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webdeath
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On this Thanksgiving day.. Instead of wondering what are the Best ships..
What are the 5 WORST Fleet/lockbox/PVP Quality Ships?
What are the 5 WORST Fleet/lockbox/PVP Quality Ships?
You think that your beta test was bad?
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
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Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
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The Idea is just about any Tier 5, Fleet, or Lockbox ship that some one might consider the worst and trying to make a list.
Its all in good fun.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Fleet Galaxy - R
Fleet Aquarius
and now Fleet Vulcan Ship ?
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Fleet Aquarius
Fleet Galaxy Retro
Fleet Atrox
Fleet Varanus
Fleet Ha'nom
What makes the Fleet Ha'nom reach the List of Top 5 Worst ships?
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I went for a smoke, but I was coming back to elaborate on the Varanus and Ha'nom.
First the Varanus, since you didn't ask about it. :P
Compare it to the Fleet Deep Space, eh? Outside of crew, all the stats are the same except one. Shield Mod. Varanus has 1.32 compared to the DSSV's 1.43...like, wtf?
The Ha'nom is more complicated. It's along the lines of why I would have had the Vo'Quv as 6th.
Fleet Ha'nom BOFF seating...
X, X
X
X, X
X, X, X, X
X, X, X
Mirror Ha'nom BOFF seating...
X, X
X, X
X
X, X, X, X
X, X, X
Yeah, I know there are plenty of folks that are perfectly fine with a Lt Eng boat...to me, any ship really needs 3x Eng BOFF abilities or it's going to have issues.
Yeah, I was real disappointed with the BOFF seating they did for the Fleet Kar'Fi because of that. Either the Lt Tac or En Sci should have been Uni, imho.
The Aquarius is the poster child reply to folks complaining about KDF BoPs.
Fed: Freaking cowardly Klink hiding with your cloak!
KDF: Don't see you flying an Aquarius.
Fed: Well uh...no.
KDF: So shut up.
Fed: Hard to argue that. Carry on.
And let's not forget that in most of its defensive-related stats, the Fleet Aquarius is actually crunchier than a BoP. 2k more hull than the Fleet Hoh'sus, 4 eng consoles, and higher shield mod. The only area where the Aquarius loses out is the impulse mod, which is .15. That's probably the reason nobody flies it, it's a light escort that has cruiser speed. No idea what Cryptic was thinking when they released it. Of course the Feddies weren't going to use it, they probably wouldn't use it even if it had an escort impulse mod. Despite all their whining about cloaks, they don't hesitate to use them on their Rom-Feds and their Defiants/Avengers.
Fair enough.
And yeah I agree about the Kar'fi. Always thought it should have had a Uni Ensign or an Engi Ensign.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
qin- sorta like the galaxy class of escorts. bad pivot point, below average turn, station setup unpopular but not to bad since doffs, like the defiant, just 4 tac consoles, real bad shield mod, normal cloaks are pretty meh
galaxy X- joke tac cruiser, joke lance, no fleet version
aquarius- bop stats with no battleclaok and only a universal LT and ens. literally a joke ship thats supposed to suck, still not even in the top 3 of suck
hap'ax- just a pointless ship. like the ody, stuck with a tac ens, proboly the least useful for that type of ships. warbirds that arent escort like and mostly just bliping basically suck, for raw tanking that 40 power is missed. they cant really do anything dangerous out of cloak, and cloaking in combat is always dangerous. i dont know, the concept of a cruiser war bird just doesn't jive at all. the d'deridex is better, with LTC tac and sci it can actually be a dangerous ship.
Was kind of surprised it took so long for this one to come up.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Cause getting stuck on stuff in sector space is fun... and clipping your model in every pvp match isn't distracting... and we all love getting pushed 10k up on z at the start of a map load cause the system can't handle the planet size ship your flying. I vote Romulan ships in general cause Cryptic is dumb.
Normally that could work.. but I think there are more then 5 Romulan ships to qualify for a catagory of 5 worst ships.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
1: Tuffi Freighter (Seriously just a terrible ship, asside from changing ships in Sector the D'kora is just a better option.)
