomplete lacking it's textures yet later we see completed dominion bridges. Why was that not seen or fixed EVER?
2 Fleet bases. Why originally a great idea, every one was for it. How it was done though was a disaster. The grind clearly favored large fleets. Our fleet tried to do it but one of our leaders gave up and decided to merge our fleet with a larger one. due to certain issues many of us left that fleet after a short time and since our original fleet was disbanded we joined our alt fleet and recently finally started making headway. But the issue remains. The Fleet base was poorly done. Heck with the Rommies made playable the devs decided not to make them full independent faction, why? because that would mean new fleets and fleet bases thus more fleet grinds. THAT MOVE ALONE PROVES THE DEVS KNOW THAT WAS A BAD MOVE. But they still did it anyway.
How it should have been done was a scaling system. The larger the fleet the higher cost of the grind for you have more potential sources of resources then the fleet of say 6 people. Then they current system brought about fleet robbing. I guy joins a fleet. Takes all the useful items and leaves the fleet. Again great idea badly designed.
3 The non fed factions. Let's start with the a glaring fact. you make ANY trek game that is online. AT MINIMUM you need the big three. Fed, KDF, Rommie. But no. At launch you HAVE to play as fed then when at level 25 you could play as KDF and no rommies, Not smart. the devs always put the KDF on back burner for changes because they said lack of player interest in the faction. WELL DUH. If you have to play fed till 25 to get them some would say why bother. Thankfully they finally saw the light and made KDF choosable from the start but sadly that should have been done at day one. And the rommies. Another major error. Since the issue with fleet bases, previously mentioned they force the wrong choice of fed or KDF. If they did the fleet bases right they would have the real choice. not fed or KDf but Star Empire or Republic. that would be a more interesting story then the current one. but due to craptic stupidity this did not happen.
4 Ships, now ships is interesting. Frankly craptic needs to fire it's current group of ship designers. I mean with some work i made the Star Cruiser look good, but most of the escorts and the few of the alternate skins like the Galaxy's. Shutter. then there's the Regent. What an ugly ship but it's layout is even worse. first it's main special console is in essense eject warp plasma just with an explode option, wopee. I have considered the 180 quantum worth it. I still rock in my Va sovie. The the BO layout. You removed the sci LT for a universe. what's the likely out come? You put a lt sci in the slot so a usless move. the universal should have replaced lt eng instead and 2500 zen for this ship. NOT worth it. Then there's the Avenger the flying BRICK. That is not a starfleet ship at all. if the boxy defiant is more elegant than this TRIBBLE. Starfleet is about smooth and sleek designs. the ONLY exception is Defaint but she still has her moments. the Avenger is just plain ugly. Some even say it's Craptic's attempt to copy the Vengence. Why that's an ugly ship to. Devs there are PLENTY of fan made ship designs far better than what we see in game. find the good ones, ask them to use that design and give them credit. then get it in game. bingo problem solved. Heck there are still some cannon ships you have yet to bring in. New Orleans or even a Phoenix skin for the Nebula. Then of of course the alin ships like the Obliesk Carrier. or Shoebox as some all it. Really. Grant the ship is good but again design NEEDS work. And Thankfully you have updated the Gal X. THANK YOU. but it still has graphic errors. The Galaxy neck is wrong. the lance is off and the Venture skin the saucer is missing some windows on the bottom. Then the Galaxy itself has issues. Now the first Galaxy is fine as is but the refit and retro. too much in engineering stations. for being the second most powerful ship in the late 24th century she doesn't show it. My solution is like that of the BOPs in game. the KDF have entire class of ships with all universal stations. why can't the feds have one ship be like that. In series the Galaxy could do multiple things at the same time. so the best way to show that in game. have the galaxy of the zen types be all universal slots. But only the Zen Galaxys, (Why do you have seperate version of that. the Venture could have both antimatter and saucer sep) Not the T4 version or the Gala X's but the zen and fleet versions.
