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Trek/STO galaxy vs. Real galaxy

lauscholauscho Member Posts: 79 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Ten Forward
So in light of having seen Cosmos, and my inherent love of astronomy, I finally decided to take on the task of mapping out Trek's galaxy over ours.

I used this map as my source for the real-world galaxy:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_universo/cosmos15_03.gif

And this for the Trek galaxy, which seems to be the most complete and informative map I could find, complete with Earth names for many of the stars, including Vulcan's 40 Eridani:

http://www.chartgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/star-trek-map.jpeg

Now I'm not sure if all the axes on both maps correspond correctly and that may account for some of the things that were off, but I combined both for a rather surprising result:

http://i.imgur.com/ySzzsIU.jpg

Quite a few of the star systems are actually in the right spot! Sirius, Procyon (Andoria), Aldeberan, Regulus, Arcturus, Beta Pictorus... all in the right spot. In other maps of the local galactic neighbourhood, Tellar (61 Cygni) and Vulcan (40 Eridani A) are exactly where they're supposed to be.

Quite surprising how well they mapped the galaxy to the real thing. Sure, a few places are off, and let's be real, most of these stars could probably never support an advanced civilization, but that's just another detail I love about Trek.

As for STO, the galaxy map roughly corresponds to the Trek map posted above. Only a few discrepancies like Aldebaran's location exist, but most of it's the same.

Cool, huh!
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    this thread is not what i hoped it was going to be :(
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  • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    You were expecting something about the Galaxy Class starship, perhaps?
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    This thread is not what I feared it would be. :)
  • lauscholauscho Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    tehbubbaloo wrote: »
    this thread is not what i hoped it was going to be :(

    Sorry, I haven't got anything to complain about in STO, especially about the Galaxy-class ships :P
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Well the STO galaxy map is based on the Star Trek galaxy Atlas that was released some time ago (the version I have doesn't even seem to exist any more) which, again, I build upon a map of the real Galaxy.
    It might not be 100% accurate, it especially does not include any recent discoveries since 1998 (where I thing the original one was released) but its close enough....
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    trying to map positions in the night sky to trek positions is like trying to breathe underwater. its not gonna happen, trek maps are not accurate as there are several, if you will, the andorian system should be in regulus, the bassen rift should be in the alpha centauri and galordan core is the opposite side of where it should be in its sector, the same with vega and pollux which should be between sirius and regulus and yet there are those who reference different maps.

    after observing a planetary system half a year ago with a rather poor telescope star and planets, as well as the gas balls of jupiter and satuarn and their planets, what i could see. thats about all you will get, but the issue is that by the time the light reaches to the telescope and translates through your eye to your brain, its taken what thousands of years? so what you saw could in fact be destroyed and no one will notice its destruction in the night sky for a few thousand more years or whatever the measurment is for light and lightspeed, whatever, it was meant as an example that trying to pin point all this from trek to real life is just not really possible.
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  • lauscholauscho Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    trying to map positions in the night sky to trek positions is like trying to breathe underwater. its not gonna happen, trek maps are not accurate as there are several, if you will, the andorian system should be in regulus, the bassen rift should be in the alpha centauri and galordan core is the opposite side of where it should be in its sector, the same with vega and pollux which should be between sirius and regulus and yet there are those who reference different maps.
    Not trying to criticize, but I'm curious to know your reasonings for this. Perhaps I'm missing some TOS canon details on Andoria or something...

    Especially when you consider how well these maps to match up. The real-world one is fairly recent, and based on scientific observation.

    And I chose my maps carefully. There are many official versions of the Star Trek galaxy, depending on the era, but in recent years I've noticed them starting to line up.



    And the other guy above him, you do the maps for Trek!? You, sir, are my new messiah.
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