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Aquarius Destroyer revisited (a proposal)

undedavengerundedavenger Member Posts: 181 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Federation Discussion
For those like myself that like immersion and want to occasionally switch my tactical captin from his odyssey to an escort/destroyer, the aquarius is the ideal one. However, as we all know, it is incredibly underpowered, especially considering it is a T5 VA ship that is weker than the Heg'Ta BOP.

I realize no one wants Fed cloaking (me too) so why not play to another strength and make the Aquarius worth the investment?

First of all, it could definitely use another shielding or hull increase. Maybe not up to the level of a Defiant, but still enough to make it last a few shots.

I think to make it more unique and competitive, there is one sure way to do it:

Give it some serious impulse and thruster power.

Make it super-fast and very maneuverable, driving the defense rating up. innate would be better, but even a special console would do at this point. It is touted as Starfleet's fastest ship, so make it that way. This thing should almost have innate, continuous evasive maneuvers going on. Fast, nimble, and maybe even a little wild to fly, with a nerfed inertia rating so it skids a little.

This would give it the feel of a very experimental new design, in much the same way the Defiant was always having power trouble because it was an overamped experiment.

The ship should be hard to handle, but very effecitve in the hands of a practiced Captain.

This, I think would make up for the lack of hull, full universal BOFF layout, and battle cloak that the BoPs have. This could be the perfect Federation raider, if it could be made competitive.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I think the Aquarius should get a Flanking damage bonus. That would offset some of the lower stats.
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  • undedavengerundedavenger Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I agree, considering the new raider-level content that is said to be coming soon. I think a ship with great speed and maneuverability is custom-built for flanking.

    Or at least the same +15 damage bonus that the other escorts have.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Maybe Destroyers will get a new mechanic like Raiders and Sci ships are getting.

    Unlikely, but it would be nice.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    edalgo wrote: »
    I vote yes on flanking
    Turning it into a Federation Raider might make some KDF players mad, but... I kinda want to see that too, assuming Destroyers aren't getting a new mechanic yet.

    +1 vote.
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  • nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It needs a lot more than just flanking. It needs 5th tac console and one more forward gun. Keep the paper thin shield and hull.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Maybe Destroyers will get a new mechanic like Raiders and Sci ships are getting.

    Unlikely, but it would be nice.

    Whether it makes sense for destroyers in the sense of plural makes sense...I'm not sure.
    The KDF ones and the Vet Destroyers seem to not be lacking anything...unlike the Aquarius.
    As I recall a DEV said the Aquarius would not get the flanking bonus but something unique to her while flanking remains exclusive to raiders.
    HMMM how about a second set of impulse engines?
  • undedavengerundedavenger Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Whether it makes sense for destroyers in the sense of plural makes sense...I'm not sure.
    The KDF ones and the Vet Destroyers seem to not be lacking anything...unlike the Aquarius.
    As I recall a DEV said the Aquarius would not get the flanking bonus but something unique to her while flanking remains exclusive to raiders.
    HMMM how about a second set of impulse engines?

    My point exactly. No cloak, but MUCh harder to hit. There's more than one way to skin a Targ.
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  • killdozer9211killdozer9211 Member Posts: 920 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I too believe the Aquarius should get the breen raider treatment as a non cloaking, but still flanking raider. It's right in line with the KDF raiders of the same tier, stat-wise, so why tinker with it?

    Making it a raider would also open the door for the possibility of it being made a frigate hangar pet. Just something to consider.
  • cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    killdozer9211 wrote: »
    I too believe the Aquarius should get the breen raider treatment as a non cloaking, but still flanking raider. It's right in line with the KDF raiders of the same tier, stat-wise, so why tinker with it?

    Making it a raider would also open the door for the possibility of it being made a frigate hangar pet. Just something to consider.

    I will only accept it as a frigate hanger pet, if they remove the lockout of saucer sep and it on oddy. A long with fixing its ai, and giving the console pet the same stats etc as the elite version.


    But yah the player version needs flanking... Its already got a bop like layout.
  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Flanking would make it just about balanced with Fedscorts. Maybe a hair UP, but only a hair.

    It would still be the worst ever raider, but as an escort she gets a bad rap. More versatile then a patrol escort, for one less rear weapon slot. Faster, too.

    Give her flanking and she starts to compete with the others, as well.

    Edit: Keep your Aquarius frigates, give me TOS connie frigates! We can't play them, let us launch them!
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