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Our experiences in the PVP queues have been very positive
hakanodate
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Hey all-
My fleetmates (Esquadrao da Morte) and I have for the past 3 days been joining the PvP queues (most of the time the Fed vs. Fed and Fed vs. Klingon Arena) and perhaps we've been very lucky but I just wanted to say what a positive experience it has been so far.
I don't mean positive in the sense that we win very often. I think we did 4 team matches last night and we lost all of them, the last one we were completely shut out.
I mean positive in these ways-
1) At no point were the other teams jerks. After almost every match, several members of the other team put "gg" in zone chat. I like that - it's classy, particularly when it shows some charity when they decimated us! ;-)
2) We're getting better. In no way should this be interpreted to mean we are or will ever be some sort of "up and coming" fleet threat in PvP. We're casual- I might even dare say lackadaisical- about this game. We'll do some grinding and we do mostly have Advanced Fleet weapons and/or reputation equipment, but personally I will not turn this game into a second job. However, our team play improved. Very simply, we implemented the very basic, bare-bones approach of focusing our fire by calling our targets. Yes, that's pathetically obvious but the fact of the matter is that with Nimbus pirates, gravity wells, photonic fleets, etc. cluttering the map having a focus of some sort helped cut through the clutter dramatically. We are not built for PvP (and never will be) but even the most basic team coordination made a real difference.
Anyway, I just wanted to post because I've been reading these forums and a lot of what people have been saying here make the PvP queues sound like a rather bleak place. My experience of it- as a casual noob who really doesn't mind having my rear end handed to me - has been positive. On previous nights, we've even handily won matches, so it seems there are varying levels of ability. If you expect to lose to veteran pvp fleets - which you reasonably should- and can deal with it, PvP might be fun for you as well.
I don't doubt there are serious jerks in PvP - I've been around the MMORPG block a long time. My point is that I've run about 12-15 matches and have yet to run into any so I think there's enough good people in PvP to make it worthwhile, IMHO. In real life I'm a Systems Administrator at a law firm, and my audience is a bunch of Type A Lawyers. Someone who is pathetic enough to be a jerk in PvP will invariably be nothing but small potatoes compared to what I deal with professionally.
So in sum - thanks to those of you who have PvPed me (character names Silfog and Noor, science and engineer respectively) and my fleetmates. We all had a good time, even when we were crushed like miserably cockroaches.
My fleetmates (Esquadrao da Morte) and I have for the past 3 days been joining the PvP queues (most of the time the Fed vs. Fed and Fed vs. Klingon Arena) and perhaps we've been very lucky but I just wanted to say what a positive experience it has been so far.
I don't mean positive in the sense that we win very often. I think we did 4 team matches last night and we lost all of them, the last one we were completely shut out.
I mean positive in these ways-
1) At no point were the other teams jerks. After almost every match, several members of the other team put "gg" in zone chat. I like that - it's classy, particularly when it shows some charity when they decimated us! ;-)
2) We're getting better. In no way should this be interpreted to mean we are or will ever be some sort of "up and coming" fleet threat in PvP. We're casual- I might even dare say lackadaisical- about this game. We'll do some grinding and we do mostly have Advanced Fleet weapons and/or reputation equipment, but personally I will not turn this game into a second job. However, our team play improved. Very simply, we implemented the very basic, bare-bones approach of focusing our fire by calling our targets. Yes, that's pathetically obvious but the fact of the matter is that with Nimbus pirates, gravity wells, photonic fleets, etc. cluttering the map having a focus of some sort helped cut through the clutter dramatically. We are not built for PvP (and never will be) but even the most basic team coordination made a real difference.
Anyway, I just wanted to post because I've been reading these forums and a lot of what people have been saying here make the PvP queues sound like a rather bleak place. My experience of it- as a casual noob who really doesn't mind having my rear end handed to me - has been positive. On previous nights, we've even handily won matches, so it seems there are varying levels of ability. If you expect to lose to veteran pvp fleets - which you reasonably should- and can deal with it, PvP might be fun for you as well.
I don't doubt there are serious jerks in PvP - I've been around the MMORPG block a long time. My point is that I've run about 12-15 matches and have yet to run into any so I think there's enough good people in PvP to make it worthwhile, IMHO. In real life I'm a Systems Administrator at a law firm, and my audience is a bunch of Type A Lawyers. Someone who is pathetic enough to be a jerk in PvP will invariably be nothing but small potatoes compared to what I deal with professionally.
