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salamiinferno
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Soldiers, and Dinos, and Mechs, oh my! Have bugs, feedback, concerns, or suggestions about this group? Leave them here!
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As soon as the new build comes up on tribble, you'll be able to test them.
Systems Designer - Cryptic Studios
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Cool... I'm patching it now glad its come this far I was getting very bored
I've been flying around for ages with no luck
Voth:
The Voth Medics didn't spam heal at all, but thought it odd that you fought more medics than troops.
The Voth Commanders were not easy to take down, but their Orbital Strike graphics need to be adjusted, the AoE is far greater than the displayed targeting circle. And it needs to be far more apparent, given the intensity of the battle, it's not noticeable at times.
Really not sure how to suggest any improvements with these guys. The Medic and Commander were tough, but the others were wimps and uninteresting.
The Mechs:
The Cera wasn't much of a threat at all, just a mortar spammer. Though thought it funny when one jumped on top of the generator building and attacked from above. Perhaps if that was more of a norm?
But the Dac was quite a tough nut to crack. Was rather clever to have the shield push you back while the Voth reclaim the capture point. However, it has one major weakness that can be exploited, and that is the Engineer Cover Shield. If you drop a CS along the path, it protects you from the repelling action of the Dac shield and you can get right next to it and drop bombs or spam turrets.
The Mini Boss Mechs, just a bigger Cera that was as much of a wimp.
Be funny (probably annoying as well) if they could push you off the spire ledge and make you fall to your doom. But currently you just end up sandwiched against the walls.
Also be nice if there was some kind of weak spot to exploit with the shooter mode.
Dinos:
The Dans were....... more bark than their bite. On rare times, they could land a decent hit, but overall they were wimps. :P
The Furis, at first I thought they were Rex's, but they just spammed lasers. Wasn't quite a challenge. Was fun riflebutting them to death.
The Rex's, was a good choice for a boss battle. They did not go down easy. But offensively, eh I just didn't feel anything.
If I had to suggest improvements with the Dinos, it would be this:
Dan's, have them long-range leap and pin you down like a Raptor would. You got the Mugato to do that, why not these guys?
Furi's, pin down like a Dan, but give them a swiping capability with their tail and give you a small knockback. Perhaps with a 1 second recovery as you "snap out of it".
Rex's, have them the ability to pin you down. Give them the ability to bite you and toss you HIGH in the air! (Fall damage baby!) And let them do some major knockbacks as they swipe you with that tail! Talking baseball HOME RUN!
Something more along the lines of Defera would help, side missions or the like to make things more interesting.
As it stands it's hold and area, deactivate generators or move a generator then boss fight.
Some fun little sub missions like the defera easy and medium missions might make for a more interesting experience.
Lore accolades or something might be nice.
I've also found that the Park V-Rex tends not to spawn once the other territories are captured.
Over all it is very good but unlike Defera I can see it getting stale very quickly.
Not much to do. the whole map is blue with only 3 small red zones.
Does the Zone need to be reset or am I missing some thing.
yes there is major problems atm
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That being said, the strike commanders and spec ops voth are tough enemies that can certainly surprise you.
The biggest issue IMO is the same issue all ground pve has. Any of these new enemies can be rendered totally immobilized and unable to respond simply by spamming the secondary attack of a sword to chain the unresistable knockback. It's a problem that has gone unanswered in pve and pvp. Even if the difficulty is adjusted, it won't make any difference to sword users. Press 222222222222 until the opponent is dead and it won't even get a chance to respond. Return that secondary to an expose attack like it used to be and require a successful combo completion to get the knockback like the other melee weapons and problem solved.
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Operations Team, 12th Fleet
Each of the 3 sectors had one outstanding red zone in each of the sectors. So I spent 30 minutes beaming to the remaing red zones and never saw anything of combat. My 30 minutes came to an ubrupt end when I fell off the spire. When I landed I walked for ages looking up at the spires. I'm guessing this shouldn't have happened as the /stuck co and did nothing and I was unable to beam to my ship. Just trapped in limbo.
