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I'm sorry if this is noob question...

samt296samt296 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I know your not supposed to post trade requests in the forums for out of game items... But is it against the rules to trade for out of games items with your real life friends? Just as long as it didn't involve anyone else in-game or perhaps you just don't tell anyone? If it's just a small friend thing and not a full on black market trading scheme is it still wrong? I know they do it all the time in South Korea... And since the items were probable purchased using ZEN I'm confused as to why they have a problem with it. So I suppose this is an open question. Can we? And if not than I'm simply curious as to why. I understand it would force people to pay real money for say Lockbox ships so it's simply to keep the games market free and seperate from the real world but any other reasons?
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    i would not post about it on the forums and i see it like this if done with friends what cryptic dont know want hurt them
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    If you have some rare mount in WoW and want to trade it with a friend that has a JHAS in STO, then it is not Cryptic's business. All Cryptic will see is your friend giving you a JHAS. As long as you are not selling it on E-bay or some other website, then it is fine.
  • samt296samt296 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    daan2006 wrote: »
    i would not post about it on the forums and i see it like this if done with friends what cryptic dont know want hurt them

    I thought so too but I would hate for them to find out and ban me, I really like this game and I have invested a lot of time and money into my account/ characters...
    "When people ask stupid questions I feel obligated to give sarcastic answers."

    Keltoi Class... fan design. You KNOW you want one In-game!

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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    samt296 wrote: »
    I know your not supposed to post trade requests in the forums for out of game items... But is it against the rules to trade for out of games items with your real life friends? Just as long as it didn't involve anyone else in-game or perhaps you just don't tell anyone? If it's just a small friend thing and not a full on black market trading scheme is it still wrong? I know they do it all the time in South Korea... And since the items were probable purchased using ZEN I'm confused as to why they have a problem with it. So I suppose this is an open question. Can we? And if not than I'm simply curious as to why. I understand it would force people to pay real money for say Lockbox ships so it's simply to keep the games market free and seperate from the real world but any other reasons?

    It is against TOS and EULA to trade real world items for in game items regardless of if it's on these forums or in the backyard of your sisters boyfriends nieces third cousin removed. There's reasons and I can pretty well speculate as to why but since I'm not the definitive answer I won't give those guesses out (and no it's not just for the money reason).

    As for "what Cryptic doesn't know won't hurt them" Yeah...posting about it on the forums tends to lead to investigations into your trades ;)
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  • samt296samt296 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    If you have some rare mount in WoW and want to trade it with a friend that has a JHAS in STO, then it is not Cryptic's business. All Cryptic will see is your friend giving you a JHAS. As long as you are not selling it on E-bay or some other website, then it is fine.

    It would be something like this... I'm getting into the JHAS trading business and you can only get so rich in this game. After a point I think 5 BIL+ EC would be useless to me.
    "When people ask stupid questions I feel obligated to give sarcastic answers."

    Keltoi Class... fan design. You KNOW you want one In-game!

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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    If you have some rare mount in WoW and want to trade it with a friend that has a JHAS in STO, then it is not Cryptic's business. All Cryptic will see is your friend giving you a JHAS. As long as you are not selling it on E-bay or some other website, then it is fine.

    typically virtual trading for real money is a big no no in the mmo market. as stated in the quote, but expanded on, someone selling their account for a specific sum of money, you can either report it to PWE for example and let them shut down the trade by closing the account and posting a message to ebay saying whats going on, or you can try your luck and likely end up with legal problems to solve.
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  • samt296samt296 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    askray wrote: »
    It is against TOS and EULA to trade real world items for in game items regardless of if it's on these forums or in the backyard of your sisters boyfriends nieces third cousin removed. There's reasons and I can pretty well speculate as to why but since I'm not the definitive answer I won't give those guesses out (and no it's not just for the money reason).

    As for "what Cryptic doesn't know won't hurt them" Yeah...posting about it on the forums tends to lead to investigations into your trades ;)

    I swear on my grandparents graves I haven't done anything of the sort...
    "When people ask stupid questions I feel obligated to give sarcastic answers."

    Keltoi Class... fan design. You KNOW you want one In-game!

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tell that to the toons of ppl selling a mount on Ebay for 600$ any one played wow know the ways around this type of thing
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    samt296 wrote: »
    I swear on my grandparents graves I haven't done anything of the sort...

    thats where i'd figure this conversation would go. any further need to keep this open? :P
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    daan2006 wrote: »
    tell that to the toons of ppl selling a mount on Ebay for 600$ any one played wow know the ways around this type of thing

    blizzard and PWE ToS maybe very different. it will need to be checked precisely, but i doubt PWE has that sort of tolerance Blizzard lets slide.
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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    thats where i'd figure this conversation would go. any further need to keep this open? :P

    Actually thought I closed it anyways lol but sadly no because this will continue discussions about policy that really cannot be discussed.

    The short version is no, you cannot trade in game items for real life items at all.
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