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Season 8 ~ Meh?
flash525
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Now I don't want to sound ungrateful or anything, any new content is good content, but is anyone else not particularly excited for Season 8? From what I'm aware, it just seems like another Season 7; a new zone, a new set of marks, and another reputation grind.
Season 5 brought us F2P (when I joined, even though I've since purchased a lifetime membership). Obviously it was all new to me then, so whatever came with Season 5, as far as I was concerned was Star Trek Online in general (as I hadn't known different from before). Season 6 brought us the Fleet System, which was a nice touch (if not a massive grind); though with the right number of dedicated people (thus not yet found by me) it's achievable to max out.
Season 7 was the works; the detail of New Romulus and the story that intertwined was brilliant, and (during my early runs at least) I really enjoyed it. I remember admiring the new Romulan homeworld, and of course we got the Embassy System too. If only them Embassy Bridge Officers were open to customization... :rolleyes:
Then came LoR; an expansion rather than a season, and whilst it was enjoyable for a time, in my opinion it left a lot to be desired. I know many people were expecting a true Romulan faction when the news hit, and I'd be a fool to think that Cryptic didn't know that. Still, they decided to go mini and release what they did. That's unlikely to change now so we'll stick with it. I should note here that although I really wanted a true faction out of the green guys, I did enjoy their content, all of it. I just felt there was much missing; much like enjoying a slice of cheesecake when you'd enjoy two slices more. :P
But back to Season 8; it sounds a lot like I'll be rerunning Season 7, and in honesty there is no appeal to me. The Voth seemingly came out of nowhere, and whilst Dinosaurs with lasers are cool, I'm not quite convinced that they should appear in a Trek game. That, and the never-ending story; with respect to the writers for what they've done so far, but we seem to be getting a lot of new story content whilst not picking up from the old:
We've countless plot details or story aspects that have seemingly hit a dead end, and instead of tying some (or all) of them up, we get something brand new. I'm sure it'll all come together in the end (I live in hope) but the aspect of STO's story is much like it's content; old story/content (instead of concluded/fixed) is merely added upon.
Suffice to say, I wont be in any hurry to try Season 8. It hasn't got a huge appeal to me and doesn't strike me as anything new or unique. Sorry. Am I alone here?
Edit: The only thing that does actually interest me is the new Federation Tutorial, though I'm not sure whether that'll be open to existing characters. I'm not about to create another character just so I can play a Tutorial.
Season 5 brought us F2P (when I joined, even though I've since purchased a lifetime membership). Obviously it was all new to me then, so whatever came with Season 5, as far as I was concerned was Star Trek Online in general (as I hadn't known different from before). Season 6 brought us the Fleet System, which was a nice touch (if not a massive grind); though with the right number of dedicated people (thus not yet found by me) it's achievable to max out.
Season 7 was the works; the detail of New Romulus and the story that intertwined was brilliant, and (during my early runs at least) I really enjoyed it. I remember admiring the new Romulan homeworld, and of course we got the Embassy System too. If only them Embassy Bridge Officers were open to customization... :rolleyes:
Then came LoR; an expansion rather than a season, and whilst it was enjoyable for a time, in my opinion it left a lot to be desired. I know many people were expecting a true Romulan faction when the news hit, and I'd be a fool to think that Cryptic didn't know that. Still, they decided to go mini and release what they did. That's unlikely to change now so we'll stick with it. I should note here that although I really wanted a true faction out of the green guys, I did enjoy their content, all of it. I just felt there was much missing; much like enjoying a slice of cheesecake when you'd enjoy two slices more. :P
But back to Season 8; it sounds a lot like I'll be rerunning Season 7, and in honesty there is no appeal to me. The Voth seemingly came out of nowhere, and whilst Dinosaurs with lasers are cool, I'm not quite convinced that they should appear in a Trek game. That, and the never-ending story; with respect to the writers for what they've done so far, but we seem to be getting a lot of new story content whilst not picking up from the old:
We've countless plot details or story aspects that have seemingly hit a dead end, and instead of tying some (or all) of them up, we get something brand new. I'm sure it'll all come together in the end (I live in hope) but the aspect of STO's story is much like it's content; old story/content (instead of concluded/fixed) is merely added upon.
Suffice to say, I wont be in any hurry to try Season 8. It hasn't got a huge appeal to me and doesn't strike me as anything new or unique. Sorry. Am I alone here?
