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Hopefully, I'm not the only one that feels this way....

dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
edited December 2013 in Fleet System and Holdings
I understand that it takes A LOT of grinding and a LOT of work to build up a Tier 5 Starbase while being in a small fleet, so I looked around for something, and I found this:

"Q: (justin2384) Could we see a way where two or maybe even more smaller fleets could for an alliance and build a star base together?

Dstahl: This is an interesting option ? or similarly, the ability for Fleets to merge ? that we are considering as a way for smaller fleets to handle some of the challenges to building a Starbase. Nothing has been decided but it is definitely an interesting option. It would be useful to know if other fleets feel this would be worthwhile or if there are concerns over something like this."

Maybe if more small fleets that doesn't want the burden of having so much work and grinding, might be able to join together with other fleets to help make bigger starbases, or even join the fleets into an Armada.

Anyone else interested in this idea?
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  • onyxheart1onyxheart1 Member Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    YES! A Thousand Times Yes!

    This has been a sore point among my (very) small KDF fleet, if we could ally ourselves with a larger KDF fleet (of which i am in good standing with a couple ^^) and they could somehow either directly donate, or drop items into a pool to be retrieved by our fleet members. It would be twofold benefit, my fleet would be able to complete projects more quickly. And the allied fleet would gain the benefit of more fleet credits to buy their fleet equipment with ^^
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I can see how this would be benefitial to the game.

    But I prefer my base build by these bare hands, and those of my fleet members. Then again, we did reach T3 base, T2 mine, T2 Embassy and T1 spire in what, six months? We are doing good.

    That being said, you have my support.
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    look at the bright side...in a small fleet you probably won't need to set the alarm clock to be able to contribute to get enough fleetmarks to buy your gear.

    and if you need something from T5 or T3...there is a channel that invites people to high end bases (only doable for gear, such as shields weapons...not for ships). all you need is the provisions ready in YOUR fleet, since the provisions necessary are taken from your fleets vault.
    Go pro or go home
  • seniorkafeiseniorkafei Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yes, I definitely support this idea.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I support any option to decrease fleet progression costs, in whatever form it may take. As long as there are failsafes installed to prevent or discourage predatory 'alliancing', I think any change to reduce the burden is a positive thing and should be looked into being worked on.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    Just join a larger fleet. They're a dime a dozen.

    It's one option. This proposal is another option.

    The problem with your option is it discourages independence and diversity for the sake of convenience. Like suggesting small businesses close up shop to go work for a massive corporation if they're suffering financially because it's easier. Or suggesting that a local restaurant stop looking for new ways to make ends meet and just work at a McDonald's if they want to make food.

    Some people just want to run things differently, some people want to do things their own way. This independant attitude is something that should be nurtured, and not neglected.

    And people who want to run a small fleet instead of being a foot soldier in a larger fleet and dealing with all the bs of said fleet just so they can get access to top-end things ends up ends up depriving them of the desire to offer something new or to do things their own way.

    Those of us who do run small fleets are likely smart enough to recognize that our 'small fleet woes' could easily be solved by joining a larger fleet, but we choose not to -- and instead look for additional ways to ease the pain of fleet progression, because we want to remain independent. We willingly go through with this because we choose to.

    At the same time, your option does have merit. If a person does not care about doing things their own way, if a person is willing to deal with a fleet and follow their rules and participate in a large group effort as one cog in a large machine... they should simply look into doing that. If a person wants to be a follower and not a leader, then yes, they should just look into joining a larger fleet.
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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    iconians wrote: »
    Those of us who do run small fleets are likely smart enough to recognize that our 'small fleet woes' could easily be solved by joining a larger fleet, but we choose not to -- and instead look for additional ways to ease the pain of fleet progression, because we want to remain independent. We willingly go through with this because we choose to.
    In other words, you want the system to accomodate your desire to be a special snowflake.

    If you want to run your own fleet, then you must work for it. It is not impossible. I practically solo'ed an entire base to T5. If I can do it, anyone can do it...unless you're saying you're somehow inferior.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    In other words, you want the system to accomodate your desire to be a special snowflake.

    If you want to run your own fleet, then you must work for it. It is not impossible. I practically solo'ed an entire base to T5. If I can do it, anyone can do it...unless you're saying you're somehow inferior.

    This is a Cryptic game where they survived the cut-throat video game industry by making a business model on giving customers the opportunity to be a special snowflake. It's their hallmark, and their claim to fame. I play Cryptic games to be a special snowflake, so do a lot of other people.

    I'm saying what I'm saying. If you're seeing "I'm inferior.", then I think that speaks more about you than it does me.
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  • raphaeldisantoraphaeldisanto Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    iconians wrote: »
    The problem with your option is it discourages independence and diversity for the sake of convenience. Like suggesting small businesses close up shop to go work for a massive corporation if they're suffering financially because it's easier. Or suggesting that a local restaurant stop looking for new ways to make ends meet and just work at a McDonald's if they want to make food.

    Except that small business realize that they're never going to own a company jet. And if an employee of said small business wants to fly in one, he's gonna have to join a large business.

    Fleet holdings are like company assets. Small companies have smaller assets, by definition.

    This isn't about 'making ends meet'.

    It's about small fleets with less resources wanting the same assets as large fleets that have more resources. I'm sorry. That just doesn't compute.
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