2: Cell Ship (Very similar to the Tuffi with a slightly better turn rate. Once again asside form the Discount Commodities the D'Kora is better for the same purpose.)
3: Fleet Galaxy Retrofit (We call it a Failaxy for a reason.)
4: Fleet Aquarius Destroyer (When Starfleet started to make ships out of Tin Foil and Coat Hangers, the Klingon Empire celebrated Victory Day.)
5: Fleet Atrox (While the Kitty Carrier is not a useless ship, it still has not enough quality in the intended area of operation. Seeing as it still takes close to a week to turn around, and the firepower from its custom pets is laughable to say the least. Just not a good Carrier.)
Honorable Mention: Galaxy X Dreadnought (The one with Suacer Serperation that also includes a Fleet Variant. Coming July of 2410.)
Edit: Seriously, the Devs have been trolling us with the Galaxy X Saucer Seperation for a few years now... That is a Pro Troll, 10 out of 10, would rage again.
Heh, I've Sing Jumped into roids in CnH and gotten stuck with the T'varo.
Good point... there all bad then.
I'm not sure if you're serious.
The Aquarius is a joke of a ship, you just compared it to a BoP with "2K more" hull and managed to completely forget the existence of battle cloak or universal CMD/LTC?
The reason why no one flies it is because it is awful.
The Fleet Aquarius, the Fleet Galaxy-R, and the Fleet Varanus..
Are there really just that many ships after that qualify? Nothing that just screams "Horribad" more then those three? I mean I've seen mentions of the Hap'ax, The Fleet Ha'nomnomnom, The Fleet Negh'var, The Fleet Atrox, As well as the Galaxy-X.
Even mentions of the Fleet Kar'fi, and the Vor'quv..
Should I have increased it to the top 10 to make it eaiser? :P
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
dont even like the dhlean? even the most large and derp escort based ones are very effective in spit of them selves. its not a derp list, only a worst list lol
Lies! It turns fine! Then again, I'm fine with a Qin - not experiencing the issue oft complained about there...though I loathe the pivot for the Ambassador.
Hrmm, going back to my dislike of boats without 3 Eng BOFFs...there's the quirky nature of the Fleet Ar'Kif, where I'd *have to* slot the LCdr Uni as a LCdr Eng. In of itself, not odd - until you look at the consoles and BOFFs together.
Cmdr/Lt & 5 Tac Consoles
Lt & 3 Sci Consoles
LCdr/En & 2 Eng Consoles
If we go back to the T4 Ar'Kif and Ar'Kala...
Ar'Kif: Cmdr/Lt, Lt, Lt & 3 Tac/2 Eng/2 Sci
Ar'Kala: Cmdr/En, Lt, Lt, Lt & 4 Tac/2 Eng/2 Sci
T5 Ar'Kif Retro and Fleet Ar'Kif...
Ar'Kif Retro: Cmdr/Lt, En, Lt, LCdr & 4 Tac/2 Eng/3 Sci
Fleet Ar'Kif: Cmdr/Lt, En, Lt, LCdr & 5 Tac/2 Eng/3 Sci
That shift from the Ar'Kala to Ar'Kif Retro...hrmm...yeah, not a fan.
Cmdr/En, Lt, Lt, LCdr & 5 Tac/3 Eng/2 Sci
...and I would have bought it already, likely rolled another Rom to fly it.
Yes, putting it down on "paper" - yeah, I can see the problems that would have existed if they'd gone that route though...heh, the inner desire for OP revealed...meh.
I can think of at least 5 ships that are the most outclassed now by newer stuff.
It has the BOFF layout of the Fed RSV, with Singularity powers, Battlecloak and can use DHCs.
While the BOFF layout is a bit outdated, and the model is HUMONGOSTUPID, I think we'd be hard-pressed to classify this ship as "worst".
indeed, i dont really see why its a bad sci ship at all. people just want a battlecloaking, singularity power vesta or wells though, im sure its coming.
Is there a Sci Vessel that's an easier target? Other than the Varanus which, imho, needs that bump to it's Shield Mod?