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The 5 stages of grief in STO PVP. A Horizon thread
thishorizon
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1. Denial and Isolation
In this first and possibly most impactful stage of grief, a pvpr just cannot accept how his or her play style or ship build could not have a positive impact in a pvp match. Their must be something inherently wrong with the system, they have all the gear and all the rep bonuses... Yet.... Their performance lacks compared to others. So they isolate themselves from the group, ever defensive of their choice in ship and powers... Rarely seeking out team play or advice from others.
2. Anger
In this stage the pvpr lashes out at the group, enraged at how it must be others that lead to his or her downfall. Which in turn leads to anger directed at the game developers, for not providing a system in which they could apply their skill set to the environment to achieve a positive result.
3. Bargaining
In this stage the pvpr racks his mind power to provide feedback to the group from his or her viewpoint. The abundance of this feedback coming from a narrow view of the entire spectrum of the game due to the limited time of being exposed to the grief process. If only we could change this power to do this... Or if the map were only set up like this or that, then my ship build would perform as I expected it to.
4. Depression
Realizing that their feedback is met with opposition or lack of response or change, the pvpr withdraws from the group, wondering how anyone ever performs and reflects on what they are doing wrong in the environment. Deep internal struggle ensues, and much self doubt follows...
5. Acceptance.
After and if the depression subsides, the pvpr will accept the environment in its current and constantly changing status. He or she will then open themselves up to suggestions about how to best perform given their play style and objectives in pvp. This stage for many will introduce a vast change in how they apply themselves to the environment, and for some but not all, will bring some solace to their steadfast yet underwhelming dedication. After all, it's trek they wish to play, and the group surrounding them holds the same passion.
Which stage of STO PVP grief are you currently in?
Have fun kill bad guys.
-thrusters on full-
In this first and possibly most impactful stage of grief, a pvpr just cannot accept how his or her play style or ship build could not have a positive impact in a pvp match. Their must be something inherently wrong with the system, they have all the gear and all the rep bonuses... Yet.... Their performance lacks compared to others. So they isolate themselves from the group, ever defensive of their choice in ship and powers... Rarely seeking out team play or advice from others.
2. Anger
In this stage the pvpr lashes out at the group, enraged at how it must be others that lead to his or her downfall. Which in turn leads to anger directed at the game developers, for not providing a system in which they could apply their skill set to the environment to achieve a positive result.
3. Bargaining
In this stage the pvpr racks his mind power to provide feedback to the group from his or her viewpoint. The abundance of this feedback coming from a narrow view of the entire spectrum of the game due to the limited time of being exposed to the grief process. If only we could change this power to do this... Or if the map were only set up like this or that, then my ship build would perform as I expected it to.
4. Depression
Realizing that their feedback is met with opposition or lack of response or change, the pvpr withdraws from the group, wondering how anyone ever performs and reflects on what they are doing wrong in the environment. Deep internal struggle ensues, and much self doubt follows...
5. Acceptance.
After and if the depression subsides, the pvpr will accept the environment in its current and constantly changing status. He or she will then open themselves up to suggestions about how to best perform given their play style and objectives in pvp. This stage for many will introduce a vast change in how they apply themselves to the environment, and for some but not all, will bring some solace to their steadfast yet underwhelming dedication. After all, it's trek they wish to play, and the group surrounding them holds the same passion.
Which stage of STO PVP grief are you currently in?
Have fun kill bad guys.
-thrusters on full-
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Well, I can see by this thread that you've completed your grief reputation grind. I'm still in tier 3. Any good passives I should know about?
Not looking forward to Tier 4
I hear the placate thing for escorts... The shield regen for most tho.
I'm afraid you might be able to advise me better on these topics.
HORIZON NUUUUUU!! WAKE UP!!! UR DREAMING!!!
He's talking about the five stages. Of death and dying. Oh wait, I mean PVP.
I'm in stage one. Deeply. I'm too pretty to die!!!:(
Um, thissy baby, yer too pretty to be in stage 1.
...
And I know you are hiding my favorite socks somewhere. Damn your hoarding ways.
Quite evident right drunk!!!!
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
Stage 7 myself.
Playing something completely unSTO orientated.
Id actually forgotten that repetitive grinding is reserved for these types of games. :rolleyes:
stage 1.
disdain and contempt are are what drive you to isolation, even if that isolation groups you with others who share the same feelings.
edit, yet possibly stage 4..... do you continue to play the game?
stage 5.
acceptance that this is not the environment for your play style. moving on to greener pastures for you would be natural.
Acceptance is for quitters. :P
Or the ones that know that they're in an abusive relationship and it's time to walk away.*
This should probably be mandatory reading for anyone wishing to play this game, or hell, anyone that has any interest in games what-so-ever.
*That's not directed at the sport of PvP, but at Cryptic's business decisions and general operating procedures.
Missing the good ol' days of PvP: Legacy of Romulus to Season 9
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nothing ever is what it is friend.
dig deeper.
listen.
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lolpvp.
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some of us still enjoy it friend,
lets just say we enjoy the challenge
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...then i must be in stage 1 and the reason u finally get fully into 4 :rolleyes:... just couldn't resist
Okay. I get that. Rise above our inherent aggression. Assert our reasoned benevolence. Laudable.
Oh... wait. It's just another example of tribal aggression and delusions of superiority.
If your post is anything like, "I have a sandwich so you can't be starving" it's time to rethink posting. ~thlaylierah
@your signature...
Wow, now that's about the best idea I've ever seen. Talk about balancing every ship class all at once. Imagine sci heavy cruisers and fleet science ships with commander tac stations. The possibilities are endless! please oh please do not give me examples of current things that are "kind-of" like that oh forum trolls It would be a completely different game, the kind I've been hoping for.
Likewise: STO would make a fortune off everyone doing this for almost every ship on every toon they own. Multiple times maybe.
If your post is anything like, "I have a sandwich so you can't be starving" it's time to rethink posting. ~thlaylierah
BTW - I do not like Thissler videos.
I could not agree more.
I blame key dev turnover and the iterative design with design by committee philosophy they seem to have. We tend to see two types of changes in STO. The first is typically merely a band aid such as the EPTS is too strong like just make them all too powerful or the Trico nerf them into the ground change. Other times they simply throw the baby out with the bathwater like the ESTF shoehorn into Rep system blunder that then received a few band aids. And yet they are going to remake them yet again from what they are saying in interviews and want to abandon/remake the reputation systems for the new one in season 8. Blah. And yes I know my little tirade has little to do with your quoted post other than the agreeing part