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  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    It stands for Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made

    Yogurt! I hate Yogurt!:D
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    cptjhunter wrote: »
    Yogurt! I hate Yogurt!:D

    even with strawberries? :P
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  • tyrannyfighter22tyrannyfighter22 Member Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    1. The Story is hidden in the Dyson Sphere. There are various consoles in the Battleground, Duty Officer assigments that can give Lore, and doing the missions/cutscenes unlocked at each Tier. Tier 1 currently just gives a cutscene, but it is interesting.

    4. We already have various enemies that use animals in combats and since Voth would bring their pets and beasts of burden with them when they left Earth, then obviously they would have dinosaurs. If we had personal shields, then lots of nations would be equipping rocket launchers and machine guns on Elephants.

    Star Trek had Iconian Gates before Stargate existed. Devidians existed before Babylon 5. If you are talking about the Undine using ships similar to Vorlon ships, then it is Voyager is responsible for that not STO. The whole concept of Carriers existed long before Battlestar Galactica. The Breach is inside a ship while the Death Star is on the surface of a Moon-sized Starship. So your whole idea that STO is blatantly ripping off various Science Fiction TV shows is false. The only evidence of STO ripping off a Science Fiction TV show is a green Ferengi giving away free energy melee weapons.

    As far as Season 8 being the worst season ever, you have not been here that long. Season 3 and Season 4 had a lack of actual official content. The advancement of the Iconian plot and being in a Dyson Sphere make it a good season IMO.

    Thank you for correcting the complete nonsense the op posted. I mean it was literal garbge. LOL star trek stealing ideas that they came up with first. Laughable.
  • tyrannyfighter22tyrannyfighter22 Member Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Usual dino complain that I see everywhere.

    Also, there is story. You should play all of the content before you try to make a review of something.

    Agreed. There is a major story, people just play for ten mins and then complain. The op prolly spent more time on his post then he did in playing the game.
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited November 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    It stands for Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made

    LMAO. +1 to you sir or ma'am. ;)
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  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I agree with most of what you said.

    I was also really excited.
    Last update was HUGE and I loved it.

    The story from the featured mission.. which btw was really good,.. didn't really crossover to season 8. How did Voth come into this? Where is the Iconioans and what is their roll this. Telling the story in these rep. etc.. its just not a good idea. Its to hidden.. and not really telling a story.

    The stories are hidden in reputation system etc.. but I am still not happy about that.
    I want missions, actual missions where I can fight the voth and find out about these Iconian gates and possibly about the Iconian themselves, ..

    I do actually like the story they developed (the little I have seen of it).

    I do like the new STFs. As a person that love grounds, shame that the ground battle is not included like a STF mission.

    The space battle zone map is beautiful.. but the missions there is not interesting. That map is just not working for me. Its not how I want to play. I love the ground battle zone.. but its quite far away.

    The FED tutorial is .. and I have probably said this before.. AMAZING. Shame its not available as a mission you can replay.. but thats ok. I was really hoping they open up some parts of Academy as you see in this tutorial.

    The reputation system new system is an improvement.

    Release of the game in mac version,.. epic!

    I just wish they had told the story in actual missions. Missions make people excited and wanting to play... that will have people invest in the game. In my eyes that is what was so successful with the new faction missions last time.
  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    The main complaint I have with it all is the fact that if Starfleet were to be involved in the Sphere they would be actively seeking to find out why the Voth are collecting Omega Particles and there is no way in hell they would be just blindly following the orders of some Romulan dude at a desk telling them to go to the BZ and kill any Voth they see.

    There is a HUGE gap in the story between where the Feature episode with Worf left off and the Sphere content begins. If this was a novel and any writer had submitted this as the 2nd book in the series I am certain that their editor would be calling them and asking if they were still working on the "in between" stuff. And if that author said, no that's that story as it stands the editor, if they had any credibility what so ever, would then explain to the author that this is simply NOT GOOD FICTION and there is a HUGE gap in the story that needs to be filled or we can NOT publish.

    The other complaint I have is that there is no challenge in any of the new content and this is a trend in the MMO industry now days and for that matter games in general. Where developers have become afraid to put any real challenge into their games because they might discourage someone from playing it. That is the worst mistake they made with Season 8, it is way to freakin' easy, period.

    I agree with this.

    Sure,.. last time was an expansion.. but even so the releases like last time is what they should come out with everytime.
  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    puttenham wrote: »
    I agree with a lot of what the op said..

    as far as the story line being hidden in the dysons sphere, well that is ballocks.. honestly, the story line should never be hidden, buried, or take to much work to play out.. the games story line should be honestly accessable by all types of players. (even dads and moms who only have an hour here or there to play).. you burry things like achievments and side stories...

    I agree with this,.. this is a huge mistake.

    Also. I can understand why some people feel dinos are childish.. in some way maybe it is. I just don't get why the Voth themselves wasn't enough. I like the look of the Voth and frankly it should be involve them. But my biggest issue is that WHY is the Voth is here.. and how they came to the story. AGAIN hidden mission and story is NOT a good idea. There was no bridge from the FE to this season whatsoever when it comes to the Voth ..
  • aurigas7aurigas7 Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    For me, there is enough to do in STO without touching this new content designed for the Asian market and manga kids.

