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Why are the lobi store sets rare instead of very rare?
merescintilla
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As the title says. 200 lobi crystals requires a lot of zen, but the weapons are only rare quality and comparable to other rare gear, making them uncompetitive with very rare quality gear. Why not make them actually worth the 200 lobi?
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P.S. I realize some of the weapons are fairly underpowered by themselves but with the right build they do just fine.
My guess would be that this allows for future profit with a "Turn in full set + X more Lobi for upgrade to Very Rare" somewhere down the line.
Uhh no the dps of the weapon is dependent on both the mark and the rarity, a weapon of higher rarity will do more damage than the same weapon of lower rarity when mark is constant. So the lobi weapons will definitely do worse than say rep or fleet weapons.
There used to be a picture here, but they changed signatures and I can't be bothered to replace it.
*points to Scimitar/Vesta*
Anyway, they'd be P2W if they were better than rep gear, but the weapons are definitely worse. I think the OP is merely asking that they be equal to rep gear (Fleet gear being ultra rare is already one mod better by default), it'd make people feel better about the lock box system. And given the severe lack of gear alternatives in this game, more choice is always a better thing,
Lol. But really, we all know who the real ferengi(s) is :rolleyes:
Even worse than normal drops. As far as damage output goes, they're between rare mk IX and rare mk XI/ very rare X, depending on which Lobi weapon you're looking at.
Of course they'll do fine. You can do fine in STOs endgame by simply using a set of common weaponry from the ESD vendor, but even with the right build and setup, you'll never get them to perform as well as fleet, rep or even high-tier weapons from the exchange.
And the difference in overall DPS between X, XI and XII is not that great anyway.
There are, however, some really nice ships and consoles in the Lobi store, that would wrk exceptionally well with some builds.
"Technically" this is precisely what it is NOT.
There is nothing in this game that cannot be acquired through in-game and consequently "free" methods ... That means it is most definitely NOT P2W. (I think you need to go and find a definition for that phrase)
Exactly. I would understand if the lobi weapons were too strong because you're effectively paying real money for them, but as they are they're subpar and not worth the cost. It'd improve the lockbox experience alot if they were actually worth something.
But if Cryptic wants to keep the players believing that every best piece of gear can be acquired for free, they have to give us an illusion that Lobi stuff is rare.
I don't know how the two perform next to each other. Never tried anything lobi-acquired. I watch out for Ferengi
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Except these weapons aren't meant to compete with fleet weapons, they're designed for something special, designed to go with set bonuses.
Maybe that's true, but even putting aside their cost, do you see anyone suggesting getting the non console pieces of these sets even for the set bonuses? I don't, because 1) the bonuses aren't great if you don't have the right ship for the optional 3 pc, and 2) the weapons are so bad you're basically gimping yourself for the bonuses (excluding the new Hirogen set which I have not looked at yet).
Ok Dyson Gravimetric Photon Torpedo or Romulan Hyperplasma Torpedo > Temporal Disruption Device or Elachi Torpedo. Any fleet antiproton dual beam bank > chroniton dual beam array.
So the Gravimetric Torp slows on hit? The Romulan Hyper Plasma torp has a chance to proc a stun?
Any fleet antiproton dual beam bank has a slow on it?
Here is a hint...the answer starts with a n and ends with a o...and it's the answer to all three of my questions.
So? The real question is are the lobi weapons comparable? Why can't I find anyone who will recommend slotting the lobi weapons over the rep or fleet weapons> Here's a hint... the answer to it is your hint.
Thing is, all that lobi gear is situational......
i did choose the TDD. I also chose the CDBB.
Because I wanted them for a wells and the set bonus synergises nicely.
Basically lobi stuff is usually an excellnt fit on one or two ships, with specific builds.
The set bonus is an excellent fit, but you're basically gimping yourself with two TRIBBLE weapons for it...
But then the secondary deflector isn't purple either...
well, i wouldnt say TRIBBLE.
The dual beam bank isnt that bad, I have it paired up front with a Voth AP DBB.
The torpedo is not a good primary torp, but not a bad bow chaser.
So, I have it at the back, alongside the KCB and the Omni beam from the Obelisk.
Slot the Omega torp at the front and I got me a decent lay out for dps, not an awesome layout but good enough. Alongside a bunch of tasty set bonuses.
Have not settled on the space set yet, borg for the tractor beam synergy, or adapted maco for a shield and torp damage boost.
Thing is, those lobi sets are not useless, just need a build that supports them.
All Lobi Consoles are blue. Weps and other stuff *can* be purple.
Yeah; except, in aft, the TDD will hardly ever fire.
But it used to be worse: when it first came out, it was boosted by Tricobalt dmg consoles; so it didn't even make use of 2nd set bonus (Chroniton dmg).
This solution is this. Equip one, look at the damage the tooltip for that weapon icon gives you in space. Then equip a comparable weapon and do the same. You will see the damage difference is minimal. Forget colours and what some dude told you in a forum about the theory behind lobi gear.
The only way to truly know something in any game is test it for yourself.