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Are the Romulan Rep Space Sets Really that Terrible
merescintilla
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I just hit t5 Romulan rep and was looking into these sets and surprised that opinions seem to be universally negative. The stats on the engines and shields don't look that bad (imo better than their borg counterparts) and ok sure the deflector is terrible combining graviton generators and subspace decompiler - two skills almost nobody uses together - but it still doesn't strike me as stay away awful with the set bonuses taken into account. So what am I missing?
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one goes for attack pattern buffs (Romulan set) while the other is evasive maneuvers?(i think...i havent touched the reman set in so long idk anymore)
but yeah....the reman/romulan sets are.....well, subpar at best.
But STO is very much a game of stats, 'x vs y' kind of stuff. If any equipment isn't comparable enough to older stuff, most people will ignore it. While on one end we still have much older equipment that is still worth getting, the new stuff is usually ignored more often because people look at it and say 'why bother getting this new stuff, when my old stuff is already fine?'
So a lot of folks look at the Romulan sets, consider them not worthwhile enough to the STF sets (which was the main comparison we had back when we had only two reps, anything other sets were gotten outside of rep).
(From sto.gamepedia)
(1) Console - Zero-Point Energy Conduit
Very Rare Universal Console:
+1.8 Power to all subsystems
+19.7 Starship Power Insulators
+1.8% Critical Chance
(2) Romulan Hyper-Plasma Torpedo Launcher
Plasma Torpedo
Destructible projectile - AOE damage
90' targeting arc
Creates 3 level 60 Plasma Torpedoes
1,609.2 Kinetic Damage
130 Plasma Damage every 1 sec for 15 sec
+2% critical chance
(3) Experimental Romulan Plasma Beam Array
Plasma Array
Energy Damage
250' targeting arc
(This weapon does not drain Weapon Power when firing with other weapons)
2.5% __ Plasma Damage every 1 sec for 15 sec
2.5% -10.8 All Damage Reistance for 15 sec
+6% critical chance
Set bonuses:
For each item added after the first, an additional power is available.
Set 2: Plasma Conductive Circuitry
+7.6% Plasma Damage
+15.2 Starship Electro-Plasma System
Set 3: Plasma Hyperflux (basically a plasma beam overload)
2 min recharge
Enables a special firing mode on your Experimental Romulan Plasma Beam Array
Deals increased direct damage
Applies a high damage Plasma Burn DoT for 10 sec
Decreases damage resistance for 10 sec on target
Include embassy consoles, rom rep or fleet plasma beams and you're good to go.
In the ranking of things I've personally found there to be a general decrease in utility from the older to the newer rep systems.
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All strong opinions you'll encounter about the quality of gear comes from two places: PvPers and those for who e-peen is important.
The PvPers are worth listening to if you plan to hang with them. Those tiny advantages make a huge difference in keybind land and you're going to need what they're using for their "I Win" device.
The e-peen people? I guess that's up to you if you want to join them.
I've found that you can do everything the game throws at you with what you get during normal play. (No idea about the new zone since I don't do PUGs so maybe that has changed) So in that case it comes down to what special effect you want your ship to have while orbiting DS9.
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sto.gamepedia.com
Romulan Prototype Impulse Engines Mk XII
+26.2 Starship Attack Patterns
+16.8 Flight Speed
(Efficient at Low Power Levels)
+19.5 Flight Turn Rate
+16.5 Full Impulse Flight Speed
Full Impulse
All Power to Engines
+110.2 Flight Speed
Diverts all power to engines
in game tool tip
Romulan Prototype Impulse Engines Mk XII
+26.2 Starship Attack Patterns
+16.8 Flight Speed
(Efficient at Low Power Levels)
+0.25 Flight Turn Rate
+16.5 Full Impulse Flight Speed
Full Impulse
All Power to Engines
+110.2 Flight Speed
Diverts all power to engines
Cool, my research says the capacitor proc has problems that keeps you from getting a high number of stacks, are you finding things differently?
Well I want to be effective, sure I guess the game can still be played using the default white gear that comes with a new ship but that kind of defeats the point of gear.
Looks promising from the feedback, guess I'll be grinding the Romulan marks to test it since I'm using high yield with the Romulan plasma torpedoes now. If only the deflector had more useful stats and the 2pc bonus affected all destructible torpedoes...
