Ahh yes Trek was truly aimed for Adults, and not Children.....i mean it's not like a legion of Children born after TOS went off the air did not watch it, who are now adults on the forums complaining that younger people are getting into Trek. :rolleyes:
It reminds me of old people who wish the world was back to how it was in the good old days, like Leave It To Beaver was like how America really was in the 1950's.
Except for all the things that made the 1950's not so awesome. Like the fact the polio vaccine was just getting released and being crippled by polio was still a very real thing.
Or certain kinds of people with a certain skin pigmentation not being allowed to vote.
It's like we all have this romanticized idea of what it was like when we were younger, but we knowingly block out all the inconvenient parts of it we don't want to remember, because it reminds us that things really weren't as awesome as we say they allegedly were.
It reminds me of old people who wish the world was back to how it was in the good old days, like Leave It To Beaver was like how America really was in the 1950's.
Except for all the things that made the 1950's not so awesome. Like the fact the polio vaccine was just getting released and being crippled by polio was still a very real thing.
Or certain kinds of people with a certain skin pigmentation not being allowed to vote.
It's like we all have this romanticized idea of what it was like when we were younger, but we knowingly block out all the inconvenient parts of it we don't want to remember, because it reminds us that things really weren't as awesome as we say they allegedly were.
I didn't realize JJ Abrams made any Star Trek movies. I thought after making a few badly-thought-out television shows, then one sci-fi action 'splosionfest (couldn't make anything out past the lens flares), followed by his most important work (for him) to date: his Star Wars audition reel, named "Into Darkness" or something...
I bet since he turned star trek into star wars without lightsabers, he will turn star wars into star trek, (DS9 with light sabers) and since its disney, possibly TRIBBLE jedi and miley sirus as a Hutts dancer...or even as a hutt meh..
I bet since he turned star trek into star wars without lightsabers, he will turn star wars into star trek, (DS9 with light sabers) and since its disney, possibly TRIBBLE jedi and miley sirus as a Hutts dancer...or even as a hutt meh..
Ahh yes Trek was truly aimed for Adults, and not Children.....i mean it's not like a legion of Children born after TOS went off the air did not watch it, who are now adults on the forums complaining that younger people are getting into Trek. :rolleyes:
I never complained that young people were getting into Trek. I was saying how the new movies targeted younger people more so than when I was a kid growing up with Trek.
I bet since he turned star trek into star wars without lightsabers, he will turn star wars into star trek, (DS9 with light sabers) and since its disney, possibly TRIBBLE jedi and miley sirus as a Hutts dancer...or even as a hutt meh..
And don't forget that all CGI animated characters will have cute disney faces.
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Good news for me would probably be a new movie set in the original timeline. I really want more a continuition, though I think the cast of JJ's Trek movies worked well.
I won't take any bets on whether a director or writer will do good or not. I liked every movie I've seen from Christopher Nolan, for example, until the Superman movie, which I found very disappointing. (Even though it had strong aspects - like Lois Lane, world class investigative journalist, actually manages to figure out who Superman is, instead of being ignorant the whole time.)
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That's original. Scimitar is OP, I want a T5 Connie, mm bacon etc.
Anything else....
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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he's not leaving the project, he's just not directing.
I like JJ as a director. I watched the behind the scenes documentaries and the passion and innovation he brings is impressive. I think he did a fantastic job and I loved the films and im sad he wont be directing, but there are plenty of decent directors out there.
im sure whoever we get next will get just as much hate for not making a film that perfectly fits everyone's individual view of trek.
i see what you done there, covered your bases within haters are gonna hate by trying to brush off the tag within a persons opinion. jj didnt bring anything to trek, his apparent reboot was a failure by the fact he jumped off the side and head to star wars was proof he didnt like what he had clearly done or his opinion clearly didnt mean anything. sure hes a good director, but not with trek. never was. he tried to reinvent the wheel and so often the case of people stealing ideas its usually frowned on.
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Yeah, he's a great director. The look and feel of the new Trek films are great IMHO - just the right breath of fresh air for the franchise.