Not a great first test run but I'll try again tomorrow providing my alt doesn't beam in to limbo where I left him.
EDIT, oops, wrong thread
My character Tsin'xing
I am guessing it was taken down.
The Voth play-dead-and-get-back-up thing feels like it happens too frequently and too quickly. Perhaps reduce the chance of it happening and make the time involved more than a few seconds. Right now it just feels like you have kill some Voth twice. Maybe if they have a longer time playing dead, so players move away and can be surprised by an extra Voth or two instead of the current fight 2 waves of Voth at the same time situation that happens now. This is of course an issue that might not present it self on Holodeck, but the lower population on tribble means with fewer players you can be overwhelmed faster.
Also, the Voth mortars do waaayyyyyy too much damage.
~Tear
The frakking feign death. It's not even that it feels like in every group besides the most basic ones there is at least one of them using it, the most annoying part of it is that after they get up they get a several second lasting damage immunity. And usualy (since you are moving towards the still standing enemies) you are guaranteed to target them the second they stand up because of course they are lying closer to you than the remaining alive foes.
Sooooo annoying. If you make cat dinos with multiple lives please don't make them immune to my shiny omega carabine ,c
Voth Medics are far too weak and they appear to spawn far more often than other Voth enemies. They don't use their healing abilities very often either.
I only encountered two Spec Ops Troopers while in the battlezone. It would be nice if you gave them Target Optics III and Motion Accelerator III while also having them perform in combat cloaking before decloaking to strike again.
I did not encounter any Strike Commanders this time around. When I do I will add feedback here.
Bio-Engineered Dankanasaurs were interesting. Their leap attack made them priority targets, but they fell a bit too quickly. Alone they aren't much of a threat, it would be nice if they attacked in coordinated groups of two or four, as it would more of a challenge.
Bio-Engineered Furiadons were mild. The beam attacks from their head barely scratched shields and they went down rather quickly.
Bio-Engineered Viriosaurus Rex was unimpressive. An engineer player and I managed to beat him in about 4 minutes with our away teams. His beam attacks were underwhelming, his mortar attacks were harmful but easy enough to dodge, and his tail attack was basically just a massive AoE knockback.
Ceratopsid-class Exosuits were pushovers. I just didn't feel threatened when hit by their rapid fire chargeup mode. I've been more threatened by three player controlled players shooting me with Omega Force Autocarbines than I was when I was hit by the mech's weapons. I had no reason to break line of sight.
Dacentrus-class Exosuits were annoyingly hard to bring down. Not due to their hit points or armor, but due to their Voth Mech Repair Drones, which make them invincible until the drones are destroyed. Not only are the drones small with massive shield regen, but they are also classified as a "pet", making it very difficult to get a target lock. At times it was also difficult to even see them over the flashy shields deployed by the exosuits. Overall though, once the repair drones were down, the exosuits were very easy to bring down. Prolonged burn was the exosuit's only dangerous attack, but they rarely use it.
Mini-boss Exosuits were a cakewalk. I was able to kill them alone with my bridge officers.
Long Range Artillery needs to have clearer warning visuals. Right now it's very difficult to distinguish between the standard mech mortars and the artillery shells that deal about 5,000 damage over 3 seconds. I died four times in the battlezone, all four from these artillery shells.
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Real join date: March 2012 / PvP Veteran since May 2012 (Ground and Space)
"Space" combat is fine, a few issues of not being able to actually DO the mission as the interact doesn't activate anything.
Ground seems like it would be fun.
Until that ****ing fog rolls in.
I'll get a tiny amount of chop when I'm in combat, but when that fog rolls in I'm looking at a frakking slide show.
PLEASE either get rid of the fog or let us turn it off in our settings.
If it remains in place I and others will likely not be able to play the ground portions of the new content.
I'm running on a Laptop as I don't currently have a tower PC available and up until this the only problem I've had with the game has been the 20 player fleet mission.
In general though I found I was hopelessly out numbered or the space was virtually empty. In the Nukara area at least there was always something to do one every level ... here there seemed to be no middle ground.
I's give it a 7 out of 10.