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Galaxy Retrofit (Galaxy X) saucer-sep suggestion.
alfanx01
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I don't know if the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit will be receiving a saucer-sep ability. However, it may intended to be released before Season 8. Upcoming Content Link
I had this really cool idea, after watching a parody of the ST:TNG:
Link to the video
I am thinking if the ship is in saucer sep mode, the ability to fire spinal lance is unavailable as it takes a lot of power to fire, it requires the complete ship to fire. However, after muddling of finding a reason to fire the lance (since it's attached to the saucer anyway, and yes, people may argue that it's the stardrive), I have found a reason why the saucer should have the ability to fire spinal lance, but at great cost.
What if there's a tough enemy and the spinal lance is the last hope of destroying the enemy ship? Phasers and it's aft hidden torpedo might not be effective, but the lance could.
Of course, this would take all power on the saucer to fire that thing, thus leaving it a drift.
Plus, this might open up to a small story in STO.
What do you think? Do you think the dev should allow the saucer to fire its spinal lance on command thus making it powerless until it's been re-intergrated?
I had this really cool idea, after watching a parody of the ST:TNG:
Link to the video
I am thinking if the ship is in saucer sep mode, the ability to fire spinal lance is unavailable as it takes a lot of power to fire, it requires the complete ship to fire. However, after muddling of finding a reason to fire the lance (since it's attached to the saucer anyway, and yes, people may argue that it's the stardrive), I have found a reason why the saucer should have the ability to fire spinal lance, but at great cost.
What if there's a tough enemy and the spinal lance is the last hope of destroying the enemy ship? Phasers and it's aft hidden torpedo might not be effective, but the lance could.
Of course, this would take all power on the saucer to fire that thing, thus leaving it a drift.
Plus, this might open up to a small story in STO.
What do you think? Do you think the dev should allow the saucer to fire its spinal lance on command thus making it powerless until it's been re-intergrated?
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Has always had saucer sep....
Now if your talking about the dreadnought, there has been no news... last we heard was it was still bugged and put on back burner while they work on other stuff
The reason why the Galaxy-X doesn't have saucer-sep yet is because there's a lot of work needed to make the separation animation look good, and since they introduced the tech for moving separation with the Odyssey, they're not content with how the Galaxy's saucer sep is implemented, and they need to redo the whole thing.
Personally, I hope they get the thing done by May 23, 2014 at the latest.
There are better improvements that should be made for the Galaxy X. A more tactical Boff layout or universal slots, integral battle cloak, additional Tac consoles, cruiser commands, etc. A space shotgun isn't canon nor necessary. The lance should be what it is right now. The only thing it needs is the ability to choose weapon damage type for synergy with the captains chosen weapon preference.
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What the ship needs is a decent BOFF/Console layout.
I say that it should be a trade-off. If you use separation, the lance weapon becomes disabled. My explanation would be that the "receiver" or firing chamber is on deck 10 or 11 on the star drive, while the focusing "barrel" for the weapon is in the bottom of the saucer. To fire the weapon while separated would be like trying to fire a conventional gun WITHOUT a forward barrel; firing with just the receiving chamber. That would be very dangerous and nearly uncontrolled.
In this game it's also a VERY lame gimmick. They throw in multi vector or saucer sep or stupid pets at the expense of a console slot.
NONE of them is worth it. The best ships in this game have NONE of those features. What they have is a good boff setup, good console slots, and their features are INNATE (no freaking console needed for a cloak!).
Agreed, but the ability to command it to stay put, support target, attack target, or engage enemies can be part of that emergency ability. And going into combat is always an emergency scenario.
Agreed again. The Galaxy Exploration Retrofit loses 13% of its hull and 97.5% of its crew on separation. Losing a console slot for the ability is a bit of overkill.
Agreed again. Tying saucer separation to a console is silly. Did adding a console make the bulkheads and docking mechanisms between the sections magically appear?
And a ship capable of changing its configuration so radically should also have some flexibility in its Bridge Officer Assignments, Console Slots, and Weapons Loadout.
Still... I fly an Exploration Retrofit most of the time. And I separate the saucer in most combat situations. So, as getting the Commander or Lt. Commander Station changed from Eng to Uni is not likely to happen, I'll be happy to get Saucer Commands.
The constitution also had a separation mode, and struts under the saucer that would fold down allowing atmospheric landing. Again it was an ejector seat, and not used.
Even when it was used against the borg in TNG it was only used as a surprise tactic BECAUSE it wasn't a combat modele. The weapons were running off backup power. It was a distraction, and a hail-mary pass at that.
No ship in this game should ever have saucer sep.
lol Whatever.
Every army -- ever -- trains its soldiers, sailors, pilots, to handle the situation and to remain calm and rely on training.
Do not confuse "red alert" or "battle stations" levels of attentiveness for fear and no other options but to abandon ship. Because that is what saucer sep is. It's the equivelant of abandoning ship so you don't DIE when it goes down. At this point all combat has ceased and you are in a true emergency situation.
Your comment is akin to saying "all commercial airline travel is a state of emergency."
It (your statement) is wrong. Simply put.
The lance already looks like it has two parts, the thicker part near the stardrive and the relatively smaller part more forward on the saucer. If the Galaxy-X gets a saucer separation, the smaller part of the lance should retract somewhat into the thicker part, as the saucer is separating. Due to the shortened 'barrel' of the lance, it has less range, and a shotgun-like effect rather than the beam. That's how I've always envisioned it separating, if it ever does.
Just a thought.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
A) Don't confuse your imagination with reality.
C) lol Whatever.
I always thought of it as a way to safe guard the civilians. I know at least one episode of TNG where they knew they where going into combat and detached the Saucer before they left.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
dknight is correct. The creators of the show intended it to be used as a way of keeping the civilians out of harms way. (just imagine what people would think of our heroes bringing their families in to combat!) However it was very expensive to separate the ship (it used a giant six foot model of the ship) and ILM who owned it was not the main SFX house for TNG. Most of the shooting on the show used a 2 foot and 4 foot models of the ship that couldn't separate.
Really? I think I've pretty much demonstrated that I do.
You, on the other hand... lol Whatever.
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'Nuf said. Back on topic.
Dump saucer separation. Engage the right Boff, console, and stat refit of the Galaxy X to what it should be, a dreadnought ship of war with command capabilities.
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My point, exactly.