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Fleet Defiant retrofit seems weak.
redz4tw
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So my fleet recommended that ship as I wanted to get more into PvP, but ships of the line are crushing me like I'm a ant, which is how it should be but super annoying as I spent 30 dollars to outfit the ship. My build is:
Fore Weapons: 3x Elite Fleet Mk XII Dual Heavy Tetyron Cannons, 1 quantum torpedo launcher Mk XII
Aft Weapons: 2x Quantum Topedo Launchers Mk XII, 1 Mk XI Tetyron Turret
Shield Array: Covariant Shield Array Mk XII [Cap]x2
Engineering Consoles: 3x Elite Fleet Neutronium Alloy
Science: Field Generators Mk XI
Tac: 4x Tetyron Pulse Generators, 1 Quantum Point Detonations or whatever boosts quantum damage.
Fore Weapons: 3x Elite Fleet Mk XII Dual Heavy Tetyron Cannons, 1 quantum torpedo launcher Mk XII
Aft Weapons: 2x Quantum Topedo Launchers Mk XII, 1 Mk XI Tetyron Turret
Shield Array: Covariant Shield Array Mk XII [Cap]x2
Engineering Consoles: 3x Elite Fleet Neutronium Alloy
Science: Field Generators Mk XI
Tac: 4x Tetyron Pulse Generators, 1 Quantum Point Detonations or whatever boosts quantum damage.
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What I would suggest first off is to give us more details on your setup, then go to the. PvP forum and checkout PvP bootcamp, and read Dontdrunkimshoots ship build thread.
Those two souces will give you a ton of information and base builds for putting together a pheominal ship. Also join the organized pvp and ask for some suggestions. I'll post a build when I am not on my phone later.
So I guess your boff arent well setted up, and maybe neither your doffs.
Edit: And also mind that your main source of resistance is your movement defense, aka evasion or avoidance, that's it, move and try to spec a little in skills like inertial dampers and some boff/doff set ups that can help you avoiding being hold.
Just because you "spent $30 to outfit the ship" does not mean you will be instantly successful in pvp
Gear in this game although important takes a back seat to skill which in itself can only be gained through practice practice practice practice and more practice
Second you need 5 energy boosting tactical consoles that's just a start
Third using torpedoes in pvp is an art form so as it looks like your a beginner I would switch in a dual beam bank and go with beam overload it's much easier to execute
Fourth as others have said we need to see your BOFF layout before we can go any further
Oh and just as a side note pvp in this game requires a lot of patience time and money if your not willing to utilise all 3 of these then continue queuing for cure
It's almost enough to make me go the Fleet Patrol Escort over it, but that ship is uglier than sin. But it has the boff setup the Defiant should have (or the Sabre as well, for the same reason) and it has the 10% shields mod that it definitely should have.
There is no reason for the Fleet Defiant to not have 10% extra shields when the Fleet Prommie gets it, as does the Fleet Dhelan - both of which are 5 tac console ships. Throw in a universal ensign and now you're cooking with gas.
The ship isn't on the top escorts for PvP list really, need a fleet that knows what they are doing maybe?
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The Tac Ens is only useless on an all DHC build.
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That will really help. I don't know squat about PvP, and I know enough that I'm waay too poor and stupid to be of use, so I stay away from it, but this will help others who do know what they are doing.
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I don't use an all DHC build, for that very reason. I just wish that the ensign slot was a uni or an eng because I want to squeeze in an ET1 in my build for those moments when I need an instant hull heal.
Fast forward to post LoR... yeah. It certainly wouldn't hurt to give it the 10% at this point.
Cmdr Tac: Tac team 1, Cannon Rapid Fire 1, Attack pattern Omega 1, Dispersal Pattern Beta 3
Lt Cmdr Tac: Tac Team 1, Target shields subsystems 2, Cannon Rapid Fire 2
Ensign Tac: Tac Team 1
Lt Engineering: Emergency Power To Shields 1, Extend Shields
Lt Science: Tachyon Beam 1, Tractor Beam
I didn't know DOFF's mattered...
why would you have a dispersal pattern with no mines? You also could use more attack patterns, and the science skills should be closer to Hazard Emitters and Science team or TSS, but in whatever order you think your ship needs more. The extend shields I might switch to engineering team too.
They can depending on how Mix/Max you want to make your build and exactly what your trying to accomplish with it.
