Fully Protonic Starship Weapons in the Future?

kiloace

How would you guys feel about starship weapons that are completely protonic (as opposed to protonic polaron?)

Do you think we could see the addition of a 7th base weapon type - that have a chance to deal additional damage to enemies on critical hit (probably double current, given the lack of the polaron proc) and can have 3 modifiers - in the future?

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virusdancer

That's a tough one. Would they add more Proton Weapons (like the Experimental) or would they add more Protonic hybrids of current weapons...I'd lean toward the latter, given the Tac consoles they've given us already, eh? So weapons that give up a mod for the Protonic crit-proc, eh?

Cause it's a head-scratcher why we have the others besides the Polaron/Proton consoles...

capnkirk4 wrote: »

Why? Do we need a 7th weapon type?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Directed_energy_weapon

But, but...there's many more!

meimeitoo

At the very least, I'd say, we could use true Proton(-only) Tactical Consoles.

warmaker001b

Doesn't matter if a wider Proton Weapon selection appears.

In PVE, you can make Mk IX common of any damage type work wonders even in "Elite" difficulty. Hell, you can make Tetryons work great in ESTFs if you're a competent player, because damage is damage. Proc and damage type is there for nitpickers.

In PVP, I have 3 words: Elite Fleet Shields
There are so many resists from even outside ENG Armor consoles and Shields that it all doesn't matter.

The only thing that matters I guess is the new form of pretty colors.

virusdancer

warmaker001b wrote: »

In PVP, I have 3 words: Elite Fleet Shields

Can I offer a single counter word? Bleed.

One can stack so many debuffs to damage resistance while pumping bleed (or shield ignoring damage in general), that shields schmields comes to mind. It's come a long way from folks complaining about chain crits from Breen Clusters and targets popping with full shields (though, the Breen Cluster chain crit is still there).

So either actual Proton weapons or additional Proton weapons...additional bleed...shields schmields. Imagine Protonic Disruptors, eh? Debuffs the hull for the Proton damage...break out the EWO(s) for some BO Pen loving, and yeah...

lindaleff

Pure Proton weapons could be a future addition judging by the existence of +% Proton damage consoles. As of the moment, these are entirely useless.

Take for example, Phased Polaron. Phaser consoles do not affect this in any way, only the Polaron consoles. The Dominion Tetryon-Polaron weapons are also only affected by Polaron consoles. The same applies to only Tetryon consoles affecting Phased Tetryon. So with Protonic Polaron, only the Polaron consoles have any use.

So if Cryptic gives us +% Proton damage console, this is an indication that pure Proton weapons indeed are in store for the future.

angrytarg

I hope they do, because otherwise the whole dyson set and their consoles are useless

lianthelia

lindaleff wrote: »

Pure Proton weapons could be a future addition judging by the existence of +% Proton damage consoles. As of the moment, these are entirely useless.

Take for example, Phased Polaron. Phaser consoles do not affect this in any way, only the Polaron consoles. The Dominion Tetryon-Polaron weapons are also only affected by Polaron consoles. The same applies to only Tetryon consoles affecting Phased Tetryon. So with Protonic Polaron, only the Polaron consoles have any use.

So if Cryptic gives us +% Proton damage console, this is an indication that pure Proton weapons indeed are in store for the future.

Except there isn't really a pure Proton damage console if I recall, it boosts proton and then another choice of damage. So obviously those consoles are meant to be used with your choice of weapon and the experimental proton weapon...and with protonic polaron, proton damage consoles affect the proton damage of the proc.

So I'm not seeing anywhere that would really suggest that we're getting pure proton weapons.

gstamo01

I think the next weapon type to get love will be the Phaser via Modulated Phaser Array/Cannon that additionally gives increased shield penetration and has bleed through dmg against Barrier Fields.


On Tactical Consoles, I think you will see a vast array of new Tact Consoles that boost both primary stat and a second stat for the hybrid effects.

onenonlydrock

lindaleff wrote: »

Pure Proton weapons could be a future addition judging by the existence of +% Proton damage consoles. As of the moment, these are entirely useless.

Take for example, Phased Polaron. Phaser consoles do not affect this in any way, only the Polaron consoles. The Dominion Tetryon-Polaron weapons are also only affected by Polaron consoles. The same applies to only Tetryon consoles affecting Phased Tetryon. So with Protonic Polaron, only the Polaron consoles have any use.

So if Cryptic gives us +% Proton damage console, this is an indication that pure Proton weapons indeed are in store for the future.

I've also come to that conclusion. Or else why would they even bother with a Proton weapon synergy with the new Dyson set?

breygorn

A long time ago, I though Proton weapons would be forthcoming...
take a look at the Subspace Field Modulator.

lindaleff

Indeed. We have this handy thing, but it comes with a -400 Proton Damage resistance that is entirely useless. Why do we have a -400 resistance to something that does not yet exist? Clearly, Cryptic was trying to find a way of getting Proton weapons into STO, even back then. According to Chaddington, Proton was supposed to be a Dividian weapon. But as we all know, Dividian ships never did get come into existence. And I somehow don't imagine Dividians use ships anyway.

Chaddington wrote: »

The Proton damage is a new damage type I have added to the game... I plan on using this when I can and when it makes since. So as of right now I would say your generally safe when using the item... being there is no proton damage coming your way.. YET!!!!! So I have added the Proton damage debuff as part of the Devidian Tech. You will learn why as the upcoming weeks release more info. It all fits in the story . I think it does anyway... (runs off and checks with the writers!!!!)

gerwalk0769

kiloace wrote: »

How would you guys feel about starship weapons that are completely protonic (as opposed to protonic polaron?)

Do you think we could see the addition of a 7th base weapon type - that have a chance to deal additional damage to enemies on critical hit (probably double current, given the lack of the polaron proc) and can have 3 modifiers - in the future?

I was expecting pure Protonic weapons only when they were introduced. I'd like to see a new energy type.

hanover

God, I hope not. I never did remember to remove that Subspace Field Modulator when fighting Voth ships.

hasukurobi

hanover2 wrote: »

God, I hope not. I never did remember to remove that Subspace Field Modulator when fighting Voth ships.

I don't know why you bothered to do that considering Voth ships deal... Antiproton damage... Not Proton damage. WE are the ones who shoot Proton and only us.