I have an idea for what Season 11 should be; Season 11: The Big Bug Fix.
I have not been able to read my bug tickets in over a year, not even the tickets about not being able to see my tickets.
I find the drama of your signature proof of your immaturity, this means you, DR whiners.
I can see that. There is something to be said about flying in circles killing mobs more quickly: You'll spend less time flying in circles killing mobs.
Well except the t5 Romulan rep requirement implies endgame set...
Just because it requires T5 rep, does not necessarily mean it is an endgame set. Even devs have said that the Nukara and Romulan sets are not of the same level as Omega...
Yup, still a valid set today...
The pieces tend to be very niche or just bad in some cases. The deflectors have a lot of graviton gens and decompiler (duration), which makes them good for tractor beam hold but not much else (the are not even good for TB damage). The engines look very good for speed and turning, and have some good skill bonuses (attack patterns vs defense) and may be competitive with Omega engines for overall performance in the right setup. The shields are very plain with no compelling attribute at all.
As for set bonuses, the 2-piece gives your High Yield plasma torps better speed and defense (harder to shoot down), but you can only use high-yield BOFF ability every 30 seconds, so it is really just irrelevant for the most part. Meanwhile the 3-piece has a 10% chance to buff your shield capacity, but the starting value is fiarly low and you would need a whole lot of buffs just to get the same capacity as you would get from a MACO shield to start with and once that happened you would still be better off with the MACO shield because of the secondary attributes.
So basically the individual pieces are mostly just weird and the set bonuses are junk. The engines are the only thing that is close to being competitive with other end-game items, and those might be useful in combination with some other gear for specific tailored builds, but thats all.
If you only want the look, just use the shield
I'd like one of two things to happen: either this set gets a much needed buff, or the devs implement a costume option that lets you slot equipment into extra "costume" slots that do nothing more than change the appearance of your ship.
Another thing the devs could do to make this set useful is to give it bonuses that only work for ships with a singularity core: counteract at least some of the power penalty for using singularity cores, and/or make the shield "efficient" (give it a much better damage resistance at low power), and/or make each item give a power bonus to a subsystem when it is low on power.
But doesn't the shield have massive capacity? And the 3 pc bonus buffs that further?
I'm still going to try it but yeah changing the deflector would really help out the set
the Only thing these sets have that make them interesting is the torpedo speed mod, but the adapted khg/khg set with 25% more damage is So much better, and the set has modifiers that are clearly for cloakers.
I would Love to hear cryptic tell us about the design philosophy behind these sets, because I cant think of any way to use them
Someone got it right. Although you can drop the torpedo for PvE content if you're a beam boat. And of course use Rom Plasma beams with the experimental.
Mk XII Tier-5 rep sets (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Sets)
Assimilated 4927.5
Nukara 6,241.5
Romulan 6,775.3
Omega 7,366.6
MACO 7,775.9
KHG 8,432
Three of the Omega sets have more shield capacity. All of the other sets have more attributes (eg, +5 to engines or something), and the MACO shield is a resilient shield, so it has reduced bleed-through to hull. If you got three 10% buffs stacked up then okay you would have a crappy shield with a lot of capacity. It sure isnt worth having to use all three pieces to get the bonus.
If I were going to use anything from these sets it would be one of the engines, and then I would probably couple it with the Nukara deflector (best shield-tanking deflector), and the MACO shield, or some combination like that, but even that would depend on the ship and the tactics, and I'm not suggesting you should do it I'm saying that its the only piece I would use for anything.
Which is also one of the reasons I find the idea of 'power creep' being a major issue in the game to be overstated when I literally have 0 problems staying alive in my Fleet D'Deridex with the Mk XII reman set, despite the fact it's inferior to the others.
Power Creep is not a problem for NPC's. They get their rears handed to them from everything. Power Creep is an issue in PvP where your ship would be torn to pieces by a fully tricked out vessel with a competent captain.
That'd probably explain why it's an issue I simply don't understand. PvP is broken on very basic and fundamental levels, and has been that way since launch -- so to complain about power creep in PvP is just a foreign idea to me since the system was already broken before this was even an issue. I simply assumed 'power creep' meant the entirety of the game, including PvE content.
Now I know. And knowing is half the battle.