Are All Reputations Created Equal?

ggg247

I have 2 alts who have hit Tier 5 for Romulan Reputation, and I've taken advantage of the Romulan Plasma DHC mk xii, Plasma torp, and Plasma turrets on my Escort. What a fierce ship!

I also have an alt who just hit Tier 5 on Omega Reputation (a long tough slog, though!). I've got the Borg engine, the Cutting Beam, the MACO Shield, and I'm 2 days away from the MACO Deflector. I chose these over the other fine options available at Tier 5 Omega.

My question is about the Dyson Reputation and the Nukara reputation. Do these offer the same great perks as Rom and Omega? I'm almost at Tier 5 for one of my alts for Dyson, but to be honest, I'm just doing it to get it done. I can't really tell if any of the available equipment is really that great.

I played a lot of Nukara ground missions when that was the only way to earn FM back in the day. I was bored to tears with that grind, so if none of the rewards are that great, I'd like to know before I start leveling up the Reputation. Is there anything really good offered from this Reputation?

I have many alts (every mix of Captain's specialization and ship type), so any advice on which Captain/ship would benefit from Dyson and Nukara would be very helpful.

mindshadow999

ggg247 wrote: »

I have many alts (every mix of Captain's specialization and ship type), so any advice on which Captain/ship would benefit from Dyson and Nukara would be very helpful.

If you do ground, then they're certainly useful. I like the Dyson ground set - and it's pretty easy to get the bits for it if you do the Battlezone for a few days. Similarly, the Nukara sword is a lot of fun as a ground melee weapon if you've got a Captain who doesn't mind getting up close and personal.

Space-wise... ehhh. The Dyson space weaponry set might be interesting, I guess?

ovinspace

Nope, the Omega stuff comes from the old eSTF system and set the standard for ground and space sets that were commonly available, but had just 1 console, no hangar pets etc. The new rep system gear fits in around that stuff and has much better weapons.

Omega space sets seem to still dominate in builds; consoles and weapons are taken from all over the rep system; mines, hangar pets and consumables are obviously new.

In the ground gear the Omega sets have team bonuses that will be valued for most situations by most players. Nukara has the great EV gear, and then there are species specific weapons and consumables. If you're building an away team or premade the Dyson ground armour is expensive and has no team bonus so is probably competing with fleet gear and the jemmy set as the 4th pricey one people would get.

john98837

Omega and romulan rep were the two reps for space gear, nukara and dyson both have fairly weak space gear, atleast from a DPS perspective. Dyson is more of a ground gear rep, and nukara is just for the passives. Nukara does offer a great passive at T4 and a good ability at T5, would recommend leveling it. Dyson you can stop at T4 unless you care about ground.

starkaos

I would suggest getting at least one character the Dyson Ground set. It looks interesting and it has an instant blue cover shield just by crouching. It even has a hole in the middle so you can fire through the cover shield. Also getting one character to Tier 5 Dyson makes it easier for alts with the Sponsorship Tokens if you just want to get the passives.

rodentmaster

dyson space is TRIBBLE. nukara space is TRIBBLE. Dyson ground is NOT impressive. Nukara ground is utter TRIBBLE.

There are only a couple of interesting items to get from nukara or dyson rep. Okay, from nukara. Dyson has not one single thing I'd put on my ship. No console, no weapon, no nothing. The only dyson items that look interesting do NOT come from the dyson rep. They come from spire rep or lockboxes (the "real" dyson weapons are there).

Rom is much more useful on both ground and space. Even if you don't use sets it has weapons, consoles, reinforcements, etc. All quite useful. Omega still rocks. Level up dyson and then just never do it again. For nukara, I'd say level up for the passives, maybe get the console, maybe the web mines (if you use mines effectively) and then just ignore it.

To answer the OP: No, not all reps are created equal. This is because they are designed to be grinds rather than actual equipment rewards. Cryptic is so focused on what they can get you to PAY for the items they are forgetting to put any thought into the items themselves.

sandormen123

In nukara, you'll get a flaming lazorsword... It will cuss at you when you troll it infront of your enemies.

orangeitis

rodentmaster wrote: »

To answer the OP: No, not all reps are created equal. This is because they are designed to be grinds rather than actual equipment rewards. Cryptic is so focused on what they can get you to PAY for the items they are forgetting to put any thought into the items themselves.

Now that's not actually true. They were designed to be reward systems, but only on paper. The devs learned from their mistakes and attempted to make the Dyson rep more rewarding. Getting free dil rep gear to reward tedious slider use, having top-end gear at every tier rather than only tier 5, and making rep gains easier to get for hardcore hordes of freetime grinders and weekend-only working/schooling players alike.

Whether it worked is another story, but the devs really are trying to make it less of a grind and more of a reward system.

mimey2

I dunno, to me I see them like this:

Omega: Ground-focused equipment and passives, including the tier 5 power. Equipment focuses on adapted Borg technologies, both space and ground. I'd argue the sets from this rep are the most universal of all reps in that many people I know have no qualms doing this rep, because so much stuff, both space and ground is useful enough to get and use in most content. Is it the best for certain things? No, but it is very useful for a lot of it.

