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Command, Operations, Sciences, Medical - four basic divisions on TNG+ starships.

projectfrontierprojectfrontier Member Posts: 0 Arc User
I will quote a statement made by someone I know who does not post on these forums but finds the arguments funny about "uniform color":

"Command, Operations, Sciences, Medical - four basic divisions represented on a Starship circa TNG.

Command wears red. They command the ship. The Captain, the XO, a handful of others who are the senior most (and apparently) non-specialist staffers seem to all wear red. They're paper pushers.

Operations wears gold. They operate the ship. Tactical, Security, Engineering, are all examples of these glorified button mashers. They mash buttons as hard as they can after the paper pusher says "MAKE IT SO!"

Sciences wears blue. They science the science. Sometimes they put a science in your science because they heard you like science. A lot of science going on here, but not much else. They cause problems.

Medical wears sorta-blue-sorta-green. They make you turn your head and cough, or at least they try to. You probably don't want to be alone with these people given how even their outfits cannot make up their minds about simple things like coloration - don't say you weren't warned.

It's that simple. Why do people argue about this? Even CBS recognizes this as canon."
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    nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Medical is part of sciences...blue.

    Wanna argue? ;)
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    projectfrontierprojectfrontier Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    nccmark wrote: »
    Medical is part of sciences...blue.

    Wanna argue? ;)

    You want to argue with me about a quote?
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    tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'd argue with him about the Medical thing... Medical is in sciences, they wear blue (well, properly the science/medical color is "teal")
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    nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,083 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Redacted so that I can leave people alone. But quote aside, the thinking is somewhat erroneous.
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    mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Science and Medical BOTH wear blue, or are you going to tell me that the only actual medical officer in the show was Beverly Crusher, as she was really the only one to wear the Blue-green uniform color.

    Also, Colors have changed even in the show, or do you not think TOS color's are canon?
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    protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    protogoth wrote: »
    Tactical/Security are combined, as are Engineering/Operations and Sciences/Medical. Command comes from any of the three.

    FWIW, the color they started using for Medical at some point in TNG was Teal Green (bear in mind that there is also a shade of blue known as "Teal Blue," so "Teal" by itself is ambiguous).
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    killdozer9211killdozer9211 Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    How many threads on uniform color do we really need? Can they not all fit in one?
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    sophus84atsophus84at Member Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    medical is part of science devision BUT has clearly a different color. teal and sci blue is not the same it can be seen in various tng, ds9 and voy episdes that some of the uniforms differ in the colors. medical also has its own patch in tos. it was always a own sub division and thus stated by rddenberry also needed a sllightely different color. its also mentioned in the special edition tng box and the tox remastererd extras somewhere.
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    projectfrontierprojectfrontier Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    tekehd wrote: »
    I'd argue with him about the Medical thing... Medical is in sciences, they wear blue (well, properly the science/medical color is "teal")

    Which part, the color or the division? I'm no expert but isn't Starfleet Medical an entire Division of Starfleet generally?
    nccmark wrote: »
    Redacted so that I can leave people alone. But quote aside, the thinking is somewhat erroneous.

    Does that mean you posted something inappropriate and you realized it after the fact?
    Science and Medical BOTH wear blue, or are you going to tell me that the only actual medical officer in the show was Beverly Crusher, as she was really the only one to wear the Blue-green uniform color.

    Also, Colors have changed even in the show, or do you not think TOS color's are canon?

    If you read the original post you would know that it's mostly a quotation of something someone else said about all of the threads about uniform color that have been sprouting up.

    The basis for the statement is based off of their knowledge of the production of the various series.

    I'll pass along your message if you like, they'd certainly have a good chuckle at your concluding argument - I mean that's just funny stupid.
    protogoth wrote: »
    FWIW, the color they started using for Medical at some point in TNG was Teal Green (bear in mind that there is also a shade of blue known as "Teal Blue," so "Teal" by itself is ambiguous).

    Odd quote, good point about teal.
    How many threads on uniform color do we really need? Can they not all fit in one?

    Lets go for one an hour.
    sophus84at wrote: »
    medical is part of science devision BUT has clearly a different color. teal and sci blue is not the same it can be seen in various tng, ds9 and voy episdes that some of the uniforms differ in the colors. medical also has its own patch in tos. it was always a own sub division and thus stated by rddenberry also needed a sllightely different color. its also mentioned in the special edition tng box and the tox remastererd extras somewhere.

    I noticed the coloration differences myself were fairly apparent on DS9.
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    tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I noticed the coloration differences myself were fairly apparent on DS9.

    Yes, the undershirt on the DS9 work uniform in later episodes went teal-green when they sifted from color-coded shoulders to colored under-shirtsshirts with uniform-shoulders; but Jadzia (sciences) wore the same color as Bashir (Medical) and later Ezri (Medical) when in the same uniform types. So there really is no difference other than the particular shade was different for science/medical (both) on that uniform.
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    shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Well all those retired pencil pushing admiral's have to have something to do, why not constantly scrutinizing the uniform color codes. :P
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