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So about those last few canon ships
puttenham
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well... about a year ago, i remembered reading several devs commenting on how they wanted to get the rest of the canon ships they had on the board done and ingame.. so i went to sto wiki, where they have that nice, whats coming down the pipeline type page, and also link where it was said, and when, and blah blah blah...
well, a few months short of a year agao, we were told by two of the more important people, that would be stahl and gekko, that we could expect to see the niagra, freedom, and other ships in game within a years time.. well.. is this another open mouth insert foot for them (adding to the ever growing pile of stuff they say and doesnt happen).. or are intentions still to throw out the last 3 or 4 canon ships they had on the drawing board.. in some of the stuff i was reading, they were as far as starting to make models for some of them...
this isnt a give me my ship now thread, just a thread asking whats up.. are they on the way, are they delayed (like everything else in the game) are we not getting them, what?
i for one have been patiently waiting for the niagra.. been looking forward to that ship.. would like to see it ingame..
well, a few months short of a year agao, we were told by two of the more important people, that would be stahl and gekko, that we could expect to see the niagra, freedom, and other ships in game within a years time.. well.. is this another open mouth insert foot for them (adding to the ever growing pile of stuff they say and doesnt happen).. or are intentions still to throw out the last 3 or 4 canon ships they had on the drawing board.. in some of the stuff i was reading, they were as far as starting to make models for some of them...
this isnt a give me my ship now thread, just a thread asking whats up.. are they on the way, are they delayed (like everything else in the game) are we not getting them, what?
i for one have been patiently waiting for the niagra.. been looking forward to that ship.. would like to see it ingame..
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Aside from the various Kitbashes, I'm surprised they didn't add the Dauntless-class. Even though the original was an alien ship, the Federation obviously used the design during the Battle of Procyon.
Klingons still are missing:
Not to mention various Alien ships like Ferasan and Lethian designs.
Romulans are still missing:
Guess Cryptic assumed that players would just buy a K'T'inga during their leveling up and use the Gray Paintjob, but it's missing options for the Romulan Emblem and the Warbird.
Also would've been nice if we had the option for a Tier 5 version, where they were modernized with Singularity Cores.
Why their still is no K'Vort Class Bird of Prey in game yet is strange.
Edit: Klingons really need a Bird of Prey that has more then just 4 bridge officer slots and 6 weapons. Romulans have when why not Klingons?
My character Tsin'xing
well don tbe amazed, these ships have had a loyal calling in this game for some time.. i personally dont care if they are skin jobs, or a new ship (though i wouldnt mind a new ship for some of them, cause i know which ships they would be skin jobs for, and i dont like the layouts..)..
but.. even if they were destroyed on screen, there is plenty of models and pics of them before they were blown up.. and it doesnt mean they didnt exist.. not to mention, most other star trek games have been including them.. and last i checked, this was a star trek game, with probably alot of that fan base from past games here too..
all im saying is that they mentioned 4 ships, and mentioned a timeline for when we would see them.. and that time line is just about up.. and i havnt heard a peep about them..
but then again, this game shifted to wanna be romulans online.. if it isnt some sort of romulan thing, it isnt hitting the game anymore.. lol.. and i wouldnt be suprised, if the new content coming in season 8 revolves around the romulans somehow, and the fed and klinks are loosly involved.. (i know its the voth, but i can see cryptic somehow making their return more about the romulans than the feds somehow hahaha..).. even though they are from earth..
this has always boggled my mind... why hasnt cryptic released the other 2 pods for this class.. the pheonix sensor dish, and the long ger stardrive section, with the 2 aux. warp engines from best of both worlds.. and a model on a desk in star trek.. makes no sense.. kinda like there being no kvort class.. that was the primary ship in tng.. lol.. seen more than any other..
With Stahl recently hinting at they might be going through with the players assembling their own ships, maybe this would be best for the kitbashes.
