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Battlecruiser doesn't come with Cloacking Device

lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
EDIT: To be clear, it DOES have cloaking device, but the console is 'sold separately' and if you want to use the cloaking device in your new brand battlecruiser, you'll have to purchase another ship along with it.


...you'll need to purchase a Defiant or a Galaxy-X to have it, in order to use cloacking device in the new ship.

Edit: Proof


Cryptic, if you want me to buy a ship with cloacking device, you'll provide it with the appropiate console from store.


OR,


If you want me to buy the Galaxy or the Defiant to fully enjoy the new ship, you'll need to pack the three of em in a bundle, not before fixing their awful boff layout, in both C-store and fleet version.


Thanks.

2nd Edit: It seems that this picture I've used as proof is from the fleet version, and that'd be reasonable as long as the C-Store version would give the cloack console... I'm too lazy to download Redshirt, so we're waiting for confirmation of the C-Store version comming with its correspondent Cloacking Device Console.

3rd: Confirmed that C-Store version DOESN'T come with the cloak device console.
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  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Doesn't matter have both.

    Console isn't reaslly worth it anyway....
    Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
    I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I think it may matter to people that dont have both of any...Edit: Also would like people to avoid the 'I suck... I mean pvp suck, I dont need cloacking to kill probes' narrative and see the complete scene. Finally the federation get's something nearly as good as the Scimitar (still would'nt be as good), and one of its key-additions to that similitude, cloacking capabilities, that would give us the opportunity to finally experiencing an good fed alpha-striker cruiser for the first time, comes with the requierement of you purchasing another (and crappy) ship...


    Guess Cryptic have finally heard Galaxy-X is not very appreciated by the community and that's a way to turn the sales up, instead of working on a galaxy overhaul...
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You are right.

    But the console is still only a basic cloak and not super effective. Plus it takes up a whole console slot.
    Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
    I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    But enough people have Defiants and/or Gal-Xs to really appreciate not unpacking yet another Cloaking Device!


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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I dont really understand the thread.

    I assume this is about the new avenger class coming out. Why would it have a cloaking device? the only fed ships that have them are the defiant and the gal x and that is only because the on screen version had them.

    second, these consoles are tier 5 and specific to their ship. you cant buy one and put it on the new ship.
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I dont really understand the thread.

    I assume this is about the new avenger class coming out. Why would it have a cloaking device? the only fed ships that have them are the defiant and the gal x and that is only because the on screen version had them.

    second, these consoles are tier 5 and specific to their ship. you cant buy one and put it on the new ship.

    Yes you can. And we knew about this ship some weeks ago preciselly because we knew from tibble we'd gonna get a battlecruiser with cloacking capabilities. The battlecruiser with cloacking device is here (well not yet, almost here), and if you want to use its cloacking device you need to purchase the cloacking console from the defiant or the galaxy-x in order use the new battlecruiser's cloacking capabilities.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lter wrote: »
    Yes you can. And we knew about this ship some weeks ago preciselly because we knew from tibble we'd gonna get a battlecruiser with cloacking device. The battlecruiser with cloacking device is here (well not yet, almost here), and if you want to use its cloacking device you need to purchase the cloacking console from the defiant or the galaxy-x in order use the cloacking device in the new battlecruiser.

    at the moment we dont know anything. the actual ship is not on tribble (unless ive really missed something) and you are using a tidbit of information that may or may not be accurate.

    remember the monbosh ship? came with a cloak. except it was never meant to have a cloak and got removed even after it went live. they screwed up, so until you see a blog or have one on holodeck we dont know what it will have.

    it is likely that the ship will not be able to use a cloak and the info is wrong, and if it does then it would then be likely that it would come with a cloak installed. i doubt they would give you the ability to use it without supplying one as that would be the first ship they have released that can cloak, without being able to do so from the moment you buy it.

    edit - because its an actual battlecruiser they probably copied over the default klingon ship type and not made the adjustment.
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    it is likely that the ship will not be able to use a cloak and the info is wrong, and if it does then it would then be likely that it would come with a cloak installed. i doubt they would give you the ability to use it without supplying one as that would be the first ship they have released that can cloak, without being able to do so from the moment you buy it.



    At this point doubting how money grabbing PWE is is kinda believing to much in the mankind :D


    Anyway, here you have.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    fair enough, i stand corrected.

    i'll still wait until its official.
  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lter wrote: »
    Anyway, here you have.

    You are looking at a fleet variant. Fleet ships do not come with consoles. You have to buy the c-store version to get the console.
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited October 2013
    At least they're making the Feddies pay extra to snatch a KDF concept. Doesn't really make me feel better, but w/e.

    This thing is basically a Fed variation on the Fleet Tor'kaht. Tor'kaht is at least allowed to remain slightly better in certain respects.

    I suppose it's kinda fair, really, since the Fleet Varanus is basically a KDF variation of a Federation science ship and doesn't quite match up to it.

