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sandormen123
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Considering how the lockbox has been turned from being a total spam-object, to nowadays, where there's multiple alternatives to choose from.
-Remember the olden days, when Ferengi boxes where littering the battlefields?
With the later addition of the opportunity of getting those 'mine for dilithium'- packs, lockboxes actually became meaningful for me.
On the other hand, the boxes (keys) are expensive, and I'd prefer to choose the 'right' box to open. -Where there is most bang for the buck.
Which box would You prefer to open? -and why?
Cheers.
-Remember the olden days, when Ferengi boxes where littering the battlefields?
With the later addition of the opportunity of getting those 'mine for dilithium'- packs, lockboxes actually became meaningful for me.
On the other hand, the boxes (keys) are expensive, and I'd prefer to choose the 'right' box to open. -Where there is most bang for the buck.
Which box would You prefer to open? -and why?
Cheers.
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And yes, I know I can just buy a game card with zen on it, but at the moment I don't have 20 bucks for the card.
Totally disagree, I have never spent any Real money on lock box keys, I mine Dil and exchange it for zen, so your point of paying too much is nulified!
Really all I got from the 10 i opened was doff packs. I was lucky I needed the doffs for the fleet starbase but useless as I could have sold the keys and bought more doffs
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I have no problem creating Dilithium>Zen>Keys.
It's not like I intend to open 100eds of lockboxes, all at once, either.
Thank You for the inputs.
I think I will have a closer look at them boxes which can potentially give me some purple doffs and or extra traits. -And yeah. I loathe those doff-packs with 4 White doffs. Completely useless stuff.
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Dominion -> Dilithium Claims (don't mind a Heavy Escort Drop)
Elachi -> Dilithium Claims
TalShiar ->Dilithium Claims
I don't open any of the other Boxes.
What most people are usually opening the boxes for are the ships which are usually just variations of what is already available by other means, as far as abilities, with a few very minor exceptions. If they were more than minor exceptions, the PvP people would be upset.
$1.25 per lockbox key is too expensive for a gamble, considering that money could have been put toward something in the C-Store. (For those of us that have not bought all the C-Store items already.)
Even on sale, it still too expensive. 12 to 40 keys would guarantee you a ship or ship pack, where it usually takes a lot more than that to get a lockbox ship. IMO, it's not worth it.
I am willing to justify having more space to store my gear, so I'll probably just finally get tired of storing the lockboxes I already have and put them on the Exchange, then let others buy keys and save up my EC to buy their stuff. (A lot longer now that the Tour has been nerfed.)
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but hey...feel free to open as many as "you" like.....it's keeping the game revenue flowing in order me to keep enjoying the game for free.
open 'em up people !
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Essentially they're lottery scratch tickets, nothing more.
When you open one you have a tiny chance of the grand prize, but will probably win something far less valuable.
There's no guarantee, just like a lottery ticket.
Without wishing to be rude, if people talked about lottery tickets in the way some talk of lockboxes they'd present as being foolish.
I can't argue that because I've bought a lot of scratch tickets I'm entitled to a jackpot, same with the lockboxes.
I have spent money on keys, last week in fact (it was my birthday and I badly wanted that ferengi space set). However, usually I just grind out dil and convert it to zen, or build up some EC and buy keys of the exchange.
And, as CGTA just implied, the proceeds from these keys help support the game.
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Sorry, but this is a poor and often posted analogy.
If I buy a scratch off, I MAY win something. If I buy a key and open a box, I WILL win something - now it may not be the grand prize, but you WILL win something.
In fact, you are gonna win multiple things - some quantity of Lobi and some other prize.
So, sorry, lockboxes are nothing like a lottery. Or a scratch off. Or even one of crane things that you can get a teddy bear out of.
If you want to make an analogy, compare it to those 25 cent capsule toy vendors at stores. Sure, you might want that really cool toy, but chances are when you open the capsule that all you got was a sticker. But, you DID get something.