Let players assemble their own kitbashed ships where some of the options are the canonical starships. You just have to own the C-store versions in order to unlock the pieces and you assemble it to how you like it. Certain pieces have certain characteristics that provides BOFF slots or console slots.
That way Cryptic could balance it with the main line of shipyard starships and the C-store starships.
I remember when they said the Nebula was coming and people were expecting those options.
Maybe if Jamz is reading this, he might add them to the ship tailor someday?
The one with the mini-nacelles was actually a somewhat different ship with a completely different secondary hull so I'm not sure it actually counts as a "pod" that can be mounted on a regular Neb.;)
My character Tsin'xing
Wouldn't mind having the studio model secondary hull as a variant added too.
Commanding Officer: Captain Pyotr Ramonovich Amosov
Dedication Plaque: "Nil Intentatum Reliquit"
sloppy writing in star trek.. no....... end sarcasm lol.. i mean its not like the steamrunner was supposed to be streamrunner or anything like that ghahaha..
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As for the KDF, I been wanting to see the K'Vort come out. I think that one will be killer. However please make it the accurate large size it needs to be. Since its not your regular small BOP. That being said. It can go either Tac or Eng since it can be big enough for both.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
Name: Minelayer Frigate, 'New Orleans' Class / Minelayer Frigate Retrofit, 2409 style vessel
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/neworleans.htm
Level: Commander (30) / Vice Admiral (50)
Hull: 20,000 / 32,000
Shield: .95
Turn: 13
Impulse: .22
Inertia: 60
Crew: 150
Weapons: 3 fore, 2 aft / 4 fore, 4 aft
Cannot Equip Dual Cannons
+10 weapon power, +10 engine power
Consoles:
Tactical: 4 / 5
Science: 1 / 2
Engineering: 1 / 2
Bridge Officers: Lt. Cmdr Tac, Lt. Eng, Ens. Sci, Ens Sci / Cmdr Tac, Lt. Cmdr Eng, Lt. Sci, Lt. Uni, Ens. Tac
Special Items:
Continuous Transphasic Mine Launcher Module (obtained via Minelayer Frigate, equip-able on all ships): Unique Mine Launcher, Can only be placed in aft weapon slots. When activated, deploys one transphasic mine every few seconds, max of 16 active at once.
Advanced Mine Deploy Mechanism (obtained via Minelayer Frigate Retro, only equip-able on Minlayer retro): Universal Console. Advanced Mine Disperal Pattern: Omega, deploys mines in 3 groups of 7 mines (lower numbers for special mine types). 2 min 30 second cooldown.
Set Bonus: Mine Targeting Computer Interlink: mines arm 50% faster once deployed and seek targets with 50% greater range.
Name: Defense Cruiser, 'Niagra' Class / Defense Cruiser Retrofit, 2409 style vessel
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/niagara.htm
Level: Commander (30) / Vice Admiral (50)
Hull: 26,000 / 42,000
Shield: 1.1
Turn: 7
Impulse: .15
Inertia: 25
Crew: 750
Weapons: 3 fore, 3 aft / 4 fore, 4 aft
Cannot Equip Dual Cannons
+5 all systems
Consoles:
Tactical: 2 / 3
Science: 2 / 3
Engineering: 2 / 3
Bridge Officers: Lt. Cmdr Eng, Lt. Tac, Lt. Sci, Ens. Uni / Cmdr Eng, Lt. Cmdr Tac, Lt. Cmdr Sci, Ens. Tac, Ens. Sci
Special Items:
Secondary Shield Projection System (obtained via Defense Cruiser, equip-able on all ships): Universal Console. Projects a second shield layer around an allied target, for 180 seconds or until your own shields are depleted. When the protected target takes shield damage, your shields absorb the damage instead of your ally. 5 minute cooldown.