So in sum - thanks to those of you who have PvPed me (character names Silfog and Noor, science and engineer respectively) and my fleetmates. We all had a good time, even when we were crushed like miserably cockroaches.
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Great post, it does feel a bit bleak on the forums most of the time.
Glad your fleet is enjoying it, and you definitely have a great attitude about the game.
GL to you guys.
This right here was the gem of the post, I love it.
It's great to see new blood in PvP, especially when it comes in with the teamwork mentality right from the start. If you would like any tips, pointers or simply have questions about the way this or that works. Hit up anyone in my fleet. Sad Pandas. We have an open TS and are always happy to help.
I suspect you'll be seeing quite a lot of our blood in PvP.
A very refreshing post. Well stated.
Good luck and have fun.
this is how 95% of matches actually end, unless someone gets really sensitive and calls everyone out and becomes the biggest troll bait ever.
awsome! your doing it right. you can avoid quite a bit of grind for decent gear if you drop some money on zen, and turn it into keys for EC or exchange it for dil
see you guys out there! cant beat the fun of good pvp matches
Hehe, pretty sure I got a taste of it last night. It was a fun match.
I love this part of your post.
Anyways, welcome to PvP. I'm gonna beat Antonio to the punch and say that you may want to look into the Tyler Durden channel. Fair and even matches, generally tends to be 15/14, no dealing with the randomness of the public queues.
I also would like to recommend joining PvP Bootcamp. Even if you plan to stay casual (nothing wrong with that), it can offer an excellent starting point to help you get into PvP a bit more, since you'll have more know-how on it.
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I think I and some of my fleet mates were one of those that ran into you last night. It was a fun fight, my fleetmates and you guys were pretty much even. At the risk of sounding like I'm tooting my own horn, I'm gonna go ahead and say it anyway, that I was putting my team ahead most of the time because I pvp way more than does the rest of my fleet (combined :P).
It's an honest assessment. I hope to see you guys improve and open a permanent residency in the PvP corner of STO.
Anyway, it was a very fun match. Kudos, and keep it up!
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I urge you to reach out to other fleets to play with, talk to members of the community and get involved in activities, a mixture of that can only help improve your experience and also your abilities
@Aquitaine985
Lag Industries STO PvP Fleet - Executive
A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre.
2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
Good attitude, you will go far. Hope to see you in the queues!
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@Aquitaine985
Lag Industries STO PvP Fleet - Executive
A Sad Panda of Industrial calibre.
2010: This is Cryptic PvP. Please hold the line, your call is very important to us...
I won't deny that we have the occasional squabble, but for the most part the PvP community in this game is well behaved. It might have something to do with that fact that the core community is pretty tight knit and focused on growing PvP. The fact that there's a subset of STO players who will demonize PvPers for anything and everything under the sun certainly adds to the motivation to keep things respectful.
In truth, a lot of the folks who decry the "attitude" of PvPers go out of their way to create a negative response. Many players in this game have an entitlement philosophy, and will come into PvP, get blown up, and proceed to whine or badmouth their opponents. It can go as far as "You're hacking you (insert several derogatory words), I'm reporting you to Cryptic!" Of course, this attracts less than civil discourse, and then those same entitled players will come to the forums and post about how PvP is full of TRIBBLE-holes. :rolleyes:
In truth though, if you're civil with a veteran PvPer he will almost always be civil back. If you ask for help, he will gladly give it. If you call him a dirty hacker, yeah, he might be a bit of a jerk back to you
I think we may have to run the project for widening the doorways now :P
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
you did face a panda 4 man team the other night...
we actually stopped on ts and said...wait a minute guys....premade...because we were just bantering around as usual.
my advice.....keep q'ing up. experience is the best way to grow.
ggs, and the pandas are always here to banter around with....if you ever care to join us for some friendly fire.
have fun kill bad guys
Welcome to PvP guys (and gals if applicable). Like Brandon said, we're only a shout away if you have questions.
Live long and pew pew.
I wanna say it was the next match I queued for, or the next 2 rather. 1 was close, the 2nd was the wipe (had a 4man going at this point).