Fair point.
Not a scratch card then, perhaps a kinder egg.
If you're opening it for a ship, and only for the ship, then you're gambling, and it is like a lottery ticket. If your motivation is the ship, and only the ship, and you couldn't care less about anything else, it's like buying a lottery ticket that comes with a 10% refund if you lose. You still lose, but you lose slightly less as you get back a small percentage of what you spent on the ticket.
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Yes, perfect example.
Not trying to call you out - but it frustrates me when people jump on the "lock boxes are a scam" train. They are a completely optional, money-making tool so that we can all enjoy playing this game either free or low-cost.
From the beginning, Cryptic has been open about what you get and that there would be a grand prize - and that not everyone would win. BUT, everyone would win something.
Since the first lock box, we have seen them continually add more things to it. Lobi. Doff packs. MU ships. Freighters. Special Doffs. Mining Rights. Consoles. Consumables. And the list grows with each new lockbox.
I guess I just don't get it. Growing up, I was never taught to believe that if I didn't win that somehow I was cheated, or that the game wasn't fair.
On the rare occasion that I go gamble or attempt a lottery, I do it for the fun. Not because I am banking on the grand prize.
Seems like we're on exactly the same page.
Sorry if I gave the impression of jumping on the scam train, I meant the opposite.
This Is how I ended up too.
Dominion boxes, due to the possibility of gaining pol-dis guns.
-After opening ten boxes, I got three dil-claim-boxes. the rest was pretty much sheit. (-including the two rommie mirrorships I got.
All in all i was happy :O) Oh. In I got a purple doff too. yayy.
Your points are well-taken, but there is a significant aspect of the lock boxes which do make them somewhat shady: specifically, Cryptic doesn't publish the odds of getting the grand prize (or anything else, for that matter), while at the same time trying to make people believe the odds are good by sending out system messages when a ship is won.
It is called marketing. It is a shady business, dependant of ones subejctiv ethical standing.
Trust me, I have heard radio advertisements from the US, that sounds like; If you are interested in adopting a child, call 555---etc. In the same speed as a 30 second pizza takeaway store-advertisement. So ask yourself. Do Cryptic do anything wrong, I'd say nah. Afterall, they don't try to sell babies as if was a take away pizza...
Neither do cereal boxes when they do promotions. I do a lot of work in promotions, and never have we EVER given odds of wining. Are they shady? Should they be met with disdain every time they do a promotion? Should we flock to their social media sites and call them scams?
If they did publish their rate, and let's say it's abysmally low. Then what? We raise it from .005% to .05%? .5? Maybe 1%? And further more, would that even stop people from complaining?
There are plenty of people who open godly numbers of boxes to formulate drop rates. Their numbers proved to me that it just wasn't worth the effort unless I want some extra lobi.
Wow...just...wow. There is so much fail in this ...
You should share the number. I have a few friends who have been waiting years to adopt. Maybe you can help them since it's apparently so easy and you are apparently very knowledgeable in things such as this.
:rolleyes:
I think they're a little better than a scratcher :P
Least with the boxes you get something back...like a dollar for a three dollar ticket but with scratchers you could get nothing at all!
Fail? how is it fail? Indulge me.
The US government actually make radio ads concerning different social... ...'things'...
the reason why I reacted was, just the advertisement telling people to consider children for adoption. -It is a fair thing to tell people of these Things, true, here in these countries, that would not happen during the morning coffee radio-mix and music. Escpecially not at that kind of speed-talk. -I don't say that adoption is a 'just-like-that'-thing. I am just trying to make an example of how weird Things can be expressed. In my countries, advertisements for babyadoption IS strange. Escpecially when it sound like a used car sale/pizza takeaway ad. No? You don't understand my perspective?
The point is not just that Cryptic hides the number, it's that they make the number seem higher than it is with the scrolling spam. This is done intentionally to deceive the user, and IMO, that's shady.