4 the Rep system. I was against this idea from the begining. I like the old store system. grant both cure elites were annoying but that could have been fixed. but the store was so useful. Most of my best builds came from that store. But no you had to bring in the rep system. And split the borg set. NOT happy with that. lost my borg shield regen from that move. but i like the cutting beam and plan to get the Vger torp. But now you want ot change the system and take away half the passive skills you currently get. you just told everyone who spent time and in game resources which includes dilithium that you wasted it with this ill planned system. You say you do it to deal with power creep and fairness to new lvl 50's. well what power creep. my VA sovie has had the same build on it since before the rep system. i think I only added the point defense phaser since but that's it and she is still a beast with that old buuld. and such a ship, with mark 12 anti borg antiproton quantum build should take out a fresh lvl 50 toon in the same ship for the weapons and gear ALONE would make that clear. Note since the rep system most of my latest ships are stuck with greens and whites of mark 11 or 10 gear when if in store version i would have most of them have mark 12 gear by now. Now the only power creep is un balanced weapons like elachi. they need to be nerfed like transphasic was. not this.
THey key is cryptic is that you get renvue from US. That helps pay your bills, pay your employee's and funds to fix bugs or add new content. Another major problem in this game. LACK of new content. instead we get grind after grind, which you now with your currently discourage. REAL SMART THERE. How long did it take you guys to add the Enterprise C mission or the rommies. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT NOT MORE GRINDS. MORE ACTUAL CONTENT. We like to wee where this story goes. Not a Undine griond, or a Cardassian grond but actual missions again. You have done this to an extent with dyson missions. KEEP doing that. AND STOP FIXING THINGS THAT DON'T NEED FIXING BUT FIX ACTUAL BUGS. You latest actions are causing many to say, no more money. thus you have lost revnue to keep the game going and updating. USE COMMON SENSE.
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As for the ship dev ur right there are lazy n dont give u options in the ship tailor worth using because the difference is so small other people cant see it. Is any one 100% sure there seen a c-store dyson ship?
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Now for the real reson ive come on the forum I QUIT BECAUSE THERE STEALING MORE THEN HALF MY REP PASSIVES THAT IVE WORKED HARD FOR.
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TL;DR = the OP is angry because Cryptic are changing their own game.
Does that help?
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Anyways, in the midst of that huge monologue, I did find two things that might require some response. Sorry if this seems nit picky.
The first was your bit about the other two factions. You cite in your opening statement that you've only been with the game since season 6. Which becomes apparent when you mention the Klingons and level 25. A poster above corrected that, so I won't dwell. It's just at "launch" the Klingons were as noted unlocked at level 6. The level 25 thing came much later.
And the second thing involves your comments about ships, specifically your solution:
Cryptic has actually addressed this before in the past. Because it gets suggested a lot. There's problems with that. They have licensing and contracts for the Star Trek IP. And using fan based things creates legal issues that they tend to not want to get involved with. They did it once, with the Design an Enterprise contest, and it was both a success and a failure. And definitely a huge headache. But the designs that came out of that were the Odyssey and the Chimera. Two ships I'm pretty sure you don't like?
Anyways, that was a fan contest, with the caveat/disclaimer that all work submitted was the property of Cryptic.
Outside of that, they can't just go and use some design on Deviant Art made by a fan. Even if the WANTED to, they have stated they won't do it due to the licensing issues.
Another popular suggestion is for them to use player developed mods/kitbashes from OTHER Star Trek games. They've specifically said that this will never happen. Because it's from another game. And carries with it even more licensing issues.
So yeah, your suggestion there is popular. But something they've said they won't be doing. You may not like the Cryptic in house designs, but that's essentially what we're stuck with.
For me, I like the look of the Avenger. I don't own it, because I don't need it. But I'm generally OK with the Cryptic designs on Starfleet ships. The exception is the Star Cruiser. It's too flat for my tastes. But to each their own. It's certainly not something I get upset about.
Peace and Long Life!
Actually Oddy and Chimera are not bad. Regent and Avenger are. and I don't expect ship designs made by other companies to be in this game. But fan made. YEWS. And what legal issues, the ship design is owned by one person. the person who made it. I think they would be easier to deal with then activision or bethseba. If i was cryptic I offer mention of the person in the description and a bit of the money from the either from the sale of the ship if Zen ship or just a bit from general revenue. OR maybe HIRE the person. for their current crew is TRIBBLE.
And i actually did take a break. only dil grinding for oddy bundle. they don't deserve 50 bucks from me now. But some of my friends have gotten together and have a good time. one of them a guy from beta all say the same thing.
