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I must admit I love the Romulan faction. Mainly because I simply love Romulans. However I have been greatly disappointed by the fact there is only one Romulan choice for a science ship. Admittedly the KDF should get at least one freebie science ship prior to the Romulans getting any pay science ships however having more than one option is necessary for the Romulan side. Especially since the Romulans have been known for their scientific ability and heavy use on science abilities in canon to fight in battle.
I would just like it known out there that the small community of science players would like some ships as well
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Whats everyone else's view here?
I would just like it known out there that the small community of science players would like some ships as well
.Whats everyone else's view here?
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If they do make it, I'd like to see it based on the T'varo/Daeinos aesthetic - kinda flat and with upturned wings.
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The ship has a lot of potential, good turn + battle cloak + access to warbird consoles, but in the end probably still loses out to temporal or voth science ships.
But to answer your original question I think the Romulans have enough for right now. Romulans make the Federation look neglected. I'd like to see more balance in BOFF racial space traits before the Romulans get any more ships. I'd also like to see the KDF get a string of 3-pack ships without the Federation or Romulans getting anything for a long while.
The faction is missing a lot of ships. It could really use at least 1 good 2 bay carrier, a generic destroyer (uni cmdr slot, tac ltcmdr, ... etc) that can serve as a sci ship, a real sci ship that is not fleet, and maybe 1 or 2 more "alternative" but similar ships. I would like to see them offer 3 versions of the haakona family .... kind of like the split ship gimmick but either it needs to give a tac cmdr for the escort slice, eng cmdr assembled, and sci cmdr for guardian, or it needs to come in 3 flavors...
I think we will see the gaps close in time.
EDIT:
just saw the dev blog on the free ship. It appears to be a sci ship with 3/3 weapons and a cmdr sci slot, ltcmdr tac slot. It appears to swap those and enable a built in cannon weapon to become a 4/3 escort morph (possibly, or probably, at the expense of a console?). If it has a decent second sci seating, it could fill in for rom sci captains!! If it uses a singularity core (unclear...) .... that will be interesting. A warp core, it won't be as good as existing cross faction options BUT this one is obtainable.
I noticed the romulan ship will have singularity powers based on this image. http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/58/25/5825312a1b3e23e9440ab4354a95a7801390590793.jpg
You can see it in the left hand side the singularity power bar.
The line shows deflector
Secondary deflector! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Then singularity.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
9 Consoles
3 Devices
4 BoFF's (?) 1 Comm Sci/Tac (if the blog reads true, those are interchangeable?)
And 5 (?) Singularity/Dyson powers even before any Univ/Sing console powers ...
...
OK, I'm in !!!:D
I do hope that isn't final... Ensign Engineering and only 9 console slots on a ship we have to grind for (1000 'Qmendations', with 400 coming the first run of the new mission, then a daily of 40). Does have Battle Cloak it looks like too, at least.
Plus, a couple of images above that screenshot there is a spreadsheet with the BOff layout, and it lists a lieutenant engineering station.
First, pure sci ships are a federation asset, and saying that all factions should have science ships is like saying that all factions should have warbirds or BOP raiders. I know we're already over that bridge but as a rule I do not think all of the factions should have a lot of science ships to choose from. Instead they should have native ships that are science capable.
And if you look at the lineup, almost all of the end-game fleet and c-store warbirds (except the Mogai) have the ability to slot LtCmdr sci and many of them can slot Lt and LtCmdr sci. That gets you HE/TSS and TB/TR|TBR/GW which is enough for most end-game sci. It sounds limited, but sci is mostly for control and support, while weapons are for killing, and the warbirds bring a whole lot more firepower than pure science ships that usually only have Lt Tac boff with 3x3 weapons and 2-4 tac consoles. Warbirds bring a minimum of 4/3 weapons and up to 5 tac consoles, and they all hae commander tac stations. My sci captain has a fleet dhelan kitted this way, and she blows through stuff way faster than any of my pure sci ships.
