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A few times in my STO tenure, I've been hit by an escort coming out of cloak and sawing my ship in half with DHCs and nothing else. Or that's how it appeared anyway. I'm thinking of doing something similar and looking for information. 4 DHCs and 3 turrets, or quad cannons, or what? Does it work? or do you have to catch somebody AFK or have a sci ship in team for subnuc support? Is it a novelty build or viable for extended use?
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I think it could be improved with bo bleed doffs on an antiproton build. Use that omni as a trigger for the bo doffs.
Sure it could work. A tb to hold em still isn't a bad idea either
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As for the Boff powers. not sure what levels but tac team cannon rapid fire and attack pattern(I think as Dahminus said) Beta queued just before your decloak will rip an enemy a new one. I am also certain there is more in the powers that can be used but I am going off a friend's build that I am trying to recall from over a year or so ago. II recently saw him come back from an absence from the game to tear 2 Klinks in half in less time than it takes to recycle a fully skilled out tac team.
Power.... you want to keep weapon power over 100. Depending on what gear you have access to, that may mean 4 DHC up front and nothing firing in the back, or it could mean what you said (4 and 3 turrets). DC (not DHC) are less power efficient, same dps, FYI, you can look up the math and whys elsewhere here. If your power falls under 100, lose the turret(s). P2W engineer is important, and similar power tricks.
Usually a DHC splattering is from a cloaked alpha strike. Esp nasty is a scimitar with its cloaked console, or any cloaked ship with rom officers boosting it. Then you have nasties like alpha pattern and other buffs like rapid fire. All combined, most ships will die under the guns of a well built cannon ship's best attacks in short order.
You can't sustain the dps, that should be obvious. A DHC escort can sustain HIGH dps, but not THAT high. Eventually the cloak buff and other buffs & debuffs wear off, and you are just shooting. DHC are the highest dps weapons (with the worst attack width angle) so that is still as good as anything else. Cannons lose a bit of dps based on distance, so you need to get closer to your target, try to stay 5k or so away, less if target is not dangerous (bosses and whatnot can do strange things inside a 5k radius).
So, in a nutshell, you can't sustain that kind of dps but it is a valid build, not a gimmick.
And yeah, get the +dmg decloak Rom boffs (for every non-Tact station), for a wicked alpha-strike when decloaking. I do it on my Tal'Shiar Adapted Destroyer (comes with a cloak for Fed too). It's sick, really, what damage you'll do.
Quoting myself...ya this build can crack pretty hard shells
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An informative and useful thread that I noticed after posting. People should read it instead.
Dahminus are you really using DEM with an escort? addicted to Marion much?
Cannon fire without drain is pew pew deliciousness
You see my logic I hope?
Now imagine this.
Attack pattern beta3 into cannon rapid fire 2, cycle is affected by the two now.
Directed energy modulation(marion equipped) to beam overload with 3 BO bleed doffs equipped.
High yield 3 with quantum torpedos are launched
Bleedthrough doff procs, rapid fire cannons are now riding the bypass proc with torps on route.
As you out race your torps, you toss a tractor beam on your target...
I give you the Kamehameha maneuver
It is rather fun, indeed. And I am by no means the first to use that alpha strike...atleast I hope I'm not
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crf 2, lc tac
hy3, lc tac
bo3, lc tac
apb3, cmd tac.
So you have a tac with cmd and 2 lc tac stations ??
DEM + Marion was made for Cruisers. :P
I'd be curious how you do that, really. DEM1 requires at least 1 Lt. slot (and a single DEM1 to trigger Marion doesn't seem all that much). Hard to imagine you'd use a Lt. Cmdr Engineering boff in, say, a Universal slot; but it can be done, of course. Heck, you could make a Tact A2B build even.
No flame.
Yes, wait for it to wear off.
5s before it wears off at 10km+ activate APA.
4s before it wears off position for attack run.
2s to go, hit APO3.
1s get to within 3km, hit CRF 2, decloak and hit em with tractor beam.
Saw in half with 4 DHCs.
A better version is with 3 DHCs and a DBB with BO3.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
Actually I didn't say what rank of bo I was using.
I said bo with 3 BO bleed through doffs
@ meim have you seen my escort builds? :P
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If Marion had a partner it would be Dahm. He puts it on everything *looks at suggestion for HEC*
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
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He said 3 BO doffs no BO3, he didnt actually specify levels of most things either.
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You good do it on a chimera, Risian Vette, or HEC :cool: Guess what im going to try friday with my Tac officer :eek:
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Marion, 3 Techs and whatever else you want
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marion, 3 techs, rsp doff, dylrene
U.s.s. What Dahm Would Really Do
Single aux2bat to keep rsp/eptx/dem on global cool down but have the 30 seconders on double duty for gcd
plus lobi consoles because they are sexy
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Hey i was CLOSE.
You kmust have the squishiest of all the ships
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DHCs fire over 1s so it's not great. EPS level x 1 = overcap amount for DHCs
DCs fire over 2s so it's a tad better. EPS level x 2 = overcap amount for DCs
Weapons fire over Ys. EPS level x Y = overcap amount for weapons
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.