Then the stupidity of those companies and yet another point to me that the people in charge of these companies have no common sense. You give the devs time to get the game right or scrap it. THe devs should have been given time to have the Big three playable from the start. I ask anyone. How many races did WOW have at the start? I personally don't know never had the income for the game at the time. In essence CBS and Perpetual made the same mistake that EA made with Command And Conquer Tiberium Twilight. They wanted a game out now so they took a game ment for something completely different and slapped the C&C logo on it. Result the worse game in C&C history. So bad that the whole team was fired and brought in a new team. And EVEN Then they TRIBBLE up again by trying to make it online only. it never made it pass alpha before they canned that idea.
The question is raised is why are these people in these positions? The lack of common sense is astounding. They do things to hurt there potential revenue stream and say TRIBBLE you to the customer. IF they had done things even remotely close to right they would have had more money from me.
So please, keep your ******** at the proper people, don't blame the left foot for what the right hand is doing.
P.S. dont turn this into a "We pay the bills, you gotta listen to us" thing..... the only people Cryptic/PWE has to listen to is CBS.... if they dont want a certain thing in the game, you damn well bet its not going to be there.
Let me make one point. Cryptic does not care. They want $$$ from every elementary, junior, or high school student who are will to get Mommy/Daddy to pay, every non-thinking player, or any other no-brainer to play.
The points you made should have been planned from day one. The factions they should have made from the start are Federation, Romulans, and Klingons period. After a few seasons add Cardiassans. The game also should have been made in a sandbox MMORPG environment that is meant to scale.
Obviously, Cryptic lacks competence on a grand scale. Cryptic is now a gambling fest. Too bad they are going to strip what the veterans earned when the new reputation system goes online.
rep system
lack of bug fixes
dil costs for everything related to the rep system, and just about everything else
tons of content restricted to fleet holdings, so small fleets or soloers, cryptic/pwe does not want and actively tries to discourage those types of players from staying.
utter lack of end game content vs the amount of grind required for the rep system
a totally screwed newsletter system that works as if it's a government agency ie: never to barely i haven't seen anythng from them for months. not one mention of the event that was running.
so i updated and logged in to today, and wow, an event that i'm TOO ***** LATE FOR. but hey, i run it once cause i just wanted to brainlessly blow some stuff up, switch charas to run it again...and 'server not responding' dced, pop back in and server is STILL lagging bad.
before i switched charas, queued for stf's...and waited, and waited, and gave up after 20 minutes.
the game seems to be turning into a wasteland, bad decisions never corrected, full steam ahead eh?
cryptic actively discourages a whole segment of online gamers for...what? the restricted perks in fleets/guilds didnt work for pwe's game forsaken world (which is even a bigger wasteland now) and it doesn't work period.
end game grind without variety doesn't work, meh, nothing from s7 on has been a huge success has it? and cryptic, too stubbornly stupid to backtrack and correct anything. 'we have a PLAN" if that plan was to only have a select few players and alienate/discourage the rest...you've succeeded.
gg
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Its funny how , some texts that does not interest people, they are "walls" of text, other walls even more extended are not walls.
This is not precisely a "wall" of text, its perfectly readable.
I will because don't they test this stuff. it's clear and obvious bug. one that doesn't appear on a later missions for those dominion bridges are complete so why not this one. and even the time since it has not been fixed. Anyone who works on this game is a dev of some kind and someone failed here.
And yes we help pay the bills. CBS made this game to get MONEY. How do you get money? you give a service that people are willing to give money to. in the gamne area you make a game that people will want to play and give money to. Now no game is perfect but they should at least get better. The long going complaints from the players are these. Ground is TRIBBLE, we are over grinded, and known bugs are ignored and stuff that was fine is messed with, and lack of content.
ROFLMAO. That characterizes about 60% of the posts on this forum.
They really couldn't design the game back then the way it is now, because they had no time. They took over from another studio that had pretty pictures after years of supposedly working on STO and nothing else.
You are right in that they sold themselves as being able to do a new game quick. Turns out that they could, not that the end result was good. They had to cut the KDF down to a monster faction because they didn't have the time to do a proper faction. But it has gotten better, much better.
sandbox games are a failure for MMOs, I HOPE you realize this. Sandbox games will NEVER work as an MMO, ever again.
OP, DEAL WITH IT, if you do not like the way they are going, stop playing, no amount of ranting and raving will do anything, and this goes for ANY company, not just Cryptic. To be honest, Cryptic is a MUCH better company then ones like Anet (ones who made GW2) and ZOS (ESO developer)
Doesn't that prove there's an issue with the companies then? They are lead by idiots would shouldn't be in those positions. If I was a CEo i would give the devs time to make a good game. FGranted i would have to see progression but never annouce a release time till it's nearly ready.
Except the release date was done by CBS and the original company, NOT Cryptic/PWE, they were the ones handed the thing and told "you have a year and a half to recreate thjs game from the ground up"
Also, if you want to yell at anyone, yell at the higher ups in the company, the programmers and devs are told what they can and cannot do, and have no real control over it.
Also, WOW (you know, the biggest MMO in existence) still has bugs from release.
CBS is still there so yes they can get a blame for that. Cryptic has done much to fix the issues they were handed. and again it points to the head of the companies. Noticed i have not spared them in this either. to all companies is it really that hard to have even just one guy go over the bugs and spend a major patch FIXING BUGS. Each patch should have some minor bug fixes and new content. then maybe an occasional patch solely for bug fixing.
About the Romulan faction: Adding a third faction into a MMO is basically impossible. They would have need to rework almost everything. Not even Blizzard did this with MoP and they probably have around 20 to 50 times the manpower and money, Cryptic has. That had NOTHING to do with the fleet star base. Why would it? Making a model for a Romulan star base wouldn't have been that expansive in the first place.
I would agree though, that the fleet base system isn't well thought out. It takes small fleets to long to get anyway and in larger fleets you run into the problem, that people are hardly able, to invest in anything, because most things, specially the fleet marks fill up in an instant. I have to set my handy alarm and click on the button when the old project counts down, just to have a chance to get at least some marks out.
The only real solution to this is to open a second fleet and that can't be intended.
Another problem are the thousand and one small bugs and problems. The constant invites into empty sector alerts, the scrolling combat log, that makes it unusable and pointless, interface problems, graphic glitches etc. Cryptic should really sit one Season out to work out all the kinks that their game has collected over the year.
I rejoined the game a couple of weeks ago after like 1 1/2 year of hiatus and most problems from back then are still very much present. THAT is really pathetic.
Most of the other problems of the OP are more his opinion then real problems of the game. I actually like the look of my (Fleet) Avenger, sure it doesn't look elegant like a Galaxy or Ody, it looks more stout and powerful and it indeed is.
And if you buy a ship and if it is worth the money for you, is your own choice. They tell you, what the ship can do, how it looks and what setup it has. So if you think, that a ship isn't worth buying...well...don't buy it.
tera, warframe, both newer games don't have the bug infestation like sto does, you think it's some kind of excuse because wow has bugs that it's ok for every game to have bugs? would it be ok if you went to a movie and it frame skipped, had scenes out of sequence, some completely blank that that would be ok?
why do people insist on making excuses for a company that gets PAID to provide a service and you fanbois consistently act like it's ok for them to produce TRIBBLE. worse, make excuses for them.
you know what? if you ever need any contractor services hire me, i'll take your money and do a shoddy job and you won't have any right to complain will you?
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at least every time new stuff comes out they all had bugs from what i have seen . maybe just maybe fixing current bugs may solve the new ones? lol
I have been part of a mod team. we had only one coder. so yes it CAN be done. maybe not all the bugs fixed but one guy should be able to fix a bug in a few days then it's brought in when they do the maintence on Thursday. How many people would it take to fix the bridge bug. I bet it could be done in a day AT MOST!
YEAH, they REALLY do have bugs, and Tera has some other SERIOUS problems with its game.
Cryptic does deserve being yelled at for many things, but lately it seems like anything that anyone disagrees with is a failure and proves the game is garbage. Crpytic is in a rock and a hard place. keep reps as they are, yelled at for "power creep", make it better and more maluable, yelled at for "nerfing" them.
nope, you know nothing about fixing full MMO game codes. and yeah your right "A BUG" as in one, every few days, is quite accurate.