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caleb143
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over the last few days, ive been thinking. quite a few people have been saying give KDF a BOP 3 pack. While that would be cool, how about we do another 3 pack as well? Here is my idea (please excuse its scrunched appearance)
a ferjai T5 3 pack, with stats similar to the kumaris. the console set ups the same. only difference- slightly lower sheild modifier(like maybe .1 less), slightly better hull (im talking only a few undred more or so). special consoles- (1) tortured soul projectiles (think point defense but with tortured souls), (2) system override (turns oppenents weapons against them for 5 seconds or something), (3) adv phase shift (same basic idea as standard phase shift, but stay shifted for a bit longer). with all 3 on one ship, unlocks the ability to either fire thier version of the tachyokinetic bursts [or whatever the kumaris can do] or 'horde assault' [a weapons and shield buff]
the shield mod and hull thing would be up to debate.
Or we could do a Knorr escort
a ferjai T5 3 pack, with stats similar to the kumaris. the console set ups the same. only difference- slightly lower sheild modifier(like maybe .1 less), slightly better hull (im talking only a few undred more or so). special consoles- (1) tortured soul projectiles (think point defense but with tortured souls), (2) system override (turns oppenents weapons against them for 5 seconds or something), (3) adv phase shift (same basic idea as standard phase shift, but stay shifted for a bit longer). with all 3 on one ship, unlocks the ability to either fire thier version of the tachyokinetic bursts [or whatever the kumaris can do] or 'horde assault' [a weapons and shield buff]
the shield mod and hull thing would be up to debate.
Or we could do a Knorr escort
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So its a little far fetched to be thinking we're going to be getting much anytime soon. I suspect like 1 new KDF ship to be released in the zen-store over the next 6 months.
However it is always nice to come up with new ideas for ships and hope for the best.
There are plans for two new 'Klingon' ships - with the hope that we'll get at least one of them before the end of the year(they did hire a third ship artist recently and were still getting them up to speed last I heard). One of the ships is likely to be a battlecruiser counterpart to the Avenger with 5 forward weapons(the longstanding desire for a 'super-neghvar' seems the most likely suspect). My personal guess for the other would be a new Raider/Bird of Prey. There was talk of possibly giving Raiders some kind of 'flanking' bonus and to perhaps change them to 5fore weapon ships to help make them relevant again, but those sounded like they were still just at the idea stage.
Either way, don't get your hopes too high for a non-Klingon KDF ship in the near future, or that we'll be getting more than 2 anytime soon.
I wonder why they haven't done those yet.
True, the Fer'jai is classified as a frigate, but so are quite a few other npc ships. Take for example the hegh'ta class of BoP, the T'varo, or the JHAS. Now, the JHAS is both a carrier pet for the JH carriers, and a T5 universal faction ship. The B'rel (just bear with me here) also has a similar role as the JHAS- it is both a carrier pet [darn good one at that], a T1 ship, and a T5 ship for KDF. The Fer'jai's can still be called the Fer'jai frigate and be made a T5 3pack, just as the B'rel and JHAS are T5 (and T1 in the brel's special case due to its 2 pickup times) ships as well as carrier pets.
And, the K'norr itsef would be interesting to have as well
Reading this post, it occured to me that it's strange we don't have a T5 Miranda to match the T1/T5 versions the other starter ships and NPC frigate type ships have. Maybe that could be the new KDF ship - repurposing the ten billion Miranda's we've destroyed!
On a slightly more serious note - if there's a new KDF ship, I just hope it's ridiculously OP so that people will buy it regardless of what faction it belongs to.
Any proposal for a new 3-pack of ANY type should automatically be shot down and stomped on before the money grubbers at Cryptic can see it.
So... any proposal that could feasibly bring the KDF back to where it should be is a bad idea? Who cares if it gives them money? they have to pay the devs somehow, and if they made more KDF ships, some even in 3 packs, then they'd ill 2 birds with one stone- paying their employees, and giving KDF what we desperately need. Or would you rather them lose money and eventually close this game?
Except I was at least TRYING to maintain consitancy with the structure of the game as it was at launch. Unfortunatly, the programers decided to take the Jem Bug ship (a frigate) and make it a playable ship at T5. So they used the T5 B'Rel (and T5 Hegh'ta, basically the BOPS) as their justification. The T'varo as a BOP was maintaining consitancy with the Klingon BOP gaming system model. The B'Rel as a carrier pet was a rather new development as the T'Varo is NOT a carrier pet(yet). In essence, the Bug ship is the odd man out that broke the game model. I would rather they did NOT compound the mistake by doubleing down on that oversight.