Whats missing from the romulan lineup is a warbird with commander level sci boff seating that isnt a space whale like the Ha'nom, that's all. A traditional 4/3 destroyer with a single cmdr sci and a uni lt would be awesome.
have you SEEN the anniversary ships? ....what youre asking for.....
It's coming....
Well, not quite. It's a sci ship that can downgrade its Cdr Sci to an LtC Sci in exchange for adding a 4th fore weapon and upgrading its LtC Tac to a Cdr Tac. So it's a science ship that can wear a destroyer "hat" when the time comes to shove out tons of forward fire.
like a cheap trick to do so. I think as a pure Science Romulan you just
need good power transfer, and have to bite the bullet and take the loss.
The power loss wouldn't be so bad if we could have Auxiliary Plasma beams
like the Vesta has for Phaser DHC's. As it stands, I'm not holding my
breath for that, and instead my Science Captain flies the Khnial, which
actually works pretty well for a Science vessel. No in-born subsystem
targetting, but she has some other nice toys and two extra weapons slots.
For raw damage I have other choices, and some day I might actually
choose to fly the Ha'nom, if I can think of a good reason to do so.
I also agree with this. Boff racials are good, the problem is the lack of space racial traits
available. Its something I've complained about for a long time actually. Its particularly
annoying since doff system was going to alleviate this, but the Department Head and other
such features were never completed.
KDF side likewise deserve more ships in their lineup. A Talon Dreadnought for the
Nausicaans is but one example of many I'd like to see. Maybe a little more story
to put the pieces together. Its a little sad that even today more of the Klingon story
is told by playing a Federation character than the other way around. What of B'vat
for instance?
And thats bad how? sounds like two ships in one.....
In his priority One interview Geko said these ships only have 9 console slots because of all the built in goodies.
link please. id like to read that.
I'm presuming that http://priorityonepodcast.com/po158/ is the interview mentioned. You can't read it, as there's no transcript (that I can find anyway) for this hour and fifteen minute podcast.
Definitely.
This is one of the reasons I stopped playing a few months ago. I got all excited at the thought of flying Romulan ships. Even saw an interview in which they explicitly said Romulans would have a sci focus. Then they launch with one measley science warbird which wouldn't win any beauty contests and is the size of a small moon.
I had to resort to saving up enough EC to buy a recluse carrier and while that's a perfectly fine ship, it doesn't feel even remotely Romulan or even especially Star Trek.
Yeah, those are (possibly behind the d'd) our best looking ships.
You've made my day!
That's a fine looking ship. I don't care for the paint job but hopefully we can apply the standard Romulan skins to it and if not there's always the Romulan or Reman shields.
I'd be delighted to fly one of those.
Consoles:
2 Tac, 3 Eng, 5 Sci
3 Tac, 3 Sci, 4 Sci
2 Tac, 4 Eng, 4 Sci
4 Tac, 2 Eng, 4 Sci
BOFFs:
CDR Sci, LTCDR Sci, LT Eng, Ens Eng, LT Tac
CDR Sci, LT Sci, LTCDR Tac, Ens Tac, LT Eng
CDR Sci, LT Sci, LTCDR Eng, Ens Eng, Lt Tac
Yeah it boggles my mind all the responses we get in these threads that TRIBBLE tac warbird is good enough as a sci ship because it as a lt cm or lt sci station.
Like tacs wouldn't throw a collective fit if we took all but one of their tac ships and changed the boff layout to exclude commander tac stations.
You're right that it's a bit limited and possibly even odd that the Romulan fleet would have so few options.
But it makes perfect sense from the perspective of Cryptic as a business. They'd be looking at ship choices and sales for the other factions and see that it's all tac, tac, tac, tac. Because tac is what is generally most effective for solo'ing content.
Though personally I wish they'd emulated the KDF raiders with their universal boff stations (all of them) and generic console layouts.
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Do you have more details on this?
This thread is old, and don't be surprised if it gets locked.
However the anniversary has been and gone, so it is only available in the lobi store.
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I would not mind seeing a couple more, of course.
My rom sci bought a recluse, if that tells you anything about the faction.