Shield Emitter Recharge (obtained via Defense Cruiser Retro, only equip-able on Defense Cruiser retro): Universal Console. Shuts down and rapidly recharges your shield systems. Disables own shields for 10 seconds, duration scales with Aux power, but cannot be lowered to less than 6 seconds. Fully heals shields and pushes nearby enemies away. 3 min CD.
Set Bonus: Shield Charge Interlink: Drops own shields to recharge targeted ally's shields to full. Disables own shields for 10 seconds, duration scales with Aux power, but cannot be lowered to less than 6 seconds. 3 min CD, starts 30 second CD on Secondary Shield Projection and Shield Emitter Recharge.
Name: Surveillance Science Vessel, 'Springfield' Class / Surveillance Science Vessel Retrofit, 2409 era design
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/springfield.htm
Level: Commander (30) / Vice Admiral (50)
Hull: 18,000 / 27,000
Shield: 1.3
Turn: 13
Impulse: .2
Inertia: 45
Crew: 300
Weapons: 3 fore, 2 aft / 3 fore, 3 aft
Cannot Equip Dual Cannons
Sensor Analysis
Subsystem Targeting
+10 weapon power, +10 aux power
Consoles:
Tactical: 1 / 3
Science: 3 / 4
Engineering: 1 / 2
Bridge Officers: Lt. Cmdr Sci, Lt. Tac, Ens. Eng, Ens. Eng / Cmdr Sci, Lt. Cmdr Tac, Lt. Eng, Lt. Uni, Ens. Sci
Special Items:
Precision Focus Phaser Dual Beam Banks (obtained via Surveillance Science Vessel, equip-able on all ships): Unique dual beam bank weapon, can only be placed in fore weapon slots. Scaling, leveless weapon. Gains bonus accuracy based on Aux power level, no lower than +10% accuracy, no higher than +50% accuracy. Unlocks other energy types in Dilithium store, only one equipable at a time.
Deflector Resonance Generator (obtained via Surveillance SV retro, only equip-able on SSVR): Universal Console. Delfector Resonance Pulse, 5 second charge time, holds target for 5 seconds, deals extreme kinetic damage. -50 Aux power to self. 3 min CD.
Set Bonus: Resonance Particle Injectors: Adds secondary effects to Deflector Resonance Pulse based on first equiped torpedo weapon. Photon: +Knockback, Quantum: +crit chance, Plasma: plasma DoT, Transphasic: chance to bypass shields, Chroniton: slow effect to target, Tricobalt: chance to create rift, Hargh'peng: +radiation DoT.
Just tossing out some ideas.
At least with that parallel universe ship the devs wouldn't have any excuse to make it the ship with the least firepower. In fact that ship does have some significant differences to the prime universe GCS, like a much bigger Crew and maybe stronger weapons and shields (maybe in exchange for less science or engineering). So Cryptic could make it a real Battleship like GCS, similar to the moonbosh but since Cryptics devs seem to have a antipathy towards the Galaxy Class, i am afraid we will never see such a ship in STO.
Like you i am surprised that we don't have the Dauntless in STO, at least it would look a lot better than most of cryptics designs IMO. I think it would be a really cool addition to STO, Cryptics devs easily could find a excuseto introduce that ship if they wanted to.
For the various alien ships, i would love to have a first Federation, Fesarius type ship.
As for the other Federation canon ship types like the niagara or new orleans i am not very exited about them. Cryptic should rather implement some means to upgrade our ships on our own, by selling different Bridge modules (BOFF&Console Layout configurations) for already existing ships.
I find this interesting. When the Nebula was released many felt Cryptic 'dropped the ball' by not offering the variant mission pods (triangular, oval, warp nacelle) saying they could have been tac/eng/sci themed variants. Fast forward a little bit and we have seen this with the Odyssey, Bortasqu', Vesta and others. Strange that didn't hit me until now.
My character Tsin'xing
I would love to see the other variants. Maybe this is something that can be rehashed when the level cap increases. Would be nice to have a Nebula 3-pack, I've always liked that ship.