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  • rck01rck01 Member Posts: 808 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Well, you won't want to be touching AP in PvP by next season, most likely. An entire set of passives designed to nerf the bejesus out of AP is coming up.

    Really? Can you elaborate? Or do you have a link to a blog post or forum thread?

    RCK
  • wolverine595959wolverine595959 Member Posts: 726
    edited March 2014
    Well, you won't want to be touching AP in PvP by next season, most likely. An entire set of passives designed to nerf the bejesus out of AP is coming up.


    Well good thing I am looking at Elachi Disruptor Decloak Alpha build with penetration doffs. :D
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    New rep intros some AP resistance or an option for it at least. If there is a upcoming rep set I'm sure it will feature AP resistance as well. + there are some people that use the Dyson Rep consoles that give defense and more bonus AP resistance as well.

    More proof that there will never ever be any PvP update. Funny to see them repeat past bad design choices. They added more power creep to offset the effect +plasma resistance on all the Borg STF shields had on pvp for a few years... instead of fixing it. Now they have went a step further and started adding weapon type resistances right into passive rep choices. So it seem clear they never intended to fix PvP in any real way. If that was the case they wouldn't have had such a short memory... I am sure it was only a year or so ago that they where talking about plasma issues in regard to pvp.

    All well... I know the other rep option at that level is more appealing so it likely won't be a big deal. However throw in the +AP resistance on Dyson junk... and likely now on Undine gear. I would have to guess AP will just be a plain bad choice. If you are in fact trying to enjoy PvP in this game.
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  • blessedladyboyblessedladyboy Member Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Yeah ap is dead if that goes live. Tying specific resistances to passives is incredibly bad design IMO.
  • iskandusiskandus Member Posts: 1,062 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Can anyone please post the link to the new rep tree?

    Thanks
  • captainwessoncaptainwesson Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    iskandus wrote: »
    Can anyone please post the link to the new rep tree?

    Thanks

    Yep! http://i.imgur.com/O0l9GMt.jpg
  • jedinikon420jedinikon420 Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    i would consider phased polarons, you give up a mod but gain a phaser proc, i use them on my jem dread and am very happy with them
  • jacknm1jacknm1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I just got AP on my healers so I didn't have to change weapons from PvE to PvP, now I got more grind and a new rep! Ughh


    And in regards to people getting their hopes up for a PvP fix...I mean...come on...really....I bet they do read these forums to everyone's disbelief, these are like the Comic strip in the news paper for them, or the jokes section xD.

    Also, get elachi, everyone has gone elachi xD, then when everyone uses it and it gets nerfed or we all get mad resists we can all wait for the new super awesome pvp breaking weapons to come out in S9 / S9.5.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2014

    And did folks see the T4 choice there...the feedback one? As far as this particular discussion goes and what that could mean for AP?
  • captainwessoncaptainwesson Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    And did folks see the T4 choice there...the feedback one? As far as this particular discussion goes and what that could mean for AP?

    Yeah I found that interesting. If you run AP, guess what?! Now there's a passive 20% chance that your supper boosted AP Dual Beam Bank Overload III 100,000 Damage (Critical) is going to hit YOU in the face. Bahaha, now won't that be fun??

    "I died"
    "What happened?"
    "I critted myself"

    Hmm, I wonder if it works both ways? Could your passive fbp hit your enemy and bounce off them right back to you?
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Yeah I found that interesting. If you run AP, guess what?! Now there's a passive 20% chance that your supper boosted AP Dual Beam Bank Overload III 100,000 Damage (Critical) is going to hit YOU in the face. Bahaha, now won't that be fun??

    "I died"
    "What happened?"
    "I critted myself"

    Hmm, I wonder if it works both ways? Could your passive fbp hit your enemy and bounce off them right back to you?

    Yeah, even with the 10s lockout...it still has that lolfactor potentially going for it. Have to figure they've tested it to prevent it causing a bounce - hopefully with everything that can bounce.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2014
    Yeah, even with the 10s lockout...it still has that lolfactor potentially going for it. Have to figure they've tested it to prevent it causing a bounce - hopefully with everything that can bounce.

    Lol, lets see apart from the feedback pulse, there is the Voth Shield. Has anyone ever used one person with FBP and the target with the Voth Shield to see what happens?
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    lucho80 wrote: »
    Lol, lets see apart from the feedback pulse, there is the Voth Shield. Has anyone ever used one person with FBP and the target with the Voth Shield to see what happens?

    DOFF'd PH, the Nukara shield...that Solanae shield, the Obelisk 3pc. While we can't slot multiple shields, I'm not sure I've seen anybody comment on bouncing between things that bounce.

    Then again, this one was pretty clear that it's directed energy - so it would have to be from weapons and couldn't bounce from a bounce.

    But speaking of FBP, with it chain critting - when is that determined? Does it roll to crit when they trigger it? Does it roll to crit on the first hit it bounces and takes it from there?
  • chrisbrown12009chrisbrown12009 Member Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    How would you guys rate Protonic Polaron? I am thinking or using it on my ADSD. I have a 26% crit rate. I have been using AP and i love it, but we are all about to get AP resists......
  • rudiefix1rudiefix1 Member Posts: 420
    edited March 2014
    me <3 protonic polaron turrets

    -proc is the same as with DHCs
    -[acc]x2
    -resA energy type
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