Ok, so im an eng and have the avenger and i like it but i fancy a change.
I want a big tanky beam boat to broadside with. Im looking to do sustained dps not top dps. I know that sounds weird but being top dps does nothin for me, i want to sit ant tank while doing ok damage.
So which cruiser should i go for?
I do have the leech console and am assuming i will have to spend some money.
i would recommend the odyssy science cruiser. (just that) the set is ok but i dont use the consoles. the science one has the balence of 4 eng 4 sci and 2 tact. so you can build up on your shields and hp and resistance within those slots. the hull str itself is beast. and its the only ody cruiser that has "Sensor Analysis" which after a breif duration of time will buff your dmg against your enemies. your choice.
You want a tank with good sustained damage? That's easy.
Tac Odyssey with two copies of APB and one or two copies of BFAW.
Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit, or Assault Cruiser Refit (fleet is nice, but not necessary) with BFAW and APB.
(barfs quietly in a corner) I can't believe I am saying this, but the Excelsior (VA and Fleet) are also good for tank and sustained DPS, but you are almost forced to run an Aux2Bat build with this ship (something you are not pigeonholed into doing with the other two).
As you probably noticed, none of these three are cheap/easy to get. You will need Zen. Or you will need a high level fleet shipyard. That's the price cruisers pay for being cruisers.
Of course you can always just get a MUAC and call it a day, it can deal decent damage and tanks well. It won't do as well as the above 3 options, but it will do what you need it to.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
some fleet cruisers i have yet to try but the Excelsior class, Ambassador class, Odyssey class are going to be great tanks. Also if your willing to pay for it the voth flight-deck cruiser is a amazing ship. it only gets 2 cruiser commands like the gal-x but still is a great ship.
Eng Cmdr - EPtE1, EPtS2, EPtW3, Aux2Sif3
Tac Lt. Cmdr - BFAW1, AP:B1, AP:B2
Tac Lt. - TT1, BFAW2
Sci Lt. - HE1, TBR2(this is user choice i like TBR)
Sci Ens. - TSS1
I Use Fleet Warp core of choice, Fleet shields of choice, Fleet Deflector of choice and Borg Engines.
Moving on to devices.
Standard shield, aux and wep batts, plus the Subspace Field Modulator.
Moving on to consoles.
3x Dil Mine Neutroniums Mk XII +Turn.
Currently 3x Anitproton mag Reg Mk X Purple (will be getting Mk XII Spire ones)
Assimilated Module
Nukara Particle Converter
Aquarius Console
Chevron Seperation
I Have a TT Doff, 3x EPtX Doffs(to reduce CD on them) another EPtX Doff to increase all power levels on use.
My Weapons are 6x Fleet Antiproton Beam Arrays [Accx2 Dmgx2]
Kinetic cutting beam
Omni-Directional Antiproton Beam Array(from the Carrier set obtained from Sphere of Influence)
I really enjoy it on my Fed Eng. I Rarely blow up, but when i do its spectacular! Plus on the off chance i wanna be cheeky i can pop that Aquarius out. My Power levels always sit at 125 Wep, 90 Shield, 60 Eng and 62 Aux the way i have it. But i can get full 125 Across the board by popping some EptX.
Its a pretty boss setup.
Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
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The Avenger both c-store and fleet is a nice versatile tank, well worth the price
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I personally like the Galaxy retrofit. It's got a nice think hull to tank in, but if you need that extra boost in agility, you can pop the saucer and go.
I know the tactical Odyssey does that better, but... come on, who can say no to a Galaxy? It's shmexy.:D
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Thankyou all for the answers its all been good advice. At the mo im looking at the regent then fleet assault as my fleet should be t 5 shipyard soon i think.
Build wise it looks like tt1, beam overload 2, then apb? For tac Ensign tac will be another tt1 i think, or i could have 1 aux/bat and have a high yeild or spread there. Dunno if thats silly tho, but then not caring bout being top dps i have a certain freedom lol.
