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Or does it seem the Fed KDF war is pretty much over. They have joint commands against the Borg, helping the Romulans and stopping the Voth from exploiting Omega molecules. Might as well reinstate the Khitomer Accords while they at it. I like the new stuff, but it seems the Federation and Klingon Empire are being too buddy buddy for supposedly being at war. Cryptic could have taken a page from World of War Craft and had separate staging areas on opposite sides of the Dyson Sphere for Fed and KDF. And then put a contested zone in the middle with side missions (missions not required to do, but that give big rewards). In this contested zone it would be free for all PVP and PVE for both space and ground. It just seems that the war between the Federation and Klingon Empire is too important to just ignore; which seems to be the case at the moment. I hope the PVP revamp reignites the war that STO was originally designed around. Just my thoughts on it. I don't usually post, but this has been bugging me for awhile.
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Borg are Bad, so are Undine and so are Omega Particles. That is something that all three factions agree with and is something that would concern them enough that they would put (at least in this stage of the game) aside their bickering to work together towards a common goal.
I would expect the war to be over and more collaboration into the future maybe even a storyline focussing around it being officially ended.
As for WoW, I'm not a WoW player myself but it is my understanding that in the End Game the Orcish Horde and the Alliance have pretty much done the same thing and are focussing on these things of potentially apocalyptic proportions.
If anything, the Klingons are more like strong allies to the federation, and the only thing even remotely being warlike is player versus player.
Or am I wrong with this?
I think during the Klingon Livestream a couple of weeks back that it was mentioned that they are looking into bringing the war to an end.
I think you are wrong - The first mission you have as a Romulan after picking a side, you head back to your own planet and find troops of the opposing faction being led by a Romulan Captain who picked them. Which sort of makes sense - We've only been part of The Republic for 5 minutes, and whilst we are highly capable (Though my Captain is doing her best to disprove this at the moment), we can't be expected to be setting policy that will affect the entire Romulan people from there on out.
But having The Republic playing both sides is ridiculous as well...
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That would of been during the PWE days when the devs were working with a very small and underbudgeted team compared to today.
That said the war never really started, if you are blue side you fight the KDF early on before moving on to more import things like the true way, devidians and so on. As red side you do a couple of raids and attacks on Starfleet before moving on to the same bigger threats.
While the few KDF missions were especially well done and fun there is no where near enough of them for the scope of a war. The Fed ones have been there since the beginning of the game and never changed or built upon.
That makes sense. I would like to see a Feature Episode officially ending the war; maybe something with the Iconians or Borg. With the Federation President and Klingon Chancellor reinstating the Khitomer Accords as a cutscene at the end.
It would be nice for them to tie up the loose end that is the Fed vs KDF war. It is a rather big loose end to leave hanging out there for this long.
the feds would never engage openly in a war if there was not other choice presented. they prefer to have their peace, diplomacy, exploration and studies. so this idea about federation officers murdering millions is just as absurd.
plenty of element that never made much sense on sto, but that part - the war, not sure what cryptic were thinking.
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Well, being honest though, the game slightly more accurately reflects the RR position, than you think. Sure the PLAYER (or character more accurately) makes a choice. But their are hundreds of ships and captains, all making their choices. And D'Tan is waiting to see how things pan out with that. Your character's choice, doesn't determine the whole course of the RR, only what's available to you. I mean, you did see NPC Fed AND NPC Klin on New Romulus didn't you? At the same time. Sure, they might not be drinking buds, but they aren't shooting each other either.
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Cryptic probably thought all the factions in Qs winter wonderland getting along and teaming up against snowmen monsters was a better idea than an intergalactic war between two equally powerful factions.
Hell no!
Also no. PvP needs to stay in a box, as far away from PvE gameplay as it can get. If you ever played SWG, then you know the awful travesty that was the "Restuss Invasion" content. PvE and PvP do not mix, and attempts to force them to just result in massive ganking everywhere and no meaningful gameplay for either preferred style of gameplay.
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you mean the Atari days..... we are in the PWE days. Atari was so damn cheap the dev's could do little more than keep the lights on for a while.
However, my level 17 Gorn recently got done terrorizin...um, patriotically destroying a significant portion of Utopia Planatia. I'd hardly call that an end to the war.