Romulan: Highly space-focused on what it can do. There are only store-unlocked and bought Romulan Plasma weapons on the ground, everything else from this rep is in space. The space stuff is a bit of a mixed bag, but it is useful depending on what you need it to do. Not as universal in my opinion as Omega, but it is there. Plus it has epohhs!

Nukara: The first of what I consider the 'single-target' reps. Namely that it's pretty much all about taking out one enemy. Sure Omega rep is about taking out the Borg, but the stuff from it is useful in many other situations. Nukara gear is pretty much only about taking out Tholians, both in space and on ground. I'd argue it to be the worst and most boring rep to grind thus far.

Dyson: Mixed-focus of space and ground. Easiest to level, that is for sure. any new player to the game, I would tell them to focus on Dyson rep first, since it not only easy to level, but also provides free (if a bit too random IMO) gear, especially in regards to consoles. Though I would add that I think they should add 'generic' shield and armor to the unlocks as well, but that is just me.

rodentmaster

mimey2 wrote: »

I dunno, to me I see them like this:
Romulan: Highly space-focused on what it can do. There are only store-unlocked and bought Romulan Plasma weapons on the ground, everything else from this rep is in space. The space stuff is a bit of a mixed bag, but it is useful depending on what you need it to do. Not as universal in my opinion as Omega, but it is there. Plus it has epohhs!

Nukara: The first of what I consider the 'single-target' reps. Namely that it's pretty much all about taking out one enemy. Sure Omega rep is about taking out the Borg, but the stuff from it is useful in many other situations. Nukara gear is pretty much only about taking out Tholians, both in space and on ground. I'd argue it to be the worst and most boring rep to grind thus far.

Dyson: Mixed-focus of space and ground. Easiest to level, that is for sure. any new player to the game, I would tell them to focus on Dyson rep first, since it not only easy to level, but also provides free (if a bit too random IMO) gear, especially in regards to consoles. Though I would add that I think they should add 'generic' shield and armor to the unlocks as well, but that is just me.

Rom: Don't forget the attack squad reinforcements, the plasma flamethrower, and the embassy ground kits. I wouldn't say it's space-focused any more than omega is.

Nukara: Seconded!

Dyson: Disagree. it's just as single-use as nukara, though slightly less boring to farm. I still won't visit the dyson zone after I hit level 5. It's not worth my time, and it's dumb as hell. The entire design concept that went into it is moronic. It truly earns the scorn heaped upon it for being frickin dinobots with frickin lasers on their heads. The gear is entirely targetted to voth enemies, at the expense of others. you trade useful weapons proc's for fairly useless voth-only proc's. You trade half a console's rating in exchange for a dyson-specific bonus that does almost nothing (the shield refrequencer? really? Trash it and use a normal console for a far better result. And don't get me started on the protonic weapons and TRIBBLE protonic consoles.).

robdmc

These reps are not created equal but it is worth doing. The rewards in just dilithium ore is 32000 for Romulan, Nukara and Dyson. Omega gives 9000 ore. So for completing all 5 reputations systems it gives you 105000 ore. it will take about 12 days to refine. With the sponsorship token you can complete the rep system in about 17 days.

The passives are always nice regardless of the rep system so I don't care if they are equal or not.

Gear is a tough one. Most of the gear you want is in the omega rep. The romulan rep is good for the console and torp. Nukara for the console and only if you use beams.

The store unlocks are also off balanced. Omega has the doffs. Romulan has the romulan plasma weapons. I have yet to see anything interesting in the other 2 to even peak my interest.

While completely off balanced it is still worth doing just for the dilithium and the passives. If you are doing it for the gear the only must have items are the kcb, assimilated module, zero point module. All other comparable items can be acquired from the fleet stores.

kimmym

Nukara was the worst for me. Hated grinding it, don't care much for the rewards.

The elite widows make great spam clearers, tho, and I'm still using the refracting tets on my Atrox. The romulan plasmas might do more damage, but it calms my OCD some to have tets on my Atrox.

cptrichardson12

The Dyson Space set might not be as DPS'ey as the Omega stuff, but it is far more tanky.

It's basically a slightly better Mrk 12 Assimilated set in terms of "Can't Kill This". Very defensive, very fast, as good as AEGIS (which is still a damned good set) or most types of MACO. Dyson weapon set is TRIBBLE, though. Well, the two piece with the torpedo and the console, fine. Ish. But the Proton weapon is worthless until actual proton weaponry (and not the polaron TRIBBLE in the rep) comes out.

ficr

kimmym wrote: »

Nukara was the worst for me. Hated grinding it, don't care much for the rewards.

Concur.

Here's my ranking:

Low Effort: Dyson, Romulan, Borg, Nukara
High Value: Borg, Romulan, Nukara, Dyson

daqhegh

What I hate about the Dyson ground set is that we don't get the armor until we finish T5. What's the point in that? Can't they give us a prototype at T3 and upgrade it later? Not like there's a point in going back after it's finished. I guess you can tag dinos for DIL but...why bother? They should give us the whole set while we're actually there.