Edit: The only thing that does actually interest me is the new Federation Tutorial, though I'm not sure whether that'll be open to existing characters. I'm not about to create another character just so I can play a Tutorial.
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But to be fair it's never going to be enough, no amount of new content will stop the masses crying out for more. It's doubly difficult when the last batch of new content was a full on expansion.
I expect it to be another S7, the hype will last until everyone has played the content to death due to it being new and of course the new rep system to feed. Then it'll be another ghost town like New Romulus.
im very much looking forward to season 8 and all its aspects. i expect plenty of people wont, as with every update ever.
no you cant play the tutorial as an existing character. if you want to see it then load up tribble and play it there.
the only real thing that interested me was the battlezones then the dinosaurs, bipedal or otherwise. and the fed tutorial, luckily for old players who don't want to get off their nice comfortable backsides to try it out for a few minutes, you can pick up Cadet Flores for your crew.
to be honest im more looking forward to the winter event thats incoming. outside that, AC4: black flag on pc.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I find the design of the Voth ships and the general lore behind the Dyson Sphere to be lacking. Just like the Obelisk carrier I don't find them particularly appealing.
Not even a T-Rex and a new ground combat zone are going to suddenly make me enjoy ground combat. It's New Romulus all over, quickly you are only there for Epohh Tagging or you simply don't beam down anymore at all. Besides, I also think putting dinosaur combat in Star Trek is really jumping the shark.
The two space combat zones are set in a big ship and in the atmosphere of the Dyson Sphere. It is fun for a while and then I thought I would rather have space combat in space rather than have this planetary background.
STO's narrative has so many dead ends and is rather weak. The Borg/Undine arc is a proper mess. I hope there will be a Dominion/Cardassian expansion. That's not really that fresh and new, but I am quite sure people care about the Voth even less than they did about the Elachi.
it needs to be given some time before that answer is known with the Voth. however people were asking for more Delta quadrant and now they got it. i never voted but if i had it would be more on the gamma quadrant then the Iconian gate thing which itself has become a massive plot hole.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
This is, unless you're in fact a new member and have acquired those 2000 posts more recently by jumping into topics and posting as little (or characterless) as possible. :rolleyes:
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I've tested most of it on tribble. I can see the new battlezone getting old fast. Ground combat needs a proper update before they add more ground content like this.
And the dinosaurs are stupid. What happened to making the game more Star Trek. It's just dumped into the game because Geko thought it would be "cool". I listened to an interview where he said something about how it's the nature of Star Trek to explore new life and strange ideas so it's okay to put dinosaurs in the game and that MMOs need escalating villains and bigger enemies. Well you could have taken the opportunity to create your own monsters. Get creative, don't just stick a laser on a T-rex's head.
I'm not interested in the Voth and the delta quadrant. Maybe if they were just in a featured episode series like they originally planned. But not an entire season dedicated to them. Maybe because Voyager is my least favourite series. And I thought the new FE was supposed to introduce them but it seems they're just dumped into the new season without a proper introduction.
And the new Dyson ground gear makes us look like robotic bipedal dinosaurs. At least they tried to make the Maco and Honour Guard gear look Star Trekky. But now it's like they've just given up.
Storming the Spire is just another flying around in a circle shooting down enemies like most of the other queued missions. Same mission, just a different background.
Only thing I really like is The Breach.
S8 is about to hit holodeck tommorow and I'm more like "whatever". IDK, I just don't feel that there is much substance in it for me. I'll reserve final judgement untill I play it on holodeck, but to be honest I fully expect to max out the rep. on my main and go back to fighting Borg and Tholians completely foregting that S8 ever existed. If the grind is bearable this time, I might do the rep. on my 2 other primary chars in the 2 other factions, but that's about it.
I know there are people that will like it and I know there are pople that will hate it. I liked LoR and the Romulan Republic, others hated the concept of not being RSE. I guess not every season is for everyone. S8 definitely doesn't feel like something tailored to my interests, so 'meh' unless I'm pleasantly suprised with something exciting that makes sense for a change.
I'm looking forwards to it and willing to give it a try before going "this is rubbish". I'm hoping the 2 5-main PvE are fun and interesting in the way that Azure Nebula Rescue wasn't. And I've only tried the Battle Zone once but had a good time and came away with a stack of Dyson Marks.