It's the scripts that have been let-downs - they just don't make much sense, they're a series of "wouldn't it be great if ..."s strung together with some runny plot glue. They stomp all over canon, they're just a mess.
TMP was the death of Star Trek when it barely resembled TOS and was boring as hell.
WoK was the death of Star Trek when they killed off Spock.
TSfS was the death of Star Trek when they blew up the Enterprise.
TVH was the death of Star Trek when they went back in time to rescue whales.
TUDC was the death of Star Trek when... well. Yeah. It was Star Trek V and lets leave it at that.
TFF was the death of Star Trek when they made Klingons peaceful with the Federation.
Generations was the death of Star Trek when they killed off Kirk.
First Contact was the death of Star Trek when they gave the Borg a 'face' even though we all know the Borg have no individuals.
Insurrection was the death of Star Trek when Worf and Data were reduced to comic relief and the movie itself was more of a long episode.
Nemesis was the death of Star Trek when the promised 'Romulan' movie was a rehashed clone and revenge plot.
Star Trek (2009) was the death of Star Trek when it was lens flares and Abrams.
Star Trek (2013) was the death of Star Trek when they whitewashed Khan and turned the movie into a fanboy YouTube video about how awesome WoK was.
I think a few more deaths, and we're eligible for a free zombie Gene Roddenberry.
You forgot TNG, which was the death of Star Trek because the captain was too old and they rehashed some TOS plots.
And DS9 was the death of Star Trek because there was no starship - to quote Voltaire, "Sisko's on a mission to go no bloody place/He loiters on a space station above Bajoran space..." And then they had a war, when everybody knows Star Trek is all about diplomacy, not shooting! :rolleyes:
And VOY was the death of Star Trek because the captain was a girl!
And ENT was the death of Star Trek because... come to think of it, ENT almost was the death of Star Trek.
TOS was the death of Star Trek b/c no jeffery hunter
If NBC had ever aired that first pilot, and there had been Internet forums, yes - that and they changed Spock's character and turned Number One into a nurse.
I'm reminded of the assertion that the original Doctor Who was Ruined Forever when they brought the time-travelling alien into what used to be a perfectly decent show about a London policeman walking through the fog....
If NBC had ever aired that first pilot, and there had been Internet forums, yes - that and they changed Spock's character and turned Number One into a nurse.
Some guy did a book that had Spock and Number One an item. I saw it on Amazon about a year ago and it got trashed with reviews.
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You forgot TNG, which was the death of Star Trek because the captain was too old and they rehashed some TOS plots.
And DS9 was the death of Star Trek because there was no starship - to quote Voltaire, "Sisko's on a mission to go no bloody place/He loiters on a space station above Bajoran space..." And then they had a war, when everybody knows Star Trek is all about diplomacy, not shooting! :rolleyes:
And VOY was the death of Star Trek because the captain was a girl!
And ENT was the death of Star Trek because... come to think of it, ENT almost was the death of Star Trek.
This is kind of funny, you know Enterprise got me back into Star Trek.
After Voyager I didn't watch any Star Trek for a long time. Voyager was a let down for me as it never took advantage of the potential it had. The other races were bland and I never liked most of the character's. I skipped over Enterprise because I didn't care anymore about Star Trek when it first aired. Then, I see that Enterprise is on Netflix and watched it all over the course of a month like a crazy person and love it. I have been re-watching the older stuff and movies ever since. So it did bring one person back to Star Trek.
Otherwise, far as the new Trek movie's go, even if JJ doesn't direct and they get a good Director and Writer it will only make the movie's watchable at best. Otherwise, it will still suffer from the same JJ verse issue's that came with the reboot. Unless they toss out all the things that happened in the last two movies and start fresh. That is never going to happen. So; yeah, watchable at best. However, here is to hoping that future Star Trek Movies are smarter than the last two.
Depends.
1.Is there a plan for another Star Trek movie?