He also has 3 Tac Teams and a Beam Target Subsystem power with no Beam Array. That's 3 BOff powers that literally cannot be used at all.
Sorry to say mate, but your build isn't good for either PvE or PvP. I'd recommend changing as follows:
Drop your aft Quantum Torps, you're never going to get them into play. Replace with Turrets. Escort play is all about keeping your opponent in front of you, so a 90 deg firing arc weapon on the back is a waste of a weapon.
If you really want to PvP, a Dual Beam Bank is a better option up front than a Torp, because you can run Beam Overload and don't have to wait for someone's facing shield to drop to hit them with a large damage spike.
BOff set-up should be something like:
Commander Tac: Tac Team 1, Cannon Rapid 1, Attack Pattern Omega 1, Cannon Rapid Fire 3
Lt. C Tac: Beam Overload 1, Attack Pattern Delta/Beta 1, Beam Overload 3
Ens Tac: Tac Team 1
You could use Scatter Volleys instead of Rapid Fires either, or maybe split to one of each, whatever suits. You could also run Beam Overload 1, Beam Overload 2, and a second Attack Pattern Omega on your Lt. C Tac. Never slot more than 2 Team powers because you can actually only use two on one ship because they have a shared cooldown.
Lt Engineer: As far as I can tell, Emergency Power to Engines is a must in PvP. Run one of those with an Emergency Power to Shields or a Reverse Shield Polarity (although that has a long cooldown). In PvE, you could run Emergency to Shields and an Aux to SIF for an extra bit of survivability.
Lt Sci: Hazard Emitters and either Polarize Hull (never higher than Polarize Hull 1) or Transfer Shield Strength. I'd normally pick Polarize Hull for PvP to avoid being tractor beamed, but if you run two APOs, you might get away without.
DOFFs don't matter a lot for PvE, but PvP they do. Better PvPers than me could advise you on those.
i don't get the "totally useless ens tac" yes it's better if it's eng or sci, but there is nothing wrong with a ts1 to clear tractor mines or the little extra to finish off a cripple
if you have access to the Regent torpedo, it's well worth the aft slot IMHO
I'd be a bit surprised if it was great on something that can put out the guts of 40 degrees/sec turn rate with [Turn] mods on the fleet consoles, but since I don't have it, I'll take your word.
That said, I don't imagine he has one because it's not already on his ship. I certainly wouldn't go and buy a Regent just get the torp to stick it on a Fleet Defiant.
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This is a good build. Perhaps the OP dosent know that he can train Boff Abilities at ESD.
This looks like the stock abilities that came with the officer.
As far as gear goes if you dont want to spend millions of EC, XII Blue and Purple Polaron Tac consoles are not that expensive and will have better Procs than Tetryon. As long as you have at least 6 skill points in Flow Cap.
Lots of PVP captians use the Borg XII Eng and Deflector with Elite Fleet Shields or XII MACO shields. Also the Plasmonic Leech and Assimilated Universal consoles are a must now days. Once you get the basics of surviving down you can then build a ship that maximised on Crit and ditch all the Armor and run the Tachyokentic Converter, Zero point, Assimilated console and get the Romulan Boffs that all boost crit and you will start dishing out serious spike damage.
As for DOFFs, on my Fleet Defiant I use officers to reduce Tactical Team cooldown, Cannon abilities, Evasive Maneuvers, etc.
I had three turrets and 3 DHC plus a torpedo for a salvo. But my torpedo is a bit... weak since I focused my traits on energy damage.
Tac
Cmdr. TT1 Crf 1 Beta II Omega III
Lt cmdr TT1 Crf 1. THY III
Ens BO
Engineer
Lt. EptS 1 EptS 2
Science
Lt PH 1 HE 2
Disruptors or polarized disruptor
2 DHC 1 DBB 1 Quantum
3 turrets
Get doff for shield penetration.
For PvE replace DBB with DHC and BO boff power with Torpedo volley. Replace one turret with kinetic cutting beam and get assimilated console.
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100% agree. If I didn't know better I'd say they gimped the Fleet Defiant on purpose to make everyone that flew the most iconic escort get whole new ships.... of course, tehy would NEVER do that right?
Tetryon is okay. It used to be the FOTM, but that baton has been passed to Plasmas and Disruptors.