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FHEC compare to Avenger

uss917019uss917019 Member Posts: 182 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Federation Discussion
Hello all i just wanted to tell my opinion on this and i just want to say that in my opinion that if i see the FHEC (Armitage) that I currently drive right now and then when i compared it to the avenger the size of it is that the FHEC is way bigger then the Avenger but the turn rate of the FHEC is set to 15 deggrees per sec and for the Avenger is set to 9 like i would of thought that smaller ships should be turning way much more then bigger ships. Plus i got to say that the Avenger looks really cool but the only thing i dont like is the turn rate of it.

Now about the turn rate issue this is just me seeing it but if anyone can explain to me somehing else i would be happy to listen and understand why.
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    tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,637 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Ship classes matter more than model size in STO. Battlecruisers (except the Tal Shiar one) get a turnrate of 9-10 but get higher hull/shield HP and (slightly) less tactical focus compared to escorts. As for a justification... Maybe the extra armor increases the mass enough that it is harder to turn than the partially-empty shell the Armitage has for the hangar bay.
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    rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    yeah, I've noticed that too. The problem is the Akira is supposed to be a cruiser rather than an escort in star trek lore and the devs use actual data on ship sizes.

    The sizes are correct it's just the classes they put the ships in are weird.
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    orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Yeah, never got why the Akira class was made into an escort. Then again I don't understand why the Breen warship was treated more or less as an escort.
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    pwstolemynamepwstolemyname Member Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    the devs use actual data on ship sizes.

    I thought this for a while to. Then I tried docking my defiant with DS9 one day.... I am also told by those who have read the books that the Vesta is meant to be larger then the sovereign. Apparently they shrunk the vesta because they didn't want it turning faster then a smaller ship.

    So it seems that in some cases they tried to keep things to scale, and in others not. Also check out how large the small craft are.
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    castlebravo023castlebravo023 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    If you REALLY want a laugh, compare the "hangar pet" BoPs and Aquarius escorts to the playable ones. :P
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    trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    edalgo wrote: »
    The real question should be how does the fleet battlecruiser compare to the fleet assault cruiser.

    Assualt more hull, 300 more crew and lt engi.

    Battle more turn, higher inertia rating, can equip Dual/Dual Heavy Cannons, can equip cloak and lt sci.

    Both perform about the same, only difference right now is the Advanced Comm Array. It comes to play style and preference (to which the cloak and DC/DHC might add a more escort like role).

    EDIT: Fleet Assault also only gets a 5% shield buff vs the Fleet Battlecruiser's 10%.
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    jetwtfjetwtf Member Posts: 1,207
    edited October 2013
    Hafeh verses galaxy or any other cruiser turn rates. enough said about size of the ship mandating turn rates. Hafeh is a big ship but it is clasified as an escort and has the turn of an escort.
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    rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    pwstolemyname wrote: »
    I thought this for a while to. Then I tried docking my defiant with DS9 one day.... I am also told by those who have read the books that the Vesta is meant to be larger then the sovereign. Apparently they shrunk the vesta because they didn't want it turning faster then a smaller ship.

    So it seems that in some cases they tried to keep things to scale, and in others not. Also check out how large the small craft are.

    The starships are all scaled but not DS9. A Dev chimed in on that a few months back in the general section.
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    baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    just my humble opinion, but the HEC has 2-3 too much turnrate...12 or 13 turnrate would fit size and role better.
    the jem'hadar heavy escort carrier has this limitation. Why the HEC has more turn is beyond reason.
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    pwstolemynamepwstolemyname Member Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    The starships are all scaled but not DS9. A Dev chimed in on that a few months back in the general section.

    A Dev also said the vesta wasn't to scale for the reason I stated. And the defiant's scale is slightly larger then it should be.

    The truth is that the relative scale of the ships as portrayed in the films and shows was variable. They scaled ships differently to achieve different impressions in different shots, and often messed up the number of decks ships could possibly have given stated dimensions.

    STO is no different. Like the shows they tried to be mostly consistent. But they have taken liberties for verius reasons.
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