2. If so, who is the director, and what is the plot, setting,, and timeline.
JJ has good points and bad points. I think he did very well replicating the synergy of the original cast... but it still feels a bit.. artificial (and the new take on Scotty just sucks). My big concern would be who (if anyone) will replace him... hopefully we're not going from the frying pan to the fire. Also can we PLEASE hire writer that can, at the very least, pass a Highschool Senior Physics exam?! :mad:
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It reminds me of old people who wish the world was back to how it was in the good old days, like Leave It To Beaver was like how America really was in the 1950's.
Except for all the things that made the 1950's not so awesome. Like the fact the polio vaccine was just getting released and being crippled by polio was still a very real thing.
Or certain kinds of people with a certain skin pigmentation not being allowed to vote.
It's like we all have this romanticized idea of what it was like when we were younger, but we knowingly block out all the inconvenient parts of it we don't want to remember, because it reminds us that things really weren't as awesome as we say they allegedly were.
And Star Trek really isn't any different.
Or the constant fear of nuclear war.
You mean she wasn't one to begin with?
I never complained that young people were getting into Trek. I was saying how the new movies targeted younger people more so than when I was a kid growing up with Trek.
And don't forget that all CGI animated characters will have cute disney faces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W7c8QghPxk
Good news for me would probably be a new movie set in the original timeline. I really want more a continuition, though I think the cast of JJ's Trek movies worked well.
I won't take any bets on whether a director or writer will do good or not. I liked every movie I've seen from Christopher Nolan, for example, until the Superman movie, which I found very disappointing. (Even though it had strong aspects - like Lois Lane, world class investigative journalist, actually manages to figure out who Superman is, instead of being ignorant the whole time.)
That's original. Scimitar is OP, I want a T5 Connie, mm bacon etc.
Anything else....
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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i see what you done there, covered your bases within haters are gonna hate by trying to brush off the tag within a persons opinion. jj didnt bring anything to trek, his apparent reboot was a failure by the fact he jumped off the side and head to star wars was proof he didnt like what he had clearly done or his opinion clearly didnt mean anything. sure hes a good director, but not with trek. never was. he tried to reinvent the wheel and so often the case of people stealing ideas its usually frowned on.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
It's the scripts that have been let-downs - they just don't make much sense, they're a series of "wouldn't it be great if ..."s strung together with some runny plot glue. They stomp all over canon, they're just a mess.
And DS9 was the death of Star Trek because there was no starship - to quote Voltaire, "Sisko's on a mission to go no bloody place/He loiters on a space station above Bajoran space..." And then they had a war, when everybody knows Star Trek is all about diplomacy, not shooting! :rolleyes:
And VOY was the death of Star Trek because the captain was a girl!
And ENT was the death of Star Trek because... come to think of it, ENT almost was the death of Star Trek.
Some guy did a book that had Spock and Number One an item. I saw it on Amazon about a year ago and it got trashed with reviews.
"There is no problem in the universe that can't be solved with a bribe, a paid assassin, or an overpowered fighter." - Chubain from Jumpgate Evolution
This is kind of funny, you know Enterprise got me back into Star Trek.
After Voyager I didn't watch any Star Trek for a long time. Voyager was a let down for me as it never took advantage of the potential it had. The other races were bland and I never liked most of the character's. I skipped over Enterprise because I didn't care anymore about Star Trek when it first aired. Then, I see that Enterprise is on Netflix and watched it all over the course of a month like a crazy person and love it. I have been re-watching the older stuff and movies ever since. So it did bring one person back to Star Trek.
Otherwise, far as the new Trek movie's go, even if JJ doesn't direct and they get a good Director and Writer it will only make the movie's watchable at best. Otherwise, it will still suffer from the same JJ verse issue's that came with the reboot. Unless they toss out all the things that happened in the last two movies and start fresh. That is never going to happen. So; yeah, watchable at best. However, here is to hoping that future Star Trek Movies are smarter than the last two.
JJ has good points and bad points. I think he did very well replicating the synergy of the original cast... but it still feels a bit.. artificial (and the new take on Scotty just sucks). My big concern would be who (if anyone) will replace him... hopefully we're not going from the frying pan to the fire. Also can we PLEASE hire writer that can, at the very least, pass a Highschool Senior Physics exam?! :mad: