Which klingon fleet ship

captweavers

Hey guys, I have a question.....which is better for pvp: a fleet Somraw or fleet Qin??
Any help would be great, thanks.

pokersmith1

Fleet somraw is a very good ship. Well, its a fleet patrol escort with weaker shields, but ability to regular cloak. I fly one and I like it, if you spec it right you can get maximum out of it. It can dish, and it can tank.

Fleet Qin, iirc, has an additional ensign tac slot. At the time that boff seating is wasted, but in current meta you might be able to make use of it by getting a third superior operative boff. If there is a team behind your back, supporting your existence, then arguably this ship will be able to put out more damage than fleet somraw can. However, on a solo basis, you will have a somewhat harder time staying alive.

mdwgardiner1701

I have both of these ships from way back.

I'd look at the Qin as similar to the Fleet Defiant and the Somraw to the Fleet Patrol Escort. I used the Somraw up until recently. It was a fun ship, but essentially a patrol escort with a cloak (No battlecloak).

The Qin also doesn't have 5 tac consoles like the Defiant if you were worried about that.

Ultimately though I think both of these ships have been outclassed for a while now. The lack of a battlecloak is an issue.

I heard a rumour that a new KDF ship was coming in December, not sure how true that is though.

There are a few other KDF ships though you might want to have a look at: Scourge, HoH'SuS, Tor'Kaht

captweavers

Yeah, it would be nice to see a five tac console ship

what about the new fleet peghqu, until a new ship shows up???

virusdancer

Might be interesting when they finally get around to the Fleet Guramba, eh? Standard boosts...

Hull: 31,500 to 34650
Shield Mod: 0.9 to 0.99
Console: +1 (imagine if they +1'd the Tac)

adaephondelat

It still would have a miserable 15 Turn, slightly too low for an escort of my taste.

To the OP:

Fleet Somraw is imho the best KDF Escort besides lockbox-ships. The cloak is a nice tactical advantage, but in longer battles you definitly feel the 0.88 shield-mod.

captweavers

so what is the best lockbox ship for a tac Klingon??

tksmitty

Everything about KDF Fleet ships has really already been said. You can't go wrong with the Fleet Qin, Fleet Somraw or Fleet Scourge. They will just require slightly different builds.

Lockbox ships are a whole other matter all together. Most LB ships have a shtick or a gimmick that makes them special. You can pick ones that are Eng or Sci heavy. Ones that have a hangar or high shields.

If you elaborate on what you want, we can further help you pick. Just know, that depending on your choice, you might end up needing 60-100mil EC to buy the ship.

timezarg

I don't own either ship, but I would pick the Fleet Somraw. Better boffstation layout, same amount of tac consoles as the Qin, and I think the Fleet Qin suffers from the same turn axis issue the free Qin suffers from. I could never really work around that very well, so I wouldn't fly the Fleet Qin if it has that issue.

crusty8mac

I love my fleet Qin. I prefer my temporal destroyer for PvP, though.

captweavers

crusty8mac wrote: »

I love my fleet Qin. I prefer my temporal destroyer for PvP, though.

I was also thinking about getting the temp destroyer....so how would you set it up for a Klingon tac and is it worth it??

adaephondelat

The Temp. Destroyer is worth it. Of course, it's not as good as a JHAS, but you need several hundred million ec to get one of these.

I prefer an Aux2Batt Setup on my Temp. Destroyer with 3 DHCs and 1 DBB front. The uni. boffslots are alle Engineers. To make up for the lost sci-abilities I use a cleanse Doff.

crusty8mac

captweavers wrote: »

I was also thinking about getting the temp destroyer....so how would you set it up for a Klingon tac and is it worth it??

It is very much worth it if you are PvPing. It is great in PvE also.

Start here: Link


I pretty much started with DDIS's setup. I got the lobi temporal set as he suggests, which gives you a bonus to chroniton damage while locking you into AP weapons. The Chroniton Beam Array is actually an AP array.

I don't use the Manneheim console, except sometimes for a laugh in PvE. I later replaced two of my rear turrets for the cutting beam and the omnidirectional AP beam.

My setup now looks something like this:

BOs:

Lt. Comm Universal: EPtA1, RSP1, Aux2SIF2
Lt. Universal: TB1, HE2
Comm Tact: TT1, BO2, CRF2, APO3
Lt. Tact: TT1, TS2
Ens. Eng: EPtS1

All my slotted BOs are efficient Letheans.

Front Weapons:

Chroniton Dual Array, AP DHC x2, Chroniton Torp

Rear Weapons:

Omnidirectional AP beam array, Kinetic cutting beam, AP turret

I'm using the Assimilated Borg deflector and engines with the KHG shield.

Warp Core: looking to update.

Devices: (Rechargeable) shield battery, weapons battery

Eng Consoles: Neutronium Alloy, Universal Assimilated Module

Science Consoles: Field Generator x2, Tachyokentic Converter, Plasmonic Leach

Tact Consoles: AP Mag regulator x4


Very little of what I have is "maxed", so I'm always upgrading.

My Doffs are Shield Distribution Officers x2, Hazard Systems Officer x2 (these make my brace for impact a panic shield heal and resistance buff), and one of the battery DOffs.

I'll trade out some consoles, depending on what is happening in game.

The temporal set boosts chroniton damage, which is why I use chroniton torps. All the 2 piece sets give nice bonuses.

With the universal officer slots there are many ways to set up the Krenn, and there should be some way to make it fit your playing style. Mine is that I like to stay in a fight and pew pew until no one is standing. This setup works for that.

g0h4n4

Instead of which ship is good for PVP, ask yourself which is best for you...

What role do you want to play and what do you want to get out of your ship?