If the Devs are seeking a way to bring the war to an end, I hope that is actually reflected in the character advancement. Each character running through the timeline from clear invasions such as the Utopia Planatia incident to reduced hostilities as facts are learned as to how the war really came about, to negotiation table by level 50.
I played SWG from launch. Thought the CU was ok but the NGE sucked until they fixed it a bit. PVP was not forced in Restuss. You had to go SF to be ganked. Restuss was designed for a mix of PVE missions with the chance of PVP, but nothing required anyone to do it. Was a choice unless you played Jedi and needed the Jinzu saber for the upgraded 5 pearl saber. The saber was made that way to be difficult to get, but it was not overly hard you only needed to hit the Emperor's Hand to loot the Jinzu. PVP was optional in SWG except inside the Restuss zone or the static bases. STO needs world PVP to bring a real war feel to the game if they want to continue the Fed vs KDF war. But it should be optional to do. But, if you enter the war zone you are free game. I liked the idea of PVP maybe catching me off guard in SWG; it is why I played BH since the launch. Of course it was bugged for awhile until Jedi started to unlock. On Bria server we were very much into PVP in SWG. STO really could use a whole zone were PVP is always a possibility rather than boxed in Arenas and small zones like Kervatt. We need a zone like Dyson with PVE missions with PVP players trying to prevent the other side reaching their goals that is big and open all the time. Not queued like now. The arena matches should stay, but an open world zone would make PVP much more fun and realistic where you might get killed while doing something or do the killing by trying to prevent the other faction from doing things. Just my thought to make the war feel like a war.
Consider: So long as there are Republic forces working with both Starfleet and the KDF, if either side tried to launch an attack against Mol'Rihan, it would find its own fleet riddled with moles. For that matter, if either side tries to take the war "hot" after the Republic joins in, they'll find Republic commanders on one side refusing to fire at their comrades on the other side. And no politician will ever start a war without knowing that he has the full support of his forces.
Consider further: D'Tan keeps promising to share Romulan technology with his allies. I don't see a lot of Federation ships packing cloaks, do you? Or Klingon ships with the power of a singularity drive (seriously, a device that builds up energy as you fight, and can then release that energy either as an explosive burst or as a massive reinforcement of shields and integrity fields - how many of their own children do you think the shipwrights at Qo'noS would sell for that?). Republic ships have free access to First City and Earth Spacedock - but neither of the "major" powers can come to Republic Command. Sounds like the old Unificationist has things well in hand...
Just one of those things that really wasn't expanded on enough? Like all those story episode arcs that end with no conclusion to the story?
I'm still waiting to find out what the hell happened to Empress Sela at the end of the Cutting the Cord episode. That's the last time we see her in game. Her ship is towed by an alien vessel into a gate in an asteroid. How long ago was that episode added to the game?
That's the problem with STO. The story arcs start out good but then suddenly it's over and you're starting into another story. Or the story just suddenly ends with no climactic resolution.
Though I will admit the story where DS9 is taken over and you gotta work to get it back was probably the best storyline in the game.
Everything after that were just 4 or 5 part episodes that had short stories. I was very disappointed when first playing the game and I got to the Borg Collective story after the DS9 arc. All episode sections from Klingon War up to Cardassian Struggle had a lot of episodes (excluding Wasteland that was introduced with LoR). Then you get to the Borg Collective and the first episode is to just go talk to an NPC. Then it has a measly 3 episodes. Breen Invasion - 5 episodes. Undine Invasion - 4 episodes.
Everything after the Second Wave episode gave me the impression Cryptic stopped caring about the story arcs and just lazy put out some episodes to shut people up about no new content.
Wasteland on Nimbus III was nice, but that was more a continuation of the romulan faction story.
I don't Consider 'Circles within circles' to 'Tower Control' to even be real episodes. It's just going around the Dyson Sphere to certain locations and basically just shooting a few Voth ships. Most real episodes in the game have you go to a system, sometimes more than 1, shoot stuff, then beam to a planet to rescue people and/or shoot more stuff, and things like that.
Sphere of Influence was really good but the Dyson Sphere story afterwards, to me, just kinda fell flat.