That isn't to say most KDF BoPs could not use some upgrade to keep them updated.
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I believe Cryptic should throw some love towards the Klingons as atm it seems kinda like a ghost town. Not that it ever wasnt but yeah ...
Two words for more ships ... Ferasans ... Lethians.
We don't have ships for either.
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since Klingons have not gotten a new ship in what? 3 years and the promised new ship by 2014 don't look likely either. as well as feds and rommies getting 5 fore weapon ships, and Klingon BoPs being almost completely obsolete the entire line Of Klingon designed ships needs to be looked at. ALL OF THEM.
personally I do not want a 5/3 setup. We Klingons are the warrior race if the enemy develops a 5/3 and Klingons have 4/4 why would Klingons not find room for to make it 5/4 ...
id like to see a center hull mount with a 360 arc. that could hold anything except DHC/HC just so the feds don't cry too much. turning it into a 4/4 into 4/1/4
and since the game/devs do not like building KDF ships of any type if they could add the center hull weapon mount as a upgrade to all KDF ships it would be nice and save them allot of work and sell allot of upgrades .
add it to the ship tailor for a bunch of dil or zen or what ever.
b'rel now 4/2 = 4/1/2
tor'kaht now 4/4 = 4/1/4
Bortas now 4/4 = 4/1/4
vo'quv now 3/3 = 3/1/3
and so on
Also for bops id like to see wolf packs hardly ever in the shows did we see BoPs attacking solo during a time of war. maybe patrolling yes but in war they were almost always in 3s. if they left Bops alone as they are now but allowed Bop Pilots to control 2 other bops as wing men ( like we control Boffs ) it would be the most realistic addition they could give the Kdf to help BoPs become relevant again.
and make us buy the added bops, crew and equip them. not some silly fleet support summon BS
If they keep ignoring the KDF to the point we can not compete I don't care if the game does go under . I refuse to be forced to play as federation again was bad enough I had to play to lvl 25 to begin with. if they want my money they need to come up with something that I can buy again, since I already own all the current Klingon design items. and one catfish looking Kaferi carrier that I cant stand to use just because it looks so silly.
Give a Klingon what they want ant we will spend money.
they just need to figure out the die hard Klingons are not as silly as the typical federation player. we put in our dues, have been neglected and had to learn to get the most out of what we have for so long that some copy past content is NOT going to please us.
Ferengi rule of Acquisition #217: You can't free a fish from water.
That center turret idea, while nice is not likely to happen. If KDF gets it, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Feddiebear whiners will demand that they get it too.
I'm kind of with you on that. The incentive to continue playing gets even more diminished. Especially now with Laser equipped Tyrannosaurus Rexes in the game, which strains credulity.
I would hope that if they decide to close down the game, that sell a few server routers with all of the software and infrastructure to those of us who want to have our own copy of a fully functional server for local host games. I would buy two. One for use, and the other as the back-up to reinstall if the working copy because corrupted.
They could make ships for either and or more...
IF only they cared enough to do it. It only took them what 2 years to make the KDF an actuall race so now it will take them 3 more to get them so actual ships set up
What about lockboxes? At least C store ships are account wide, and leaving Klingons with only lockboxes as their choice of ships is rather expensive. Wouldn't you say it would be more fair if we had the choice of going C Store instead of lockbox, as the Federation does?
All I know is that the Ferasan people DESERVE to have there own ships. Its hard to find the litter box on those Klingon ships currently in the shipyards ... and we aren't even gonna talk about the Gorn and Orion ships.
Seriously ... I'm reminded of Capt. Geko's comment in a recent interview (G&T I believe) where he talked about one of the hold-ups on the new KDF 5 fore cruiser being trying to come up with a new Klingon look for it.
I thought to myself .... Ferasan! ... It would have given the ship designers a clean slate.
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That won't happen.
And you can thank the Enterprise-F contest and the attitudes displayed by the community there for that.
After the behaviour on display CBS decided not to hold any more contests.
I had forgotten. On the upside, something that can not be blaimed on the KDF.
R.I.P
Oh, I bet they'll find a way. Probably somehting about Communist...I mean TRIBBLE...I mean Tailiban...I mean Klingon infiltrators that were used to stir up trouble disguised as Feds.
I bet they will forget the idea and make something completely new like Cardassian race or something xD