Personally I dont bother with torpedos on my cruiser, I broadside enemys & use FAW 1 &
3,
I prefer FAW over BO, However I have got BO on my ship also. Weapons batteries, EPW & Aux2Batt keep my damage quite high
Borg cutting beam is quite good, Rom Ex beam array also does not drain power
Fleet Excelsior... hate the looks myself but inevitably I keep going back to it. It's just too bloody good not to be used. A case of reluctant love, to say the least; but worthy of every iota of praise it receives. :rolleyes:
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just dont plan on killing much with 2 tactical consoles and a Lt tac officer
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With Tachyokinetic converter console, Plasmonic Leech, Assimilated console & Zero point console, Flow capacitors pretty much set to max in skills
Seems to serve me quite well so far.
I also use FAW 2 & 3, BO2 or 3 (cant remember) & Aux2batt
Tac Odyssey with two copies of APB and one or two copies of BFAW.
Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit, or Assault Cruiser Refit (fleet is nice, but not necessary) with BFAW and APB.
(barfs quietly in a corner) I can't believe I am saying this, but the Excelsior (VA and Fleet) are also good for tank and sustained DPS, but you are almost forced to run an Aux2Bat build with this ship (something you are not pigeonholed into doing with the other two).
As you probably noticed, none of these three are cheap/easy to get. You will need Zen. Or you will need a high level fleet shipyard. That's the price cruisers pay for being cruisers.
Of course you can always just get a MUAC and call it a day, it can deal decent damage and tanks well. It won't do as well as the above 3 options, but it will do what you need it to.
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The Fleet Galaxy can tank but not sure about the DPS... I ran Aux2Bat and that helps with the Adv Fleet AP weapons.
The Fleet Sovy also is another option...
But if you have the Lobi... get the Elachi Battlecruiser. Similar stats of the Fleet Avenger but slightly better
I run mine with Stuff and Things. Here is a List.
Boffs.
Eng Cmdr - EPtE1, EPtS2, EPtW3, Aux2Sif3
Tac Lt. Cmdr - BFAW1, AP:B1, AP:B2
Tac Lt. - TT1, BFAW2
Sci Lt. - HE1, TBR2(this is user choice i like TBR)
Sci Ens. - TSS1
I Use Fleet Warp core of choice, Fleet shields of choice, Fleet Deflector of choice and Borg Engines.
Moving on to devices.
Standard shield, aux and wep batts, plus the Subspace Field Modulator.
Moving on to consoles.
3x Dil Mine Neutroniums Mk XII +Turn.
Currently 3x Anitproton mag Reg Mk X Purple (will be getting Mk XII Spire ones)
Assimilated Module
Nukara Particle Converter
Aquarius Console
Chevron Seperation
I Have a TT Doff, 3x EPtX Doffs(to reduce CD on them) another EPtX Doff to increase all power levels on use.
My Weapons are 6x Fleet Antiproton Beam Arrays [Accx2 Dmgx2]
Kinetic cutting beam
Omni-Directional Antiproton Beam Array(from the Carrier set obtained from Sphere of Influence)
I really enjoy it on my Fed Eng. I Rarely blow up, but when i do its spectacular! Plus on the off chance i wanna be cheeky i can pop that Aquarius out. My Power levels always sit at 125 Wep, 90 Shield, 60 Eng and 62 Aux the way i have it. But i can get full 125 Across the board by popping some EptX.
Its a pretty boss setup.
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I know the tactical Odyssey does that better, but... come on, who can say no to a Galaxy? It's shmexy.:D
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Build wise it looks like tt1, beam overload 2, then apb? For tac Ensign tac will be another tt1 i think, or i could have 1 aux/bat and have a high yeild or spread there. Dunno if thats silly tho, but then not caring bout being top dps i have a certain freedom lol.
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I prefer FAW over BO, However I have got BO on my ship also. Weapons batteries, EPW & Aux2Batt keep my damage quite high
Borg cutting beam is quite good, Rom Ex beam array also does not drain power
just dont plan on killing much with 2 tactical consoles and a Lt tac officer
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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