But like I said, they seem to be coming into this with the right mentality, I'm looking forward to seeing what they accomplish.
Jorf's post is pretty accurate, I suggest you refer to it for your answer.
I agree with OP there arent many of loud mouths in PvP , there are more of them in ESD chat to be honest, and when I do come across at some raging poor thing I do as I do in RL just laugh at them, which makes them even more angry , dont know why
A this time i mainly PuG because atm I dont know when and how long I can play , and getting a team and then leaving in 5 min is not really , well, nice.
So far Im not even decent lol, Too use to flying lay back Cruiser FAW boats made me lazy so trying to fly 50+ Turn Raider is a chalenge , It turns great but Im sometimes all ower the place XD , owerstering and what not , especially when I have to wach out at 5 ppl around me that want to blow me up. But its getting better, and is fun.
This is my current build:http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=icicle_3238
ApA+DEM+CRF works nicely with DCs + Auh battery + Proton Barrage all applied from behind lol
I jumped in a allredy going Pug ( on losing side ) , warped in , looked at things to shot at , saw a Bug , used above combo , bug goes boom . And that was mistake since form that point all off the oposing team focused on me lol, till the end of mach ( which came fast ) i was runing for my dear life
Need to work on my piloting skills more, and Keybinds , The most of my deths are conected to me geting focused , and while trying to gtfo I click Evesive , skill gets Greayed but dont activate , that 3s that takes me to realize this and try to click again is enough to get me blown up every time
And yea Teamwork is op Cryptic need to Nerf it XD .
See you all in there.
- Ice -
This is a very unique build. I don't even know where to comment bud. All I can say is that i want to see it in action.
I honestly dont know if it would be good or bad. That's my honest opinion right now.
You might want to slot polarize hull instead of transfer shield strength and hope someone throws you a shield heal when needed if you keep getting tractored but otherwise it looks solid for what it is. This is exactly the type of build I was thinking about in the proton weapons thread either here or in builds/mechanics (It should be in builds and mechanics if it isn't) and yes it should really put pressure onto the enemies with a good crit chance.
Dunno about the gravemetric torp rear, perhaps a proton turret may be better as the 3 piece gives CrtD but that doesn't benefit the flow of straight to hull damage from DEM and Proton so extra turret = more dem and more proton procs.
I'll guess you use tactical initiative to keep CRF up when needed? How much damage does the Proton proc do with 5 consoles?
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
But to answer asked questions
Build Is special snowflake I admit , have yet to decide if it works well or not.
Yea TSS is not that neded on Dyson shield, with its inate autohealing , and I would probably be better with something else like polarize hull , or Tractor even. All that posibilities I just love Universal slots lol.
Im torn about torp / turret isue, I removed turret for torp because of 2 tings, first to get CRF on Experimental gun (it has fastest shoot / cycle rate even more than a turret and just 5 energy drain), and second to get lower power drain and that 10% CritD , but another Dem Procin wep might b better, I will test it out then decide
The thing about Proton Proc is it gets boosted by Proton consoles, but it allso scales with AUH power, so with all +Proton stuff I have, and at 70 AUH , it is at 300 against non VOTH at 125 Auh it gets to about 600
The Proton barrage is same it is allso afected by +Proton consoles and bonuses and Scales with Auh , it like proc is not affected by Wepon power but is afected by EptW , ApA, Tac team and other dmg buffs. Max demage in tooltip display I got all bufed out on barrage is 20 000 dmg ,and it affects 5 targets in front cone, is 100% ignoring shields , and can strip 1-3 buffs from targets
:rolleyes:
I dont mind warp plasma, gravity wells, tractor mines or subnucks its all legit tactics, I especially love having Sci on my team to do all that to others lol
Really I dont care about all that this is chese this is op blah, blah , I like flying this Raider and need to learn how, NpCs arent giving me trubles so I went where truble is to be found ha ha
Hello all, D'Darius here. I am not meaning to take your thread OP but I thought this is as good a place to commentas any. My fleet mates and I played our first PVP the other night. Edalgo and friends is who we faced. We chatted after words. He was very kind and offered assistance. It was a great experience. I/we really appreciate the offer (I will be talking to you, just have not had the chance yet