    Just further proof factional differences are being done away with, bit by bit.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    robdmc wrote: »
    You are looking at a fleet variant. Fleet ships do not come with consoles. You have to buy the c-store version to get the console.

    It could be the c-store version has the cloak, and its just badly worded to suggest you can also get the cloak from the other two ships if you want.

    i think this is still a wait and see situation.
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well ok, we'll wait to see if the C-Store version (not the Fleet version) has it. Then I'll edit my original post to clarify.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Cloacking device are overrated for pve anyway. The ship looks really good even without one.
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  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    erei1 wrote: »
    Cloacking device are overrated for pve anyway. The ship looks really good even without one.

    Sure and I'd probably remove it from the ship if I'm gonna do some STFs but the 'anyways' arent the point I try to bring here, is the possibility of having a C-Store cloacking battlecruiser that requires you to purchase another ship -casually and usually disliked by the community that demands an overhaul for it-...
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    FFS people. it is a Cloakingconsole NOT A GORRAM CLOACKINGconsole!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
    I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Sorry my bad. Cloaking.
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    If you dont want to double up on battle cruisers, you could always get a Defiant for the cloaking device.

    This boff layout only allows the Avenger to DPS, and DPS only. Whereas the Gal-X still has enough Eng to switch between healing support and a A2B BFAWboat that has enough self-heals to survive making everything on the map angry.


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  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lter wrote: »
    Sorry my bad. Cloaking.

    Not singling you out at all my friend, it seems like everybody spells it that way and it finally just drove me nuts.
    Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
    I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Not singling you out at all my friend, it seems like everybody spells it that way and it finally just drove me nuts.

    Reminds me of the times I mispronounce L as R, causing all stealth ships to be equipped with croaking devices.


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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    khayuung wrote: »
    Reminds me of the times I mispronounce L as R, causing all stealth ships to be equipped with croaking devices.

    Heh, it's still better than the translation of the term in some games I played.
    The German version of X-Wing vs Tie Fighter translated "cloaking device" as "cloaca device", meanig the Emperor's shuttle had a functioning toiled but not a cloak.;)
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    khayuung wrote: »
    If you dont want to double up on battle cruisers, you could always get a Defiant for the cloaking device.

    This boff layout only allows the Avenger to DPS, and DPS only. Whereas the Gal-X still has enough Eng to switch between healing support and a A2B BFAWboat that has enough self-heals to survive making everything on the map angry.

    Problems with that: The Fleet version of the Defiant has less than desirable layout, worse for an Escort like that potential than the Galaxy layout for a Cruiser, or at pair... Secondly, that's personal, I'd have the Prometheus in my wish list first, and with that Battlecruiser I wouldnt minded acquiring both, but now... You see, lot of people has their own situation, forcing you to choose between purchasing a ship without its full potential or having to acquire another ship you may not want or you may dont have the money to buy toghether (or the time to farm for it...) is a lame movement by PWE.


    I hope Cryptic fix that.
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    khayuung wrote: »
    Reminds me of the times I mispronounce L as R, causing all stealth ships to be equipped with croaking devices.

    I hear you i fat finger the keyboard occasionally which is why i try my hardest not to assualt folks on mispelling and grammar.

    But the constant Cloacking consoles and devices just fried a nerve....
    Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
    I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I hear you i fat finger the keyboard occasionally which is why i try my hardest not to assualt folks on mispelling and grammar.

    But the constant Cloacking consoles and devices just fried a nerve....

    I hate TRIBBLE grammars, but when it comes to english native speakers correcting my poor english I find it a favour to me, not an insult ;)

    (Or non native that speaks english better than my, in any case)
  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It doesn't come with a cloak.

    And you expect me to cry?

    All I am crying about is that this had to be a fed ship. Fed now have two 5forwardweapon ships (or 4, if you count all different Andorians as different ships). The Romulans have one (or 3, if you count all Dreadnoughts as different ships).

    And where stays that Klingon Bird-of-Prey with 5 forward weapons????
  • captainkeatzcaptainkeatz Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Don't you get a free cloaking defiant as a 600 day vet perk?
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    pretty sure there will be a similar KDF ship coming soon...atleast i hope so
    Go pro or go home
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Don't you get a free cloaking defiant as a 600 day vet perk?

    Yes you can use the token on the Defiant-R. But some (like me) may have already used it on the Galaxy or Intrepid Retrofits. :(
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  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    It doesn't come with a cloak.

    And you expect me to cry?

    All I am crying about is that this had to be a fed ship. Fed now have two 5forwardweapon ships (or 4, if you count all different Andorians as different ships). The Romulans have one (or 3, if you count all Dreadnoughts as different ships).

    And where stays that Klingon Bird-of-Prey with 5 forward weapons????

    This should have been a Klingon battlecruiser for justice, indeed. But that's not the case so we have to get with what we have. A Fed ship that comes with cloak... but sold separately...
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    *Batteries not included.
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