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New lock box in 6 days and no key sale? Also new Voth carrier 800 lobi?
newromulan1
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That's unusual. I was sure they always had a key sale just before a new box?
On a second note - who is interested in getting the Voth flight deck carrier? And what exactly is a 'flight deck carrier"
On a second note - who is interested in getting the Voth flight deck carrier? And what exactly is a 'flight deck carrier"
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A flight deck carrier is one with only one hangar bay and can only launch smaller crafts.
No, he means Flight-Deck Carrier. It was leaked in am image of the ship's pets that one new ship is called the Voth Bastion Flight Deck Carrier.
Ignore what I just said. It's a pile of dicks.
Where is the image?
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Disgergard what I said in my post. I'm such a goon.
It does say "flight deck cruiser," not carrier.
Edit: To the OP's point, we don't actually know if the new lockbox is coming Tuesday. We usually have at least 2-3 days of dev blogs on it, and we're still due for a couple related to S8 itself. There's usually an all-the-boxes event between a lockbox ending and a new one starting. Key sale usually lines up either with that or the new lockbox rather than the end of the current one.
How odd... A rear torpedo launcher and a rear array, but only a forward array...
That's happening at the minute. I just had a Temporal LB drop.
I would say that releasing the Voth lock box on Nov 12th is almost a certainty.
Nowhere in Star Trek has a carrier ever been seen in use (The Scimitar was shown with that capability in Nemesis, but Nemesis sucked, so whatever...) yet this game is being spammed with more and more carriers every day.
Carriers have absolutely no Trek 'feel' to me... Then again, neither do Dinosaurs with lasers on their heads.
Do a search. I bet you find a "no more cruisers" thread following the "no more escorts" thread.
Should they just stop new ships altogether?
You know that there are only actually five carriers in the game, right? Atrox, Vo'Quv, Recluse, Jem Dread and Obelisk (not counting fleet and advanced versions).
Everything else is just an escort or cruiser with a compilmentary hangar bay.
And this is all without mentioning that canonically, most Trek ships can carry and launch a wing of small craft.
Avenger doesn't have one, the RR didn't have any till recently, the Tal Shiar lockbox didn't have any, and neither did the Elachi lockbox.
Every lockbox launched this year (Dominion, Tal Shiar, Elachi) has been immediately after the previous lockbox was discontinued. We used to have respites with no lockboxes, but no more.
I know to never say never with the devs, but they never have launched a lockbox the same day one is discontinued and they always take the week it's to be launched to go into details about the ships and items that are contained in the box.
Hasn't the Elachi box been discontinued? I've looted a huge variety of lockboxes (Temporal, Tal'Shiar, Cardassian...) for at least a week now, instead of just the Elachi box.
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1) Akira was DESIGNED to be a light carrier.
2) During the Dominion War, many Galaxy's were converted to "flight deck cruisers" carrying squadrons of Peregrines.
3) Scimitar is a "flight deck cruiser"
I'm in no way saying we need MORE carriers. However when you take into account the number of escorts, cruisers and science vessels in the game, carriers are just a drop in the bucket.
Now true, the main argument is that carriers don't fit with "Gene's Vision."
But I am sure we can all agree, that Utopia will never exist, there will ALWAYS be aggressive species, and there needs to be a defense against them.
One of the things that always annoyed me about Trek is that the Federation believes in love and peace, so they don't have any self defense weapons against a p[otential enemy?
The first time the Borg attacked Earth, they should have had beefed up Starfleet's "military capabilities."
Planetary defensive systems (gound based guns, missiles... orbital platforms and at the very least a Sector Fleet)
The Breen drove RIGHT TO EARTH and burned it to the ground totally uncontested.
at the very least, a carrier battle group, acting as a defense fleet would have slowed them down until help arrived.
Sorry about turning it into a military post, but that was always a sticking point for me, and carriers can play a pivotal role in military engagements. I've gotten fighters (at least in PVE) up to 3 and 4 stars and they can really make a difference.
USS Immortal NX-93608-F (Oddyssey Tactical Cruiser)
VADM Rogueshadow IRW Kirino Kosaka (Valdore Retrofit)
LT General Morbo IKS Karac (Bortasqu War Cruiser)
LT General Posu IKS Saya Takagi (Chel Grett Warship)
Well it's still listed as active and is dropping...launcher says 6 days with the Elachi Escort in the picture.
But if we don't get a blog soon, like today or tomorrow the odds are slim we will see the lockbox with the season 8 launch. Maybe friday...but they usually don't do to many announcements and the friday screen shot.
You do realize that you're talking about a fictional universe right? Whatever the people creating the franchise decide to exist - it exists, utopia or not.
What makes you say that the ideals they believe in mean they don't have any self defense?
Yes, that's exactly what they do.
I have zero inside knowledge - but it has happened before most lock box releases in the past.
Well obviously. But THAT is the point I am trying to make... in general carriers didn't exist because it didn't fit THEIR (Gene at the time) view of how the universe works. So now that STO has taken that "vision" in a different direction ther eis no reason to NOT have Fed warships.
Obviously there is a "modicum" of self defense, however for a government with over 150 member planets, who's representatives meet on Earth. There is a surprising lack of security.
I'll refer to my earlier point, during the Dominion War, the Breen marched right into the heart of the Federation, unchallenged, and sacked Earth. Leading me to believe that any self defense forces around the Sol system were vastly inferior. It also leads me to suspect that the Breen fleet never ran into any border patrols, or starbases, or any sort of sector patrols on their way from the other side of the Federation.
USS Immortal NX-93608-F (Oddyssey Tactical Cruiser)
VADM Rogueshadow IRW Kirino Kosaka (Valdore Retrofit)
LT General Morbo IKS Karac (Bortasqu War Cruiser)
LT General Posu IKS Saya Takagi (Chel Grett Warship)
So basically - to hell with the IP. Nothing personal and not adressed at you, I'm just dismayed with Cryptic's cheap way of handling things.
But the point is, if carriers didn't fit the vision of the IP as you say, why are we playing a game that still carries the name of the IP but contradicts almost everyting that IP portrayed in the past 50 years?
Well, to be honest, you have to take into consideration that by the time the Breen joined the Dominion in the war, the Federation forces were streched so very thin that such an attack does not seem completely impossible. I mean at the point the Breen joined the war the Fed/KDF alliance was loosing badly that even Sisko deemed neccessary to trick the RSE into joining the alliance in order for them to survive. And even then, that alliance with the RSE included would have still lost the war if it wasn't for Legate Damar and the Cardassians switching sides.
So in my view, the success of the Breen attack on Earth - which was not that succesfull IMHO given the low number of casualities, does not mean that Earth and the Federation had no defenses due to their peaceloving ideals, but rather they were losing a war dearly and their defence resources were stretched way too thin to provide sufficient protection at theat stage of the conflict.