So there's a new fleet holding to grind to get Very Rare MkXII Tac Consoles. It's going to be less effort than trying to create them from Strange Alien Artefacts. But if you only look at the negative, dismiss the different as "more of the same" and ignore the new, then no, you won't want to try it.
EDIT - Let the cries of "fanboy" commence!!!
There are good points. A brand new enemy, Capture-and-Hold PvE. Space Adventure Zone.
Bad points are the rep/fleet grind that is incoming as well as the shadow-of-immersion-breaking dinosaurs.
A new Fed tutorial? Meh. Can't play it as it stands. No char slots, and my Tribble boycot (see next lines).
I have Tribble. But aside from my boycot (ever since the Nukara Tribble giveaway 2013, never forget) I only wanted to log on Tribble once. That was last Saturday to see if the Social Function Debacle of Saturday 9th, 19:00h CET (never forget) also hit Tribble.
Speaking of that debacle, if such major bugs already occur BEFORE the launch, I might not have a lot of time to test S8 next week. Me and my fleet's other leader are expecting to meet again next week, when the bug spray has done its immediate job.
So: Season 8 ~ Meh? I agree, meh indeed.
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My KDF Cardassian captain and his pet Elachi crawler sitting in his Borg-enhanced Tholian ship sitting over New Romulus agrees that this really ruins immersion.
I've hopped over on tribble and it's inspired me to do some new ships builds in preparation for Season 8. I got to test out the new sets, and I'm quite eager to go earn the space shield set once it goes live. It may not take care of your hull as well as the assimilated 2-set, but it can take a real beating as far as shields are concerned. I dig the sleek, white look on my Neghvar as well.
Mind you, I'm a bit tired of queues by now. The open-ended nature of the space combat is a very welcome change of pace for me. The Voth keep you moving as well; sitting still is a recipe for ineffectual death against the larger encounters.
Pretty much this^^^
Not sure I could put it in written form, any better...
I shall do the bare minimum to get my main to T5, and then forget S8 ever existed.
All the price hikes put an end to the two alts I made. They have since been sent to the deletion grinder....
Cryptic really needs to take a step back and consider opening up the sandbox elements. "Sandbox" doesn't mean a collection of queues and everyone waits around for theirs to pop. We need more playgrounds like starbases and a revitalization of social zones in the same way Drozana was updated with LoR. Emergent systems are what create sustainable gameplay in my book--which is why games like EVE and SWG have/had such loyal niches.
So I will do the Voth missions till my eyes bleed, plus you can get a lot Dil from Voth than the Borg.
My characters are now retired from the BORG STF, and will never ever set foot in them ever again. Even if I make a new character , he's going straight into the Voth missions and skipping the Borg STF, because I never want to see the Borg ever again.
Love the fact that loads of people are saying that the dinosaur thing isn't 'Trek', where do they think the devs got the idea from???
+1. good comment.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
This kind of statement doesn't really make sense to me since S8 is already here, currently being played on Tribble. We also have a long list of devblogs which cover every aspect of the release in varying detail.
I don't have to try every type of fish to know I don't like seafood. In other words: You don't have to play S8 to know it doesn't excite you.
I agree with this... would like to see some story arcs tied up. I feel like I'm in ADHD dream world sometimes. Lots stories and things to do going in a million directions without any succinct story line. Maybe that's just MMOs I don't know since this is the only one I play regularly. Don't get me wrong this season brings a lot of stuff together from the shows and some very old story in the game but it just appears to have many half finished stories that were started and left unfinished. I would have thought before we looked for trouble in the delta quadrant we would have wrapped up some stuff in our own backyard.
I'm still very happy for the new content even if I would have gone another direction.
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The game just isn't as exciting as it was. Where is the challenge? We just shoot through everything now, new elite missions the same low difficult as the old elite missions? uh ya, fantastic, won and bored after the first week. Cryptic needs to fix the foundation of the game before slapping more junk onto it.
And the real reason for the meh feeling is because they won't fix it, we know they won't; a few weeks after release they'll be working on S9 (some definitely are already) and making the next set of half finished features and irrelevant missions, all of which will launch too soon, be buggy and full of stuff the players really aren't looking for.
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Agreed. Nice comment.
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Sometimes, everything new in a Season is not shown all at once
So Season 8's launch might seem meh now, and launch may or may not change that opinion, but it's hardly begun no matter how you look at it.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
IMHO, S8 isn't 6 months of content either and S9 is coming late next spring.