    Some of the new science consoles I got while testing the new missions are nice, tough.
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  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    puttenham wrote: »
    as far as the story line being hidden in the dysons sphere, well that is ballocks.. honestly, the story line should never be hidden, buried, or take to much work to play out.. the games story line should be honestly accessable by all types of players. (even dads and moms who only have an hour here or there to play)..

    Finally! A legitimate complaint about S8 and not more nerdrage over tastes not being catered to.

    Yes, game story should always be front and center if it's going to be there. But leaving the story in the background has been a Cryptic problem since Champions Online and doesn't seem to be ending any time soon.
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  • kortaagkortaag Member Posts: 525
    edited November 2013
    twg042370 wrote: »
    Finally! A legitimate complaint about S8 and not more nerdrage over tastes not being catered to.

    Yes, game story should always be front and center if it's going to be there. But leaving the story in the background has been a Cryptic problem since Champions Online and doesn't seem to be ending any time soon.

    That's an obvious complaint. Should devs like Geko really get a free pass for bad writing simply because you feel it's not something we should brush on?
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  • commanderkassycommanderkassy Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    The main complaint I have with it all is the fact that if Starfleet were to be involved in the Sphere they would be actively seeking to find out why the Voth are collecting Omega Particles and there is no way in hell they would be just blindly following the orders of some Romulan dude at a desk telling them to go to the BZ and kill any Voth they see.

    There is a HUGE gap in the story between where the Feature episode with Worf left off and the Sphere content begins. If this was a novel and any writer had submitted this as the 2nd book in the series I am certain that their editor would be calling them and asking if they were still working on the "in between" stuff. And if that author said, no that's that story as it stands the editor, if they had any credibility what so ever, would then explain to the author that this is simply NOT GOOD FICTION and there is a HUGE gap in the story that needs to be filled or we can NOT publish.

    The other complaint I have is that there is no challenge in any of the new content and this is a trend in the MMO industry now days and for that matter games in general. Where developers have become afraid to put any real challenge into their games because they might discourage someone from playing it. That is the worst mistake they made with Season 8, it is way to freakin' easy, period.

    Starfleet is on 24/7 orders to act like pirates when it comes to Omega, though it would certainly be nice to ask the Voth wtf they're doing yes.

    This is the only criticism I personally have. There's just this massive gap between the stories and no explanation whatsoever.

    I like easy games. If this game was hard, I wouldn't play it. So I guess the kind of people Cryptic are afraid are putting off are people like me. I don't give one damn about challenge. If I want challenge, I go play a dedicated PvP game, like Battlefield or Planetside. AI is never up to snuff next to a human being and just adding more damage and HP to something is tedious at best.
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  • kortaagkortaag Member Posts: 525
    edited November 2013
    Starfleet is on 24/7 orders to act like pirates when it comes to Omega, though it would certainly be nice to ask the Voth wtf they're doing yes.

    This is the only criticism I personally have. There's just this massive gap between the stories and no explanation whatsoever.

    I like easy games. If this game was hard, I wouldn't play it. So I guess the kind of people Cryptic are afraid are putting off are people like me. I don't give one damn about challenge. If I want challenge, I go play a dedicated PvP game, like Battlefield or Planetside. AI is never up to snuff next to a human being and just adding more damage and HP to something is tedious at best.

    I'm glad you looked at this aspect at least. To many of us who have seen this happening, it only appears that geko wants things to look great and hope everybody is too busy to button mash to notice that there is little to no great theme at all in these releases. At least LoR had a story board played out over episodes which made the rep story something to look forward to.

    Season 8 is more like: "Omega particles wha??" "Um.. why are the voth violent.. pretty sure they're anti-violence." "Uh.. Dinos with laser heads? Uh really?" It's just one thing after the other.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    twg042370 wrote: »
    Finally! A legitimate complaint about S8 and not more nerdrage over tastes not being catered to.

    Yes, game story should always be front and center if it's going to be there. But leaving the story in the background has been a Cryptic problem since Champions Online and doesn't seem to be ending any time soon.
    Well, I have to say that the arduous task of finding bits and pieces of back story by searching the battlezones is actually quite fun. But it would be nice to have a better story explanation of how the conflict with the Voth got started.
    Starfleet is on 24/7 orders to act like pirates when it comes to Omega, though it would certainly be nice to ask the Voth wtf they're doing yes.

    This is the only criticism I personally have. There's just this massive gap between the stories and no explanation whatsoever.
    Well.... we can ask the Voth what they're doing all day long, but we'll never find out anything unless they feel like answering.... And given the superiority complex they had in the show, I wouldn't expect them to answer.
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  • pwecangetlostpwecangetlost Member Posts: 538 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Well.... we can ask the Voth what they're doing all day long, but we'll never find out anything unless they feel like answering.... And given the superiority complex they had in the show, I wouldn't expect them to answer.

    Yeah, reading the supplementary info you found knocking around the battlezone, they're disgusted by our very presence there, let alone the fact we're concerned about what they're doing. Cooperation was never on their agenda.
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